List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

[Flandersss]

6:30 to 9:30pm Melbourne time on Fox Footy.

I’m wrong Keg on legs

 

[Shred]

Prediction
7. Stephenson
8. Clark
34. Bailey

Best case I can see happening
7. Cerra
8. Clark
34. McCartin

Order of preference
1. Rayner
2. LDU
3. Dow
4. Cerra
5. Brayshaw
6. Coffield
7. Stephenson
8. Clarke
9. Fogarty
10. Boner

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Clark & Bonar/Coffield is the scenario at this stage

Cerra can still get to us if word is North have gone cold on him as they looked the biggest threat. Freo also could grab him unless they see him as a flight risk and unsure if pies would take him if they are looking at others.

Maybe North take Brayshaw or Dow and Freo go the D Fog or Naughton with #5 if they dont want two mids, then pies will look at Coff, Cerra and Murphy. D fog has to come into top 6 contention for us to get Cerra i reckon.

Who knows! This has to be the hardest draft to predict that i can think of.

Appears Only way Cerra makes it is if he and Brayshaw are both there. They might take Brayshaw first depending on their order. Also a bit of an if for Pies to skip him as well, but possible. So only way Brayshaw and Cerra get there is if there is a bit of a bolter at 4 or as you say Freo do likewise, but they’ve really not been linked with anything but mids, so seems unlikely.

 

[Flandersss]

Prediction
7. Stephenson
8. Clark
34. Bailey

Best case I can see happening
7. Cerra
8. Clark
34. McCartin

Order of preference
1. Rayner
2. LDU
3. Dow
4. Cerra
5. Brayshaw
6. Coffield
7. Stephenson
8. Clarke
9. Fogarty
10. Boner

I love the haul of Cerra/Clark/McCartin.

Don’t forget we’re using 45 aswell. Could be Hartung, could be a Petty/Taylor type.

 

[Crusty Undies]

Could it be his shift away from the midfield in the champs when he was put behind the ball that diminished his star somewhat. Or maybe he struggled physically with niggle. Or maybe some of the bodies around him grew and/or matured quicker so as to suggest that Hunters impact in the big leagues will not be what was expected.

But as Twomey’s tweet from early 2016 suggests, he’s always been in the conversation.

I like Hunter because he can dispose by foot from congestion. Gets himself into good position to find the pill, sees players in space very early, and gets foot to ball turbo quick for the short pass and mark. High footy IQ. Gut runner. Fearless in the tackle. Stays on his feet. Can step, spin, dummy with the best of them. Fast safe hands, and a good handballer. His one knock has to be his size and his ability to fill out and impact the contest and or tackle at the highest level. EDIT: Possibly a comparative lack of explosive pace.

Best of the rest once you take LDU, Dow, Cerra and Rayner off the table.

Nah sorry not best of the rest. Is definitely not a good kick out of congestion, no breakaway first few steps. Stephenson is a literal matchwinner, Brayshaw has been the most consistently good player from this year's draft crop. Coffield is faster, taller and a better kick. I'd have the top 3 (rayner, dow, ldu). Then the next 4, then clark at best, I see him going about 13 though after some of the bolters and key position players go.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Prediction
7. Stephenson
8. Clark
34. Bailey

Best case I can see happening
7. Cerra
8. Clark
34. McCartin

Order of preference
1. Rayner
2. LDU
3. Dow
4. Cerra
5. Brayshaw
6. Coffield
7. Stephenson
8. Clarke
9. Fogarty
10. Boner

Prediction
7. Coffield
8. Clark
34. Petrucelle
45. Hartung

Best case I can see happening
7. Cerra
8. Bonar
34. Ross
45. Hartung

 

[Premium]

Schloithe has been told they will try to get him. They also have Parker/TKelly interest. When & What draft , I don't know.

After looking at the Kelly , Ryan highlights , they would have to be the best highlights of any of the draft picks , one touch class players - to tell you the truth these guys should just about be top ten .
we took long at 24 and these guys are slick.

Why are these draft experts over looking these guys.

I still see we go for Cerra , Fogarty , Stephenson , Coffield , Brayshaw but our 2nd round pick should be one of Kelly or Ryan - would top off our forward line , just class

 

[stavro#4]

Prediction
7. Coffield
8. Clark
34. Petrucelle
45. Hartung

Best case I can see happening
7. Cerra
8. Bonar
34. Ross
45. Hartung

Clark was really firming. So I think he will be 8 and a slider at ,7

 

[StCicatriz]

Does Clark have the tank to play as an outside mid?

If he's being being picked as an inside mid surely there are better options available for an inside mid. Ainsworth is a better inside mid

I think for Clark to be picked by us he would have to be picked as an outside mid

 

[Rors]

Somewhat valid point.

Reassures that really we should be picking Stephenson if he's there.

Reassured that we shouldn’t be picking Stephenson IMHO

Bloke can’t hit a field target to save himself, but is a dead eye dick on goal

 

[pebblesofsand]

So recruiting is often just gut feel?

Of course it is - if it was an exact science there would be no busts, no drama, no mystery.

Just Pick 1 best player, Pick 2 second best etc etc

 

[Rors]

Coverage of Draft starts at 6.30pm

Start of draft & First pick will be just after 7pm (like last year)

 

[aussierulesrules]

Does Clark have the tank to play as an outside mid?

If he's being being picked as an inside mid surely there are better options available for an inside mid. Ainsworth is a better inside mid

I think for Clark to be picked by us he would have to be picked as an outside mid

Fair bit of talk about HC from this post onwards, including views about his kicking, running abilities and which roles he'll be best suited to.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bishops-2017-draft-thread.1162459/page-85#post-53466659

 

[aussierulesrules]

Sam Cheeseburger says in his phantom today that we are "huge fans of Stephenson" and may pounce if given the heart all-clear.

 

[triggering bro]

Clark was really firming. So I think he will be 8 and a slider at ,7

Clark seems like an obvious choice we should make especially with two top 10 picks at the ready.

Too much emphasis is placed on draft year & not enough on the couple of years prior. How often do we see established AFL players have a top 10 in the comp year & follow it up with maybe a 20-30 in comp year?

I really hope our recruiters are paying consideration to the overal junior careers when picking players cos we saw blokes like Berry & Witherden slide cos they weren’t at their underage level (for a different reasons) only to look like top 5 draftees once they hit the AFL.

In order of preference:
1. LDU
2. Cerra
3. Dow
4. Rayner
5. Clark

I’d be very happy to snag the bloke I have top 5 preference with pick 7/8.

 

[triggering bro]

Fair bit of talk about HC from this post onwards, including views about his kicking, running abilities and which roles he'll be best suited to.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bishops-2017-draft-thread.1162459/page-85#post-53466659

I’m getting the vibe Hedgy rates him? Clark seems very underrated which is strange considering he was rated 1-5 as an underager & didn’t do an awful lot wrong this year.

 

[can coach]

Not much talk of our later picks 34 and 44(I think). I do hope with at least 1 we get a gun state league player possibly fritsch or kelly mostly. I think would really beef our core players , whilst still being young enough.

 

[triggering bro]

Sam Cheeseburger says in his phantom today that we are "huge fans of Stephenson" and may pounce if given the heart all-clear.

I haven’t seen his phantom. Who’d he have us taking?

 

[Kilroy]

Not much talk of our later picks 34 and 44(I think). I do hope with at least 1 we get a gun state league player possibly fritsch or kelly mostly. I think would really beef our core players , whilst still being young enough.

What about this guy?

Kade Answerth (Sandringham, 20, 183cm, 82kg): having won the medal as best-afield for Oakleigh Chargers in the 2015 TAC Cup grand final, Answerth arrived at Sandy with a decent reputation. He enhanced it by finishing runner-up in the best and fairest for a team that featured 15 St Kilda players most weeks. Answerth initially played as the 23rd man but he needed no selection favours from there, commanding an onball role and setting the example with his tackling.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...l/news-story/57290b5a4d1bff2f61ebab8a47c2e19c

 

[aussierulesrules]

I’m getting the vibe Hedgy rates him? Clark seems very underrated which is strange considering he was rated 1-5 as an underager & didn’t do an awful lot wrong this year.

I think you're overrating his underage year though. Only averaged 16 disposals per game in his 10 TAC Cup games in 2016 and only 7.5 disposals per game in his two champs games.

Compare that to say LOB, who averaged 24 and 14 disposals respectively per game in his underage year, or Sam Walsh this year for Geelong for instance, who averaged something like 28, even though he's not eligible until next year. Sounds like he went really well at 16yo tho.

I don't think you need to worry though, we clearly rate what they do over a number of years, otherwise we probably wouldn't have drafted Billings or Paddy, or J-Webb, apart from anyone else.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Sam Cheeseburger says in his phantom today that we are "huge fans of Stephenson" and may pounce if given the heart all-clear.

I’m still hoping for Stepho and Bonar. Not for the X factor, just the two I hope might have terrific careers. Clark is a reasonable fallback.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I haven’t seen his phantom. Who’d he have us taking?

Clark and Bone. Didn't have Stephenson top 15 and had Coffield going at 12 I think.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I’m still hoping for Stepho and Bonar. Not for the X factor, just the two I hope might have terrific careers. Clark is a reasonable fallback.

I would love those two, but risk-factor off the charts!

 

[Flandersss]

I haven’t seen his phantom. Who’d he have us taking?

 

[triggering bro]

Clark and Bone. Didn't have Stephenson top 15 and had Coffield going at 12 I think.

Have you got a link I can’t find it?