2012 list management.

Iva Bigun · Oct 30, 2012

This may of already been mentioned but what do we think of Ricky Pettard, Qld boy now free to pick up in the pre season draft, 24yo and 185cm / 85 Kg.

he is a goal kicker and we know we need one of those.

Sunny_ · Oct 30, 2012

Lack of height is a bit of a concern. Medium forward? Ideally I think we want Danny Stanley to play this position for us next year. With Murphy and Broughton on board, his days in defence are over.

I'm all for getting QLD players back home, but not just because they're QLD born. Still have to meet a need. As it is, Sub 190cm forwards we're pretty fine on, I think?

SandyToes · Oct 30, 2012

I admit to being poorly educated on the whole draft/trade/list thing, but can anyone tell me if we
a)are
b)should be
compensated for not being able to place players on the veteran list given we haven't existed for 10 years
Seems unfair, but that's from a novice perspective
I believe Port gets to veteran list players discounted to the normal 10 years , but not sure how that works

Hinkleyfan · Oct 30, 2012

SandyToes said:
I admit to being poorly educated on the whole draft/trade/list thing, but can anyone tell me if we
a)are
b)should be
compensated for not being able to place players on the veteran list given we haven't existed for 10 years
Seems unfair, but that's from a novice perspective
I believe Port gets to veteran list players discounted to the normal 10 years , but not sure how that works

No, wait the 10 years. Also weve been compensated enough I would have thought...

SUNS · Oct 30, 2012

Michael Osborne just delisted by the Hawks. 30 years old, great quality inside midfielder. Could be okay for a 2 year contract until we develop some of our other kids into the role?

Too old?

exile · Oct 30, 2012

Knee injury will set him back midway through next season. Gold Coaster, from my High School actually. I reckon he'll play local club footy back up here, dunno if he'll go around again.

Scotty_222 · Oct 30, 2012

he will be offered a new contract with hawthorn..
probably on the rookie list or veteran list..

Dammit · Oct 31, 2012

SUNS said:
Michael Osborne just delisted by the Hawks. 30 years old, great quality inside midfielder. Could be okay for a 2 year contract until we develop some of our other kids into the role?

Too old?

Cannot play the game.

WrongUn · Oct 31, 2012

Just realised we cant delist Toy as we offered him a new 1yr extension. Instead he will delist himself from the club when he nominates for the ND draft as a non-contracted listed player by November 13th, and he then will be removed from our list for list lodgement 2 on the 15th November... well I think that's how it works anyway.

SUNS · Oct 31, 2012

I don't know how correct that is. Reason being I know of at least one player last season who in 2011 was offered a one year extension, refused it (albeit early in the season) and then at end of year was delisted.

Surely a contract means nothing until all parties have signed?

Hinkleyfan · Oct 31, 2012

SUNS said:
I don't know how correct that is. Reason being I know of at least one player last season who in 2011 was offered a one year extension, refused it (albeit early in the season) and then at end of year was delisted.

Surely a contract means nothing until all parties have signed?

That's different, he refused it, it's not still on the table...Marc Lock? He was a hopeless player, a joke he captained our vfl team as a teenager.

Sunny_ · Oct 31, 2012

I think WrongUn might be on the money. Or at least that's how my understanding of it works.

Scotty_222 · Oct 31, 2012

Hinkleyfan said:
That's different, he refused it, it's not still on the table...Marc Lock? He was a hopeless player, a joke he captained our vfl team as a teenager.

he wasnt that bad.. just had attitude issues

Slattery_20 · Oct 31, 2012

SUNS said:
I don't know how correct that is. Reason being I know of at least one player last season who in 2011 was offered a one year extension, refused it (albeit early in the season) and then at end of year was delisted.

Surely a contract means nothing until all parties have signed?

I think we're talking about the specifics of being delisted vs walking away.
There have been other guys offered a contract at one point, then had that offer withdrawn.
Tom Hislop was one, at Essendon. Basically sacked after he played up one night in the off-season.

If there is no contract offered when you're actually coming out of contract... you're delisted.
If the club still want you to sign the contract, you've walked out - although I assume they can choose to give their blessing, and take their offer off the table, so he can qualify to sign as a delisted FA and have more freedom.

It will be interesting to see whether GC do that or not.

Slattery_20 · Oct 31, 2012

SUNS said:
Michael Osborne just delisted by the Hawks. 30 years old, great quality inside midfielder. Could be okay for a 2 year contract until we develop some of our other kids into the role?

Too old?

30 with a bung knee. Not really an inside midfielder, more a high marking medium forward, and I'm not sure how his leap will recover from that injury.

Sunny_ · Oct 31, 2012

Toy officially delisted. Will not be offered a new contract next year.

SC_GC · Oct 31, 2012

Such a fall from grace, from a highly rated prospect a couple of years ago to being delisted. Would like for him to get picked up but his heart condition is probably going to hamper his chances.

Scotty_222 · Oct 31, 2012

whats the deal with tomorrow, do you reckon we will pick up some players for our rookie list quick as we can and ship em over to arizona so they get the benefits or will we wait till rookie and preseason drafts to pick them up

TheSunGod · Oct 31, 2012

With Toy now de-listed can someone please tell me how many picks we have in the National Draft? I thought with picking up Murphy and Broughton, upgrading Horsley and needing a spot for Jaeger that leaves us with just one, but someone posted on the D&T Board we're going to have two - I is confused

Does this also mean we're going to pass on Andrew Boston? Shame we couldn't trade him for a pick.

Sunny_ · Oct 31, 2012

We've activated Clay Cameron as a QLD Zone Selection and upgraded Horsley. When we use pick #13 in the ND, that will make our three compulsory picks. We won't use any more than that.

So you're right (I'm pretty sure) that we will only be using pick #13 on the ND.

Taylor Hine is also still on the list. Has not been removed from the list yet.

TheSunGod · Oct 31, 2012

Sunny_ said:
We've activated Clay Cameron as a QLD Zone Selection and upgraded Horsley. When we use pick #13 in the ND, that will make our three compulsory picks. We won't use any more than that.

So you're right (I'm pretty sure) that we will only be using pick #13 on the ND.

Taylor Hine is also still on the list. Has not been removed from the list yet.

Thanks Sunny.

Happy we've still got Hine - hope he decides to stay with us next season and beyond. I like how he has a dip - just needs to work on his disposal.

Turbocat · Oct 31, 2012

So , no action on Bourke?

Sunny_ · Oct 31, 2012

Turbocat said:
So , no action on Bourke?

Nope.

Turbocat · Oct 31, 2012

Sunny_ said:
Nope.

Something a little smelly? He did well at DC.

WrongUn · Oct 31, 2012

"The final Gold Coast delisting (Toy) before Wednesday's first list lodgment ensured Taylor Hine would remain at the club after he was also subject to recent trade speculation."

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/def...eed:+com/bGgr+(AFL+Latest+News+and+Broadband)

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