List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Discussion

[Wizard17]

He's at serious risk of becoming a cult figure with a name like that!

there are a couple with names like that. Imagine the amount of puns that could be made with guys with names like McLaren, Ferrari, Grace and Goodyear.

 

[fronkalicious]

Donkersley surely the best name in the draft this year?

 

[Wizard17]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-31/draft-prospect-runs-amok-in-win-over-wa

Metro ran amok and led at every change, with Eastern Ranges' Petracca collecting 27 disposals and booting 2.1 in his first game of the championships.

The powerful and tough 186cm midfielder/forward has been touted as a first-round prospect at this year's NAB AFL Draft.

Calder's Damien Cavka boosted his draft prospects with a best-on-ground performance for Metro.

The 184cm Cannon gathered 22 touches, kicked a goal and laid seven tackles and is sure to have recruiters talking.

His TAC Cup teammate Paul Ahern also ran rampant through the midfield with 23 touches – including 12 contested – and two majors.

Ahern's pace and ball-use lit up Medibank Stadium and helped set up the massive win.

Western Jets left-footer Corey Ellis (21 disposals, 6 inside 50s), Calder's Touk Miller (22 disposals, eight tackles) and Tom Wilkinson (30 disposals, six clearances) also impressed.

Top midfield prospect Angus Brayshaw improved after a quiet first half to finish with 15 disposals.

Two 190cm backmen – Sandringham's Edward Vickers-Willis and Northern Knights' Kyle Langford - were brick walls in defence for Metro.

 

[GrandBlue]

Pace disadvantage coming through again with Stephen Hill & Danyle Pearce cutting us up, whereas we have Tutt & Wood, two players who just smash the ball on their foot when kicking.

Is it the sole reason we're losing now? No, but we're still conceding a big disadvantage without any quality linebreakers.

 

[Dale4captain]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-01/sa-wins-at-a-stretch-over-vic-country

"SA's 197cm ruckman Sam Durdin continued to show promising signs in his comeback from thumb surgery, regaining some touch and kicking a goal."

FFS, why are they playing him in the ruck??

 

[Dav1d]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-01/sa-wins-at-a-stretch-over-vic-country

"SA's 197cm ruckman Sam Durdin continued to show promising signs in his comeback from thumb surgery, regaining some touch and kicking a goal."

FFS, why are they playing him in the ruck??

That is exactly what I've said

Him and Wright, they both have options to play some other rucks but choose to play those two highly rated forwards through the ruck

He says that he is more comfortable down in defense though

 

[Dale4captain]

That is exactly what I've said

Him and Wright, they both have options to play some other rucks but choose to play those two highly rated forwards through the ruck

He says that he is more comfortable down in defense though

Yeah, looked fantastic as the key defender for them, yet they put him in the dumbest positions ever. Doesn't phase me massively, maybe it'll turn a few off him and he could fall to our pick? If played at CHB/CHF he'd be a certain top 2 pick.

 

[Wizard17]

It could be handy to pick up a player that we know can kick goals from beyond fifty. I know most of these will be around the second round though I think there is one that hopefully will go as a rookie, and before you ask Dav1d, no he doesn't play for the Jets . He is a Cannon. I'll see if I can find the article I was reading earlier today.

 

[Igloo]

It could be handy to pick up a player that we know can kick goals from beyond fifty. I know most of these will be around the second round though I think there is one that hopefully will go as a rookie, and before you ask Dav1d, no he doesn't play for the Jets . He is a Cannon. I'll see if I can find the article I was reading earlier today.

Blonde guy? Maybe number 27? Or 3? In any case, I saw some blonde guy from the Cannons kick a goal from outside 50 at the game I went to

 

[Wizard17]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...bendigo-pioneers/story-fngnvocb-1226931483595

Kerbatieh slotted five goals in his fourth game of the 2014 TAC Cup season as the Cannons won 14.10 (94) to 9.13 (67) at Highgate Reserve.

“Once he’s got in, he hasn’t missed (a game),” Calder coach Andrew Jago said.

“A lot of that was to do with his defensive workrate and his fitness levels, Hish understands that.

“He did a lot of work with our strength and conditioning coach to get his levels up to where we thought we could insert him into the game.

“He’s play in the midfield in almost every game he’s played.”

Jago said Kerbatieh’s clearance numbers were as impressive as anyone of the Cannons’ list.

He said Kerbatieh’s natural football talents were unquestionable.

“Now it’s just genuinely learning the work ethic required at the higher levels, which in his defence he certainly is,” he said.

“He sees the ball as fast as anybody, reads the ball as well as anybody and is a penetrating kick off limited steps.

“He kicks the ball as far as anyone who we’ve got apart from Peter Wright who is just a natural kick of the football.”

Came across this after I noticed his name popping up more and more often. it is from his last game where he kicked 5, but in all seriousness the way that he is described here he sounds like someone Macca would like.

 

[Dav1d]

Ricky Nixon says AFL recruiters pick ‘robots’ on draft day.
mitchellguy2 Leave a comment
The days of characters in AFL football are gone, according to former AFL player agent, Ricky Nixon.

Sandringham’s Angus Brayshaw is one of the many draft prospects vying for a spot on an AFL list.

He said recruiters are picking ‘robots’ to play AFL football.

“There will be kids playing who are not getting picked to play TAC Cup because they have a reputation of being a little bit silly with drinking or what not,” Nixon said. “It shouldn’t be like that.”

85 draft picks were used in the 2013 National Draft, which includes rookie elevations and picking players from other clubs.

Every year, young footballer’s hopes and dreams of an AFL career are in the hands of recruiters from the 18 clubs.

Director of The Mad Monday Show website, Justin Bertuleit, said the job of an AFL recruiter could often be a difficult one.

“I watch the TAC Cup every week and it surprises me that some players are overlooked on draft day,” he said.

“Different recruiters have different opinions of players which is what makes it so interesting.”

Nixon said projecting ahead is not an easy task for recruiters, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll take the safe option.

“If a player has a checkered background, they’ll go with the kid who is a straight A student at school,” he said.

“They’ll go with the safer option because they are in self protection mode for themselves and they want to protect the clubs interest as well.”

The days of picking a player who solely impresses on the footy field are now gone.

Nixon said the draft process has become ‘quite extensive’.

“10 years ago it was pretty simple, and that was the ability to play,” he said.

“Now it really revolves around what makes them tick.”

The recruitment process is constantly evolving, but the football talents of players remain a huge factor.

Nixon said that players have to be skilful and speedy to be noticed by recruiters.

“Athleticism and kicking are the two number one priorities now for footy clubs,” he said.

“Unless you can run quickly and for a long time, or you’ve got the power speed, then you’re just not going to get looked at.”

The past 10 years has seen AFL clubs think outside the square and recruit players who show great athleticism.

According to Nixon, clubs like Geelong will ‘pick a footballer over an athlete’.

“Other clubs have gone down the athleticism track, much to their detriment,” he said.

“Unless you’ve grown up on the game it’s a very difficult game to play and understand.”

Psychological testing is now an important part of the draft process for AFL clubs.

Nixon said he is not a big believer in psychological testing, although clubs would argue that they are.

“The trouble with psychological testing is it doesn’t take into consideration maturation rates and some people will grow up over night and some people can take ten years to grow up,” he said.

Every year, AFL clubs are shifting their focus in draft strategy to account for trends in the evolution of the game.

Clubs are now targeting a particular type of player, with the view that it may improve their club.

Nixon said Collingwood has recently targeted players with ‘big bums’, because they thought they were powerful players.

“Power players is what the game’s all about now,” he said.

“Have a look at Dane Swan, have a look at Jamie Elliot, they’re lower to the ground type players with power.”



Interesting article on http://madmondayshow.com/news-feed/page/2/ and how he mentions Geelong and how they like to take natural footballers over athletes, seems to me a mix of natural footballers and athletic types would be a good idea, especially if we're to compete with the faster and hard running teams...

 

[DylanW]

We've got a few father son picks this year right? Just thinking if this is the case might be worthwhile to trade all our picks to fill a need in the list and just leave ourselves with very late picks to grab our FS selections. Is this allowed?

 

[fronkalicious]

We've got a few father son picks this year right? Just thinking if this is the case might be worthwhile to trade all our picks to fill a need in the list and just leave ourselves with very late picks to grab our FS selections. Is this allowed?

No

 

[Cudi]

We've got a few father son picks this year right? Just thinking if this is the case might be worthwhile to trade all our picks to fill a need in the list and just leave ourselves with very late picks to grab our FS selections. Is this allowed?

You nominate father-son selections before the trade period.

 

[VitalDread]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-01/sa-wins-at-a-stretch-over-vic-country

"SA's 197cm ruckman Sam Durdin continued to show promising signs in his comeback from thumb surgery, regaining some touch and kicking a goal."

FFS, why are they playing him in the ruck??

So crows or port can take him

 

[Zgope1]

no reports on Zaine for the weekend? missed again did he?

 

[Dav1d]

no reports on Zaine for the weekend? missed again did he?

no he played, must not have had a huge impact though
but remember he is coming off bit of a niggle and the Vic teams are trying to rotate the talent in between their TAC games

I hope this is why McCartin wasn't playing for Country as well, because Metro and Country dropped a few good players each

 

[VitalDread]

no reports on Zaine for the weekend? missed again did he?

Think he still out with a groin problem

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Ricky Nixon says AFL recruiters pick ‘robots’ on draft day.
mitchellguy2 Leave a comment
The days of characters in AFL football are gone, according to former AFL player agent, Ricky Nixon.

Sandringham’s Angus Brayshaw is one of the many draft prospects vying for a spot on an AFL list.

He said recruiters are picking ‘robots’ to play AFL football.

“There will be kids playing who are not getting picked to play TAC Cup because they have a reputation of being a little bit silly with drinking or what not,” Nixon said. “It shouldn’t be like that.”

85 draft picks were used in the 2013 National Draft, which includes rookie elevations and picking players from other clubs.

Every year, young footballer’s hopes and dreams of an AFL career are in the hands of recruiters from the 18 clubs.

Director of The Mad Monday Show website, Justin Bertuleit, said the job of an AFL recruiter could often be a difficult one.

“I watch the TAC Cup every week and it surprises me that some players are overlooked on draft day,” he said.

“Different recruiters have different opinions of players which is what makes it so interesting.”

Nixon said projecting ahead is not an easy task for recruiters, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll take the safe option.

“If a player has a checkered background, they’ll go with the kid who is a straight A student at school,” he said.

“They’ll go with the safer option because they are in self protection mode for themselves and they want to protect the clubs interest as well.”

The days of picking a player who solely impresses on the footy field are now gone.

Nixon said the draft process has become ‘quite extensive’.

“10 years ago it was pretty simple, and that was the ability to play,” he said.

“Now it really revolves around what makes them tick.”

The recruitment process is constantly evolving, but the football talents of players remain a huge factor.

Nixon said that players have to be skilful and speedy to be noticed by recruiters.

“Athleticism and kicking are the two number one priorities now for footy clubs,” he said.

“Unless you can run quickly and for a long time, or you’ve got the power speed, then you’re just not going to get looked at.”

The past 10 years has seen AFL clubs think outside the square and recruit players who show great athleticism.

According to Nixon, clubs like Geelong will ‘pick a footballer over an athlete’.

“Other clubs have gone down the athleticism track, much to their detriment,” he said.

“Unless you’ve grown up on the game it’s a very difficult game to play and understand.”

Psychological testing is now an important part of the draft process for AFL clubs.

Nixon said he is not a big believer in psychological testing, although clubs would argue that they are.

“The trouble with psychological testing is it doesn’t take into consideration maturation rates and some people will grow up over night and some people can take ten years to grow up,” he said.

Every year, AFL clubs are shifting their focus in draft strategy to account for trends in the evolution of the game.

Clubs are now targeting a particular type of player, with the view that it may improve their club.

Nixon said Collingwood has recently targeted players with ‘big bums’, because they thought they were powerful players.

“Power players is what the game’s all about now,” he said.

“Have a look at Dane Swan, have a look at Jamie Elliot, they’re lower to the ground type players with power.”



Interesting article on http://madmondayshow.com/news-feed/page/2/ and how he mentions Geelong and how they like to take natural footballers over athletes, seems to me a mix of natural footballers and athletic types would be a good idea, especially if we're to compete with the faster and hard running teams...

And don't forget we also need Big Bum players

 

[Dav1d]

And don't forget we also need Big Bum players

we shouldn't have delisted Markovic then....

 

[Mutt]

Ricky Nixon says AFL recruiters pick ‘robots’ on draft day.
mitchellguy2 Leave a comment
The days of characters in AFL football are gone, according to former AFL player agent, Ricky Nixon.

Sandringham’s Angus Brayshaw is one of the many draft prospects vying for a spot on an AFL list.

He said recruiters are picking ‘robots’ to play AFL football.

“There will be kids playing who are not getting picked to play TAC Cup because they have a reputation of being a little bit silly with drinking or what not,” Nixon said. “It shouldn’t be like that.”

85 draft picks were used in the 2013 National Draft, which includes rookie elevations and picking players from other clubs.

Every year, young footballer’s hopes and dreams of an AFL career are in the hands of recruiters from the 18 clubs.

Director of The Mad Monday Show website, Justin Bertuleit, said the job of an AFL recruiter could often be a difficult one.

“I watch the TAC Cup every week and it surprises me that some players are overlooked on draft day,” he said.

“Different recruiters have different opinions of players which is what makes it so interesting.”

Nixon said projecting ahead is not an easy task for recruiters, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll take the safe option.

“If a player has a checkered background, they’ll go with the kid who is a straight A student at school,” he said.

“They’ll go with the safer option because they are in self protection mode for themselves and they want to protect the clubs interest as well.”

The days of picking a player who solely impresses on the footy field are now gone.

Nixon said the draft process has become ‘quite extensive’.

“10 years ago it was pretty simple, and that was the ability to play,” he said.

“Now it really revolves around what makes them tick.”

The recruitment process is constantly evolving, but the football talents of players remain a huge factor.

Nixon said that players have to be skilful and speedy to be noticed by recruiters.

“Athleticism and kicking are the two number one priorities now for footy clubs,” he said.

“Unless you can run quickly and for a long time, or you’ve got the power speed, then you’re just not going to get looked at.”

The past 10 years has seen AFL clubs think outside the square and recruit players who show great athleticism.

According to Nixon, clubs like Geelong will ‘pick a footballer over an athlete’.

“Other clubs have gone down the athleticism track, much to their detriment,” he said.

“Unless you’ve grown up on the game it’s a very difficult game to play and understand.”

Psychological testing is now an important part of the draft process for AFL clubs.

Nixon said he is not a big believer in psychological testing, although clubs would argue that they are.

“The trouble with psychological testing is it doesn’t take into consideration maturation rates and some people will grow up over night and some people can take ten years to grow up,” he said.

Every year, AFL clubs are shifting their focus in draft strategy to account for trends in the evolution of the game.

Clubs are now targeting a particular type of player, with the view that it may improve their club.

Nixon said Collingwood has recently targeted players with ‘big bums’, because they thought they were powerful players.

“Power players is what the game’s all about now,” he said.

“Have a look at Dane Swan, have a look at Jamie Elliot, they’re lower to the ground type players with power.”



Interesting article on http://madmondayshow.com/news-feed/page/2/ and how he mentions Geelong and how they like to take natural footballers over athletes, seems to me a mix of natural footballers and athletic types would be a good idea, especially if we're to compete with the faster and hard running teams...

If one was cynical, one could assume 'shit bloke advocates the drafting of more shit blokes.'

 

[Dav1d]

If one was cynical, one could assume 'shit bloke advocates the drafting of more shit blokes.'

I see what you're saying but I think it'd be unfair if our club was writing players off because they didn't think the player was as mature as they'd like, when they could mature with time and I hope they aren't avoiding highly talented players because of this; unless of course you're as bad as Dayle Garlett was (boy I'm glad we steered clear of him)

 

[Mutt]

I see what you're saying but I think it'd be unfair if our club was writing players off because they didn't think the player was as mature as they'd like, when they could mature with time and I hope they aren't avoiding highly talented players because of this; unless of course you're as bad as Dayle Garlett was (boy I'm glad we steered clear of him)

But isn't Dayle Garlett the poster boy for what Nixon is advocating? Or is it Toby Greene?

 

[Dav1d]

But isn't Dayle Garlett the poster boy for what Nixon is advocating? Or is it Toby Greene?

No

He is meaning, example; someone that dropped out of school to focus on football vs someone that got graduated top of their class

the drop out has better football ability, but the graduate who isn't as good seems more mature
so the clubs take the player they believe to be more mature, even though the other probably takes his football as serious if not more

Dayle Garlett got high the night before he was supposed to train with Essendon and posted the pictures up on social media
hardly sounds like someone who takes his football serious ha

 

[Mutt]

No

He is meaning, example; someone that dropped out of school to focus on football vs someone that got graduated top of their class

the drop out has better football ability, but the graduate who isn't as good seems more mature
so the clubs take the player they believe to be more mature, even though the other probably takes his football as serious if not more

Dayle Garlett got high the night before he was supposed to train with Essendon and posted the pictures up on social media
hardly sounds like someone who takes his football serious ha

I think that you and I are just illustrating that acceptable 'character' is all in the eye of the beholder. I'll bet that Jake Stringer didn't get straight A's in Year 12 but his character was outstanding in so many other ways.