Jimmae
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Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added
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Fogarty 2 goals in the first quarter of the match v WA.
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Jimmae
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The idea of getting Fyfe and a player like Fogarty must be driving SOS nuts.
Thank you, Aph.
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Oh really?
GWS mids:
Shiel > 182cm
Kelly > 184cm
Scully > 181cm
Ward > 187cm
Taranto > 186cm
M.Kennedy > 188cm
Perryman > 184cm
Hopper > 187cm
I guess they didn't get the memo, no flags for them...
Lobb is GWS's only best 22 player over 200cm...
Cripps definitely needs help, but LDU is AFL ready and a big bodied inside mid with what sounds like all the attributes we need:
He'll certainly be helping Cripps, he's an accumulator and the left foot kick is important.
Fogarty does not look like a top 5 pick for mine. Just came back from the game and he was not that impressive.
Just a quick repot, I will attempt to write something longer tonight.
WA.
2 - Hill: 2018 it will be interesting to see how high this kid will go. Has great speed, clean hands and a one touch player. I would not mind him being a little more selfish infront of goal, but he could be a top 15 pick next year.
9 - Patmore: I'm not seeing AFL qualities at the moment. Missed some shots at goal, kicking below average and decision making was not the best. Disappointing considering I heard good things about him.
11 - England: Has speed to burn, just a pity he seems to burn the ball a little too much.
15 - Ainsworth: I would be watching this kid as I've heard he only just came up to Perth recently. Nice run and carry and one of the few players still running hard in the last quarter when SA were all over us.
22 - Hayden: He was the biggest surprise packet for me. He reminds me a heap of SPP from last year. Just a brute of a kid that charged through people. I was a huge fan for most of the game and then he made a 30m chase down attempt to help stop a goal, that is when he won a few more brownie points. Watch this space... He did not run out the game, so his tank may be lacking.
25 - Allen: Was by far the best forward on the lead today. Strong on the lead and great timing, always creating a target out of defense as well. Still at the end of the day, he is undersized for a forward and not sure the SA defenders were the strongest.
27 Taylor: Best on ground (from a recruitment standpoint). Seemed to play on the resting ruck a lot, outsized but almost did not lose one contest. Great closing speed, amazing marking and can spoil with both hands. Very solid kick as well, stand out player. Does not go to ground and one contest was a highlight. Went to spoil a player, came to ground and someone crumbed the ball, he stayed on his feet, chased him down, dived and almost spoiled the ball but the player was forced to kick it out of the full. Just an amazing sequence that really highlighted his ability.
29 Naughton: Another very solid player for WA, strong over head, great second efforts and I liked his kicking. Great second efforts and the ability to break lines was also a highlight. Spotted up targets a few times with some attacking kicking options.
31 Frampton: A few Frampton fans around these parts, just did not really see it today. Got smashed in the ruck, but when he got his hands to the ball his tap work was very good. Did not massively produce around the grounds, but is a solid kick.
SA
If I am being honest, I did not watch SA as closely.
2 Rankin: Has a great leap if I am not mistaken and very dangerous around goals.
5 Giro: I liked this kid, nice inside and outside work in the midfield. Just a little small as always with SA midfielders, they seem to be a touch small.
14 Hewson: He was a surprise packet for mine, have not heard his name mentioned much but I loved his work down back and then he shifted into the midfield and I like his work in there. Watched one center square take away and picked it up with one hand, spun and shot out a quick handball. Then in the last quarter, squared up a kick across the goals that was amazing. I did see two rather crappy kicks, but on the whole i liked his work.
37 Ballard: This kid has potential, I want to see him more often, but I love his midfield work and around the grounds. Lovely size and I would keep an eye on him in the following televised games.
40 Fogarty: Looks lost in the midfield for mine, so if you require a midfielder then he may not be your man. Up forward he looked okay, but was nothing special. Down back in the last quarter and did his best work there, still I think he lacks effort. His knee was strapped, so maybe he is playing injured, but certainly not screaming top 5 pick for mine. In the midfield he just attempts to use his strength and WA seemed to stop him constantly with strong tackles.
49 CCJ: MONSTER last quarter, WA just could not get passed him. Strong hands and while his kicking looks hideous, I guess it end up getting to its location... I still think he will struggle with that kicking action at AFL level.
WA.
2 - Hill: 2018 it will be interesting to see how high this kid will go. Has great speed, clean hands and a one touch player. I would not mind him being a little more selfish infront of goal, but he could be a top 15 pick next year.
9 - Patmore: I'm not seeing AFL qualities at the moment. Missed some shots at goal, kicking below average and decision making was not the best. Disappointing considering I heard good things about him.
11 - England: Has speed to burn, just a pity he seems to burn the ball a little too much.
15 - Ainsworth: I would be watching this kid as I've heard he only just came up to Perth recently. Nice run and carry and one of the few players still running hard in the last quarter when SA were all over us.
22 - Hayden: He was the biggest surprise packet for me. He reminds me a heap of SPP from last year. Just a brute of a kid that charged through people. I was a huge fan for most of the game and then he made a 30m chase down attempt to help stop a goal, that is when he won a few more brownie points. Watch this space... He did not run out the game, so his tank may be lacking.
25 - Allen: Was by far the best forward on the lead today. Strong on the lead and great timing, always creating a target out of defense as well. Still at the end of the day, he is undersized for a forward and not sure the SA defenders were the strongest.
27 Taylor: Best on ground (from a recruitment standpoint). Seemed to play on the resting ruck a lot, outsized but almost did not lose one contest. Great closing speed, amazing marking and can spoil with both hands. Very solid kick as well, stand out player. Does not go to ground and one contest was a highlight. Went to spoil a player, came to ground and someone crumbed the ball, he stayed on his feet, chased him down, dived and almost spoiled the ball but the player was forced to kick it out of the full. Just an amazing sequence that really highlighted his ability.
29 Naughton: Another very solid player for WA, strong over head, great second efforts and I liked his kicking. Great second efforts and the ability to break lines was also a highlight. Spotted up targets a few times with some attacking kicking options.
31 Frampton: A few Frampton fans around these parts, just did not really see it today. Got smashed in the ruck, but when he got his hands to the ball his tap work was very good. Did not massively produce around the grounds, but is a solid kick.
SA
If I am being honest, I did not watch SA as closely.
2 Rankin: Has a great leap if I am not mistaken and very dangerous around goals.
5 Giro: I liked this kid, nice inside and outside work in the midfield. Just a little small as always with SA midfielders, they seem to be a touch small.
14 Hewson: He was a surprise packet for mine, have not heard his name mentioned much but I loved his work down back and then he shifted into the midfield and I like his work in there. Watched one center square take away and picked it up with one hand, spun and shot out a quick handball. Then in the last quarter, squared up a kick across the goals that was amazing. I did see two rather crappy kicks, but on the whole i liked his work.
37 Ballard: This kid has potential, I want to see him more often, but I love his midfield work and around the grounds. Lovely size and I would keep an eye on him in the following televised games.
40 Fogarty: Looks lost in the midfield for mine, so if you require a midfielder then he may not be your man. Up forward he looked okay, but was nothing special. Down back in the last quarter and did his best work there, still I think he lacks effort. His knee was strapped, so maybe he is playing injured, but certainly not screaming top 5 pick for mine. In the midfield he just attempts to use his strength and WA seemed to stop him constantly with strong tackles.
49 CCJ: MONSTER last quarter, WA just could not get passed him. Strong hands and while his kicking looks hideous, I guess it end up getting to its location... I still think he will struggle with that kicking action at AFL level.
LDU or Rayner for me.
Check out the TAC cup top 5 plays last week.
Rayner no.1 with a hanger and running goal through CHF.
Clearly Frampton did not Come Alive today (apologies in advance).
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Can't recall where I saw it and it may have been from a Carlton poster that described Fogarty as Lou Ferrigno beating up on little kids.
Thought that was pretty funny and somewhat apt.
He tried on a number of occasions to beat up on WA kids and just got tackled and taken to the ground. SA don't have the best team, but there will be another 3 times I get to view Fogarty, so who knows, I could have seen a bad game.
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As I said before today's game, Fogarty probably isn't the mid we need. I just don't like the idea of two 193cm+ mids. Starting to lean more towards LDU now.
Who are you leaning towards more
Nobody at the moment, I just want the midfielder that looks the best. It certainly is not Fogarty at the moment.
Nothing you've posted makes any sense whatsoever, completely and utterly not connected by any sense or logic to my posts. Keep up the good work.
Despite the fact LDU hasn't played yet. That makes a lot of sense lol
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That's because what I posted is filled with reality and logic while yours was filled with fantasy rubbish.
192cm is the new 188cm? LOL what does that even mean? Makes no sense at all when you look at the best team in the comp and not one of their best midfielders is anywhere near 192cm.
So how you draw this conclusion that 192cm is the revolutionary new desirable height for the modern midfielder is pure fantasy.
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What do you mean he hasn't played? He's played plenty of times, we don't need to wait for this weekend to see what he's capable of.
BTW, Fogarty didn't really do anything to convince me, by all reports he was average at best today, particularly in the midfield...
About 193cm would be, actually, and a player that can play in multiple positions. The point is not that players have to be taller to play in the midfield but rather that already having Cripps in the side shouldn't prevent us from drafting midfielders above a certain height. The average AFL footballer is getting taller by the year.
Very interested in O'Brien this year, followed closely by Cerra
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I was keen on O'Brien has well. Alot of players to keep an eye on over the next month.
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