Draft Review 2014 - Redo the 2014 AFL Draft

[Virgin Dog]

List the inside mids at WCE, Ess, Cats & Dogs.

I can do this for the Dogs.

Libba, Wallis, Dunkley, McLean, Macrae (plays in and out, mostly mid this year and topped our clearances), Bontempelli

Plus we just drafted Bailey Smith and Rhylee West.

Ahern wouldn't get a game at the Dogs as an inside mid, but might do at Essendon from that list

 

[Prochard123]

List the inside mids at WCE, Ess, Cats & Dogs.

Boy you north supporters are stubborn

Note, I said 3-5 ROTATING through inside mid, not all of to be your cripps/fyfe/oliver types. Since well you know... There're only 3 spots available at a time...Will list 5 just to convince you even if it's unnecessary

Essendon:
Heppell
Smith
Merrett
Shiel
Zaharakis

(Myers, Langford)

Geelong:
Dangerfield
Selwood
Ablett
Duncan
Kelly

(Menegola, S Selwood)

West Coast:
Shuey
Redden
Yeo
Gaff
Sheed

Western Bulldogs:
Bontempelli
Macrae
Hunter
Liberatore
Dunkley

(Wallis, Mclean)

If you really wanted to challenge the list you should've asked for GWS, which I thought was a little shaky and all. But you ended up asking about some of the most stacked midfields...

Note that 90% of players above are conclusively better than Ahern in terms of both inside ability but also their versatility. Even hypothetically speaking Ahern narrowly edges out some of these players in terms of clearance/CP count it doesn't mean Ahern would be picked in their best 22 unless he ranks top 3 in the midfield to demand a regular spot rather than a rotation.

 

[Prochard123]

I can do this for the Dogs.

Libba, Wallis, Dunkley, McLean, Macrae (plays in and out, mostly mid this year and topped our clearances), Bontempelli

Plus we just drafted Bailey Smith and Rhylee West.

Ahern wouldn't get a game at the Dogs as an inside mid, but might do at Essendon from that list

This... Especially WBD who I consider to have a top 5 midfield in the comp. Ahern could be down to 7th/8th best mid at the dogs which wasn't even a finals team in 2018 (Although I think their upside is extremely high).

 

[Wild Bill]

Boy you norf supporters are stubborn

Note, I said 3-5 ROTATING through inside mid, not all of to be your cripps/fyfe/oliver types. Since well you know... There're only 3 spots available at a time...Will list 5 just to convince you even if it's unnecessary

Essendon:
Heppell
Smith
Merrett
Shiel
Zaharakis

(Myers, Langford)

Geelong:
Dangerfield
Selwood
Ablett
Duncan
Kelly

(Menegola, S Selwood)

West Coast:
Shuey
Redden
Yeo
Gaff
Sheed

Western Bulldogs:
Bontempelli
Macrae
Hunter
Liberatore
Dunkley

(Wallis, Mclean)

If you really wanted to challenge the list you should've asked for GWS, which I thought was a little shaky and all. But you ended up asking about some of the most stacked midfields...

Note that 90% of players above are conclusively better than Ahern in terms of both inside ability but also their versatility. Even hypothetically speaking Ahern narrowly edges out some of these players in terms of clearance/CP count it doesn't mean Ahern would be picked in their best 22 unless he ranks top 3 in the midfield to demand a regular spot rather than a rotation.

So you just listed teams best mids?

How would a player like Sier go getting a game for these clubs?

 

[Prochard123]

So you just listed teams best mids?

How would a player like Sier go getting a game for these clubs?

As expected, all that explanation catered just for you useless lol.

I'm guessing you can understand why Ahern wouldn't even be close to getting a game at the Cats or the Dogs, so let's look at West Coast and Essendon..

Shuey, Yeo and Redden play inside mid and rarely rotates through other positions when they have Gaff. Redden only plays a bit more outside when Gaff was suspended. Those 3 alone are already quite formidable and really don't need much help except for a couple of minutes resting on the bench, which is when Gaff comes from a wing and fill in for whichever of the 3 that needs a rest. This is exactly why Gaff averages close to 4 clearance a game (Which is more than Ahern despite substantially less time at contests btw...). Then, with the absolute emergence of Sheed, who really has become an exceptional big game player, it is likely that even players like Shuey/Yeo/Redden will receive reduced midfield minutes just to fit in Sheed and someone like Ahern probably wouldn't even be in the conversation. They also have a defensive player in Hutchings to play inside mid to tag someone like Fyfe or play wing to tag someone like Sidebottom.

Essendon. In 2018, they had Heppell, Merrett and Smith all with inside mid being their best position. Zaharakis played on a wing, and when Myers/Langford rotated to inside mid one of their primary trio moves to the wing. It wasn't the flashiest midfield, but was solid nonetheless.
Now, in 2019, they have their new recruit in Shiel, who will be their primary clearance player and possibly push Smith to the forward line more often to accomodate for Shiel's midfield minutes. Essendon seems to have high expectations of Langford as an inside mid so if they want to give him some chances in there as well from time to time on top of Shiel, Merrett will have to play more outside too. So as you can see, if players of Merrett and Smith's calibre are moved from their best positions for the sake of their team's overall strength, do you really expect someone like Ahern, who is inferior in just about every category to even be considered?

As for Sier, it's not really a legitimate question when you see how he played every game bar 1 from round 15 to round 23 then all 4 games from the finals series for a team that made it to the grandfinal which relied on having one of the best midfields in the league...

 

[Wild Bill]

I can do this for the Dogs.

Libba, Wallis, Dunkley, McLean, Macrae (plays in and out, mostly mid this year and topped our clearances), Bontempelli

Plus we just drafted Bailey Smith and Rhylee West.

Ahern wouldn't get a game at the Dogs as an inside mid, but might do at Essendon from that list

Dogs ranked 14th in contested possessions and you honestly think Ahern wouldn’t get a game yet Honeychuch, Lipinski, Webb, Daniel & Jong all played senior footy.

 

[Wild Bill]

As expected, all that explanation catered just for you useless lol.

I'm guessing you can understand why Ahern wouldn't even be close to getting a game at the Cats or the Dogs, so let's look at West Coast and Essendon..

Shuey, Yeo and Redden play inside mid and rarely rotates through other positions when they have Gaff. Redden only plays a bit more outside when Gaff was suspended. Those 3 alone are already quite formidable and really don't need much help except for a couple of minutes resting on the bench, which is when Gaff comes from a wing and fill in for whichever of the 3 that needs a rest. This is exactly why Gaff averages close to 4 clearance a game (Which is more than Ahern despite substantially less time at contests btw...). Then, with the absolute emergence of Sheed, who really has become an exceptional big game player, it is likely that even players like Shuey/Yeo/Redden will receive reduced midfield minutes just to fit in Sheed and someone like Ahern probably wouldn't even be in the conversation. They also have a defensive player in Hutchings to play inside mid to tag someone like Fyfe or play wing to tag someone like Sidebottom.

Essendon. In 2018, they had Heppell, Merrett and Smith all with inside mid being their best position. Zaharakis played on a wing, and when Myers/Langford rotated to inside mid one of their primary trio moves to the wing. It wasn't the flashiest midfield, but was solid nonetheless.
Now, in 2019, they have their new recruit in Shiel, who will be their primary clearance player and possibly push Smith to the forward line more often to accomodate for Shiel's midfield minutes. Essendon seems to have high expectations of Langford as an inside mid so if they want to give him some chances in there as well from time to time on top of Shiel, Merrett will have to play more outside too. So as you can see, if players of Merrett and Smith's calibre are moved from their best positions for the sake of their team's overall strength, do you really expect someone like Ahern, who is inferior in just about every category to even be considered?

As for Sier, it's not really a legitimate question when you see how he played every game bar 1 from round 15 to round 23 then all 4 games from the finals series for a team that made it to the grandfinal which relied on having one of the best midfields in the league...

Sorry - I forgot - Sier is over 185cm. Therefore he in the norm for an inside mids.

Compare their stats. That’s the source of truth. Even down to their low TOG - which will lift as their fitmess improves.

 

[Prochard123]

Sorry - I forgot - Sier is over 185cm. Therefore he in the norm for an inside mids.

Compare their stats. That’s the source of truth. Even down to their low TOG - which will lift as their fitmess improves.

HAHAAH ok I'm done, moving on.

 

[Virgin Dog]

This... Especially WBD who I consider to have a top 5 midfield in the comp. Ahern could be down to 7th/8th best mid at the dogs which wasn't even a finals team in 2018 (Although I think their upside is extremely high).

Yeah we aren't the best example to use since our midfield is our major strength. Biggest reason why we aren't competing for finals is because of our forward line being bottom 3

 

[Virgin Dog]

Dogs ranked 14th in contested possessions and you honestly think Ahern wouldn’t get a game yet Honeychuch, Lipinski, Webb, Daniel & Jong all played senior footy.

Dogs ranked 2nd in clearance differential. Honey, Webb and Jong are all depth players who only get games when players are injured, which was a recurring theme for us last year. When the mids I named were healthy, the players you mentioned were nowhere to be seen. The only way Ahern gets picked ahead of Bont, Macrae, Hunter, Dunkley, McLean, Libba or Wallis is if they are injured

 

[Wild Bill]

As expected, all that explanation catered just for you useless lol.

I'm guessing you can understand why Ahern wouldn't even be close to getting a game at the Cats or the Dogs, so let's look at West Coast and Essendon..

Shuey, Yeo and Redden play inside mid and rarely rotates through other positions when they have Gaff. Redden only plays a bit more outside when Gaff was suspended. Those 3 alone are already quite formidable and really don't need much help except for a couple of minutes resting on the bench, which is when Gaff comes from a wing and fill in for whichever of the 3 that needs a rest. This is exactly why Gaff averages close to 4 clearance a game (Which is more than Ahern despite substantially less time at contests btw...). Then, with the absolute emergence of Sheed, who really has become an exceptional big game player, it is likely that even players like Shuey/Yeo/Redden will receive reduced midfield minutes just to fit in Sheed and someone like Ahern probably wouldn't even be in the conversation. They also have a defensive player in Hutchings to play inside mid to tag someone like Fyfe or play wing to tag someone like Sidebottom.

Essendon. In 2018, they had Heppell, Merrett and Smith all with inside mid being their best position. Zaharakis played on a wing, and when Myers/Langford rotated to inside mid one of their primary trio moves to the wing. It wasn't the flashiest midfield, but was solid nonetheless.
Now, in 2019, they have their new recruit in Shiel, who will be their primary clearance player and possibly push Smith to the forward line more often to accomodate for Shiel's midfield minutes. Essendon seems to have high expectations of Langford as an inside mid so if they want to give him some chances in there as well from time to time on top of Shiel, Merrett will have to play more outside too. So as you can see, if players of Merrett and Smith's calibre are moved from their best positions for the sake of their team's overall strength, do you really expect someone like Ahern, who is inferior in just about every category to even be considered?

As for Sier, it's not really a legitimate question when you see how he played every game bar 1 from round 15 to round 23 then all 4 games from the finals series for a team that made it to the grandfinal which relied on having one of the best midfields in the league...

Just on this rubbish that Ahern wouldn't get a game at ess, dogs, eagles & cats - these players did in 2018:

Jayden Laverde
Ben McNiece
Travis Coyler
Kobe Mutch
Lucas Webb
Patrick Lipinski
Smith Roarke
Lin Jong
Mitch Honeychurch
Jack Petruccelle
Brayden Ainsworth
Brendan Ah Chee
Lachie Fogarty
Jordan Cuncio
Zach Guthrie
Corey Gregson
Mark O'Connor

He gets a game.


Also if you can't see Ahern and Sier are close then its as bad a call as under 185cm inside mids are an anomaly.

Games Played
Ahern 11
Sier 12

Disposals
Ahern 21
Sier 19

Contested Possessions
Ahern 9.6
Sier 10.6

Effective Disposal
Ahern 13.7
Sier 13.3

Clearances
Ahern 3.2
Sier 4

Time on ground
Ahern 67.9%
Sier 63.8%

Centre Clearances
Ahern 1.8
Sier 1.8

Score Invloements
Ahern 5.1
Sier 4.6

Meters gained
Ahern 348
Sier 252


Not a legitimate question? Love to hear how Sier's 2018 was so much better than Ahern's?? I think both sets of supporters should be excited about these 2 kids - both have had injuries and both showed glimpses of being very good players.

Playing in a better side doesn't make him a better player.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Just on this rubbish that Ahern wouldn't get a game at ess, dogs, eagles & cats - these players did in 2018:

Jayden Laverde
Ben McNiece
Travis Coyler
Kobe Mutch
Lucas Webb
Patrick Lipinski
Smith Roarke
Lin Jong
Mitch Honeychurch
Jack Petruccelle
Brayden Ainsworth
Brendan Ah Chee
Lachie Fogarty
Jordan Cuncio
Zach Guthrie
Corey Gregson
Mark O'Connor

He gets a game.


Also if you can't see Ahern and Sier are close then its as bad a call as under 185cm inside mids are an anomaly.

Games Played
Ahern 11
Sier 12

Disposals
Ahern 21
Sier 19

Contested Possessions
Ahern 9.6
Sier 10.6

Effective Disposal
Ahern 13.7
Sier 13.3

Clearances
Ahern 3.2
Sier 4

Time on ground
Ahern 67.9%
Sier 63.8%

Centre Clearances
Ahern 1.8
Sier 1.8

Score Invloements
Ahern 5.1
Sier 4.6

Meters gained
Ahern 348
Sier 252


Not a legitimate question? Love to hear how Sier's 2018 was so much better than Ahern's?? I think both sets of supporters should be excited about these 2 kids - both have had injuries and both showed glimpses of being very good players.

Playing in a better side doesn't make him a better player.

Is the argument whether Ahern gets a game at all, or whether he is starting 22 in a fully fit and healthy side?

If it's the former, then yes he would get a game at the Dogs. The latter? I doubt it.

Midfield is far from being our weakness, and we will be getting Libba back next year as well as having Bailey Smith and Rhylee West pushing into the side. Just no room in a healthy Dogs side.

The player he'd be most competing with for a spot is McLean, who is 67th on the AFL Player Ratings, ahead of Jones, Gibbs, Coniglio, Hurn, and Witts at the next 5. Ahern is really not at that stage yet

 

[Pykie]

Classic BF.

Young mid who gets 20+ disposals in 8 of his 11 games in his first full season including a 37 disposal game wouldn't get a game in teams that finished below us over scrubs who average 5 disposals less a game.

 

[MartinLifts130]

Just on this rubbish that Ahern wouldn't get a game at ess, dogs, eagles & cats - these players did in 2018:

Jayden Laverde
Ben McNiece
Travis Coyler
Kobe Mutch
Lucas Webb
Patrick Lipinski
Smith Roarke
Lin Jong
Mitch Honeychurch
Jack Petruccelle
Brayden Ainsworth
Brendan Ah Chee
Lachie Fogarty
Jordan Cuncio
Zach Guthrie
Corey Gregson
Mark O'Connor

He gets a game.


Also if you can't see Ahern and Sier are close then its as bad a call as under 185cm inside mids are an anomaly.

Games Played
Ahern 11
Sier 12

Disposals
Ahern 21
Sier 19

Contested Possessions
Ahern 9.6
Sier 10.6

Effective Disposal
Ahern 13.7
Sier 13.3

Clearances
Ahern 3.2
Sier 4

Time on ground
Ahern 67.9%
Sier 63.8%

Centre Clearances
Ahern 1.8
Sier 1.8

Score Invloements
Ahern 5.1
Sier 4.6

Meters gained
Ahern 348
Sier 252


Not a legitimate question? Love to hear how Sier's 2018 was so much better than Ahern's?? I think both sets of supporters should be excited about these 2 kids - both have had injuries and both showed glimpses of being very good players.

Playing in a better side doesn't make him a better player.

how do you not understand that whether some of these guys played is irrelevant to whether ahern gets a game? ahern is an inside mid only so how is he trying for the same spot as those flankers? gosh you're so incompetent i want to cry

 

[Virgin Dog]

Classic BF.

Young mid who gets 20+ disposals in 8 of his 11 games in his first full season including a 37 disposal game wouldn't get a game in teams that finished below us over scrubs who average 5 disposals less a game.

The debate is over whether he fits into a select few sides who are already fairly stacked in the midfield. In most team, he'd be starting 22. In some of the sides that were mentioned, he would not be (unless best 22 players are injured). You need to consider context.

For example, in a fit Bulldogs side, which of our inside mids is he forcing out? You'd have McLean, Bonts, Macrae, Dunkley and Libba to choose from since they're easily our first 5 choices for inside mids

 

[MartinLifts130]

Just on this rubbish that Ahern wouldn't get a game at ess, dogs, eagles & cats - these players did in 2018:

Jayden Laverde
Ben McNiece
Travis Coyler
Kobe Mutch
Lucas Webb
Patrick Lipinski
Smith Roarke
Lin Jong
Mitch Honeychurch
Jack Petruccelle
Brayden Ainsworth
Brendan Ah Chee
Lachie Fogarty
Jordan Cuncio
Zach Guthrie
Corey Gregson
Mark O'Connor

He gets a game.


Also if you can't see Ahern and Sier are close then its as bad a call as under 185cm inside mids are an anomaly.

Games Played
Ahern 11
Sier 12

Disposals
Ahern 21
Sier 19

Contested Possessions
Ahern 9.6
Sier 10.6

Effective Disposal
Ahern 13.7
Sier 13.3

Clearances
Ahern 3.2
Sier 4

Time on ground
Ahern 67.9%
Sier 63.8%

Centre Clearances
Ahern 1.8
Sier 1.8

Score Invloements
Ahern 5.1
Sier 4.6

Meters gained
Ahern 348
Sier 252


Not a legitimate question? Love to hear how Sier's 2018 was so much better than Ahern's?? I think both sets of supporters should be excited about these 2 kids - both have had injuries and both showed glimpses of being very good players.

Playing in a better side doesn't make him a better player.

tackles a game:
ahern 2.4 Sier 4.6
inside 50s a game:
ahern 3.8 sier 4.2
clangers
ahern 3.3 sier 2

how does someone who averages only 21 possessions a game even have 3.3 clangers? i think pies supporters should just calm down regarding sier but ahern is just mediocre can see why gws got rid of him for free

 

[Pykie]

As expected, all that explanation catered just for you useless lol.

I'm guessing you can understand why Ahern wouldn't even be close to getting a game at the Cats or the Dogs, so let's look at West Coast and Essendon..

Shuey, Yeo and Redden play inside mid and rarely rotates through other positions when they have Gaff. Redden only plays a bit more outside when Gaff was suspended. Those 3 alone are already quite formidable and really don't need much help except for a couple of minutes resting on the bench, which is when Gaff comes from a wing and fill in for whichever of the 3 that needs a rest. This is exactly why Gaff averages close to 4 clearance a game (Which is more than Ahern despite substantially less time at contests btw...). Then, with the absolute emergence of Sheed, who really has become an exceptional big game player, it is likely that even players like Shuey/Yeo/Redden will receive reduced midfield minutes just to fit in Sheed and someone like Ahern probably wouldn't even be in the conversation. They also have a defensive player in Hutchings to play inside mid to tag someone like Fyfe or play wing to tag someone like Sidebottom.

Essendon. In 2018, they had Heppell, Merrett and Smith all with inside mid being their best position. Zaharakis played on a wing, and when Myers/Langford rotated to inside mid one of their primary trio moves to the wing. It wasn't the flashiest midfield, but was solid nonetheless.
Now, in 2019, they have their new recruit in Shiel, who will be their primary clearance player and possibly push Smith to the forward line more often to accomodate for Shiel's midfield minutes. Essendon seems to have high expectations of Langford as an inside mid so if they want to give him some chances in there as well from time to time on top of Shiel, Merrett will have to play more outside too. So as you can see, if players of Merrett and Smith's calibre are moved from their best positions for the sake of their team's overall strength, do you really expect someone like Ahern, who is inferior in just about every category to even be considered?

As for Sier, it's not really a legitimate question when you see how he played every game bar 1 from round 15 to round 23 then all 4 games from the finals series for a team that made it to the grandfinal which relied on having one of the best midfields in the league...

What about Duggan and Masten?

Parish, Langford, Guelfi and Dea all played 12+ games for Essendon last year.

Collingwood might have the best midfield in the league, but Chris Mayne still played 21 games for them, mainly off the wing.

James Aish, Levi Greenwood, James Aish and Callum Brown all played significant games for them this season.


Do I need to go on? Or are you going to keep listing each sides best 2-3 midfielders like that actually applies to Ahern or we are even making that debate?

Ahern is still behind Higgins, Cunnington, Dumont, Jacobs and Anderson at North alone. With Polec, Hall and Tyson also now coming into the side.

We will have one of the highest ranked midfields in the league in 2019, but he will still be in the side....

 

[Pykie]

The debate is over whether he fits into a select few sides who are already fairly stacked in the midfield. In most team, he'd be starting 22. In some of the sides that were mentioned, he would not be (unless best 22 players are injured). You need to consider context.

For example, in a fit Bulldogs side, which of our inside mids is he forcing out? You'd have McLean, Bonts, Macrae, Dunkley and Libba to choose from since they're easily our first 5 choices for inside mids

Champion Data ranks our midfield better than yours in 2019.

He will get a game in ours, so yeah, he probably would in yours.

 

[Wild Bill]

Dogs ranked 2nd in clearance differential. Honey, Webb and Jong are all depth players who only get games when players are injured, which was a recurring theme for us last year. When the mids I named were healthy, the players you mentioned were nowhere to be seen. The only way Ahern gets picked ahead of Bont, Macrae, Hunter, Dunkley, McLean, Libba or Wallis is if they are injured

Hang on you played games with the Bont, Dunkley, Hunter, Macrae, McLean & Wallis - only Libba missed - Jong & Honeychuch both played?

Even if Libba played 1 of Jong and Honeychurch are also playing.

Also weren't Dog posters calling for Wallis to be dropped and traded at years end?

 

[Virgin Dog]

Champion Data ranks our midfield better than yours in 2019.

He will get a game in ours, so yeah, he probably would in yours.

Again, you are ignoring the facts. We are talking about INSIDE mids right now, you can't just look at an overall midfield ranking and say "yep, he goes in". Your midfield is ranked high because of guys like Higgins and Cunnington, not Ahern. Not to mention you are 6th while we are 7th, so is there really that much difference? Consider the ruck situation, and that basically accounts for the entire difference between our midfields overall quality. Being ranked higher doesn't automatically mean every single midfielder is better than another clubs. Which of the 5 players I listed does he replace?

He gets a game throughout the year in our side if injuries occur. Fully fit, he is not in our best 22

 

[Virgin Dog]

Hang on you played games with the Bont, Dunkley, Hunter, Macrae, McLean & Wallis - only Libba missed - Jong & Honeychuch both played?

Even if Libba played 1 of Jong and Honeychurch are also playing.

Also weren't Dog posters calling for Wallis to be dropped and traded at years end?

Ok, he'd be pushing ahead of Wallis if form was an issue. And no, I didn't see anyone calling for him being dropped and traded at years end, when did this happen? He was actually in fairly good form in latter end of the year, his form issues were earlier.

As a pure inside mid, there is only so many of these types you can play in a side. In a fully fit 22, he is behind Bont, Macrae, Libba, Dunkley and McLean at the very least, plus we have Hunter who plays inside and outside (although as a wing). I don't see where he'd fit in our 22. Jong, Webb and Honeychurch are not even close to best 22 at the Dogs (hence why Honey was delisted), they only played because we had so many injuries throughout the year.

 

[Pykie]

tackles a game:
ahern 2.4 Sier 4.6
inside 50s a game:
ahern 3.8 sier 4.2
clangers
ahern 3.3 sier 2

how does someone who averages only 21 possessions a game even have 3.3 clangers? i think pies supporters should just calm down regarding sier but ahern is just mediocre can see why gws got rid of him for free

You might want to review the league averages, he not close to the top.


Puts him at #79 in the league for clangers per game.

How does Nankervis average 4.3 from 16 disposals?

 

[Pykie]

Again, you are ignoring the facts. We are talking about INSIDE mids right now, you can't just look at an overall midfield ranking and say "yep, he goes in". Your midfield is ranked high because of guys like Higgins and Cunnington, not Ahern. Not to mention you are 6th while we are 7th, so is there really that much difference? Consider the ruck situation, and that basically accounts for the entire difference between our midfields overall quality. Being ranked higher doesn't automatically mean every single midfielder is better than another clubs. Which of the 5 players I listed does he replace?

He gets a game throughout the year in our side if injuries occur. Fully fit, he is not in our best 22

Why are you pigeon holing him as an inside midfielder only?

The guy was drafted in the top 10 as an attacking half back/midfielder.

He ranks second at North from our midfield for goal assists (Behind Higgins), 2nd in the entire team for inside 50's, 1st for bounces and our second best mid (Behind Higgins) for meters gained.

But keep informing me of the game style of one of our players you have probably seen play 3 times in your life.


Looking forward to Bailey Smith not getting a game in Rnd 1 then.

 

[Wild Bill]

tackles a game:
ahern 2.4 Sier 4.6
inside 50s a game:
ahern 3.8 sier 4.2
clangers
ahern 3.3 sier 2

how does someone who averages only 21 possessions a game even have 3.3 clangers? i think pies supporters should just calm down regarding sier but ahern is just mediocre can see why gws got rid of him for free

Not sure - maybe ask Trent Cotchin at the next family day - 22 possessions 3.1 clangers per game.

 

[Virgin Dog]

This is probably the third time I've specifically asked you - who does he replace in our midfield? If we look at our half-back line, what does he provide that makes him more valuable than JJ, Williams, Richards, Crozier, Duryea and Wood? Because they'd be our first 6 choices for half-back.

You are latching on to this idea that Ahern is a good player (which I agree with), but are ignoring the fact that he has to force someone out in a similar position. Dogs have the 7th ranked midfield and 8th ranked defence, so those really aren't concerns of ours. If he was a half-forward, then I could definitely see him finding a spot, but otherwise I just don't see it