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List Mgmt. 2017 Draft - Pick 10 - Poll Added

Who would YOU pick at #10 in this years draft? (Single Choice)

  • Stephenson

    Votes: 34 9.8%
  • Brayshaw

    Votes: 82 23.7%
  • Coffield

    Votes: 22 6.4%
  • Constable

    Votes: 18 5.2%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 31 9.0%
  • Brander

    Votes: 5 1.4%
  • Bonar

    Votes: 32 9.2%
  • Clark

    Votes: 26 7.5%
  • DFogarty

    Votes: 84 24.3%
  • Hayes

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 2.6%

  • Total voters
    346

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Would like us to take a flier on Bonar if we get Dow or LDU at 3 and Fogarty is gone. If we get Rayner I'd lean more conservatively. Bonar is a bit of x-factor and I'd back us to make him payoff.

Although if we get Rayner taking 2 x-factor types is a bit iffy.

I'd say one 'X-factor' type of player max.

We already have Charlie & Pickett who i would classify in that bracket. Arguably SPS as well and imo you don't actually want too many...need a balance of X-factor but also guys who are ultra-consistent and set up the play again and again, playing their role in the structure. These players allow the X-factor types to thrive.
 

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Brett Anderson has Ed Richards to us at 10 now as well.

As I mentioned a few days ago a family member of Ed's said it was GWS, WB or Carlton that were keen. We have the first crack unless he slips to 30.

Feels like we are getting Ed. I know almost nothing about him.... Apparently a bolter with amazing pace and excellent disposal at top speed. Sounds nice.

Edit: May have forgotten Dogs have 9 :(
 
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I'd say one 'X-factor' type of player max.

We already have Charlie & Pickett who i would classify in that bracket. Arguably SPS as well and imo you don't actually want too many...need a balance of X-factor but also guys who are ultra-consistent and set up the play again and again, playing their role in the structure. These players allow the X-factor types to thrive.
That's more or less what I'm saying.

And I was referring to this draft individually than the team whole. I think Curnow and SPS have shown they're going to be more than x-factor contributors over there respective careers. Curnow was a bit of a risk when we took him, but SPS was strongly rated by most. I'd say Bonar would be a pick similar to that of Curnow. As I said, I'd only be willing to take that on having already got a strong reliable candidate at pick 3, otherwise be conservative and go after a more reliable player.
 
Brett Anderson has Ed Richards to us at 10 now as well.

As I mentioned a few days ago a family member of Ed's said it was GWS, WB or Carlton that were keen. We have the first crack unless he slips to 30.

Feels like we are getting Ed. I know almost nothing about him.... Apparently a bolter with amazing pace and excellent disposal at top speed. Sounds nice.

That seems a fairly unlikely choice to me. Why we would we go for a guy who plays half back rather than midfield/forward?
 
That seems a fairly unlikely choice to me. Why we would we go for a guy who plays half back rather than midfield/forward?

Maybe SOS sees him as a long term midfield prospect?

Speedy running defender who dominated in the APS school football competition for Carey. Is trusted with taking the kick outs and is a clean and effective kick on his left foot. Can play as an inside midfielder, where he uses his quick & clean hands to effectiveness.
 
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Brett Anderson has Ed Richards to us at 10 now as well.

As I mentioned a few days ago a family member of Ed's said it was GWS, WB or Carlton that were keen. We have the first crack unless he slips to 30.

Feels like we are getting Ed. I know almost nothing about him.... Apparently a bolter with amazing pace and excellent disposal at top speed. Sounds nice.

Just watched his 'Tomorrow's Heroes' video.

Says he is mostly a running half back who likes to break the lines and usually takes kick-outs from behinds. Models his game on Heath Shaw.
Also said he only this year played on the wing a bit so thinks he might develop more in that position at AFL level.

We could do with another running half back that's for sure...Simmo is getting on in age, Doc is gone for the season, Byrne is inexperienced and returning from an ACL and Williamson is a 2nd year player. Mullett has been touted more for a wing role...the likes of he and Richards could possibly alternate between wing and defence providing speed and run.

Outside speed on the wing and speed coming out of defence are 2 areas we are lacking in...sounds like Richards can play both roles which makes him very handy and could see him higher on our draft board than some other clubs.

Can't forget that we targeted Saad and missed out on him. It was also clear from our last 3 games that we will try to play a more attacking brand of footy next year and speed off half back is a big part of that.
 
Richards at 10? Wow.

Would be a real surprise but it sounds as though he's bolting up the draft order.

I know little about him but there's a fair bit to like there.

- Pace
- Skills
- Left footer
- Attacking mindset
- Versatility

Reads like a potential Simpson replacement.

That seems a fairly unlikely choice to me. Why we would we go for a guy who plays half back rather than midfield/forward?

I don't understand the question.

If we see Richards as the best option for us at that pick...why wouldn't we take him?
 

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That seems a fairly unlikely choice to me. Why we would we go for a guy who plays half back rather than midfield/forward?

Left footer with good disposal and pace, sounds like our kind of guy.

Reading a little more it is impressive he has the size to play inside mid with his reported pace. But to me the biggest plus is disposal at top speed.
 
Not sure Williamson being a 2nd year player and Byrne being inexperienced is a good reason for getting Richards. He is a 1st year player with less experience. Docherty will be back in a year.
 
Not sure Williamson being a 2nd year player and Byrne being inexperienced is a good reason for getting Richards. He is a 1st year player with less experience. Docherty will be back in a year.

We do also have the new Irish recruit who will likely fill a similar role.

But that also being said with the premiership being won by a small forward line, do we need 3-4 small defenders in the best 22 every week?

I think the call on Richards would be if they see him as more than just a running HB which sounds possible.
 
We do also have the new Irish recruit who will likely fill a similar role.

But that also being said with the premiership being won by a small forward line, do we need 3-4 small defenders in the best 22 every week?

I think the call on Richards would be if they see him as more than just a running HB which sounds possible.

We have recruited flankers in the past hoping they will transition to the midfield. It's not as easy as one might think.
 
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That seems a fairly unlikely choice to me. Why we would we go for a guy who plays half back rather than midfield/forward?

Its likely that Pick3 will be a midfielder who can also go forward, we also have Pick 30 that can be used on a forward/ mid. We definitely need another running defender. We have Doc out, Simpson in his last year or two. We are stacked with talls in the backline but def lacking smalls.
 
Its likely that Pick3 will be a midfielder who can also go forward, we also have Pick 30 that can be used on a forward/ mid. We definitely need another running defender. We have Doc out, Simpson in his last year or two. We are stacked with talls in the backline but def lacking smalls.

Add to that Mullett who is likely a short-term option at most (2-3 years then depth, similar to Kerridge).

Simpson - gone in 2 years tops.
Docherty - future captain, has publically stated a desire to spend some time in the middle.
Byrne - has played 15 games in 3 seasons, love what he offers but he could end up another Sheehan-story.
Williamson - strong candidate moving forward, but also has the size and aggression to perform in the middle.
Mullett - stop-gap recruitment, if he becomes any more than that it'll will be a pleasant surprise.
McDaid - Cat B rookie, has never played AFL in his life?

That's 6 small defender types.
1 close to retirement.
1 genuine gun with 10 years ahead of him.
1 good prospect with an unfortunate injury record.
1 promising young 19yo who could play a role higher up the ground.

1 short-term DFA.
1 Hail Mary international prospect.

The three in bold are the ones we'd hope to lock in for the next 5-6 years while we make an play for #17. And really, none of them are blessed with exceptional pace. One's a general who can read the play, the other two are quality ball-users. There's absolutely room for a pacy left-footer who takes the game on and hits targets at full flight.

The more pertinent question is who else could still be on the board that we simply could not pass on?
 

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We have recruited flankers in the past hoping they will transition to the midfield. It's not as easy as one might think.

Prior to the last few years (and pick #1s), we couldn't even recruit midfielders that transitioned into AFL midfielders....
 
Add to that Mullett who is likely a short-term option at most (2-3 years then depth, similar to Kerridge).

Simpson - gone in 2 years tops.
Docherty - future captain, has publically stated a desire to spend some time in the middle.
Byrne - has played 15 games in 3 seasons, love what he offers but he could end up another Sheehan-story.
Williamson - strong candidate moving forward, but also has the size and aggression to perform in the middle.
Mullett - stop-gap recruitment, if he becomes any more than that it'll will be a pleasant surprise.
McDaid - Cat B rookie, has never played AFL in his life?

That's 6 small defender types.
1 close to retirement.
1 genuine gun with 10 years ahead of him.
1 good prospect with an unfortunate injury record.
1 promising young 19yo who could play a role higher up the ground.

1 short-term DFA.
1 Hail Mary international prospect.

The three in bold are the ones we'd hope to lock in for the next 5-6 years while we make an play for #17. And really, none of them are blessed with exceptional pace. One's a general who can read the play, the other two are quality ball-users. There's absolutely room for a pacy left-footer who takes the game on and hits targets at full flight.

The more pertinent question is who else could still be on the board that we simply could not pass on?

Yes it just depends who is on the board.

I suspect LDU, Rayner, Dow, Cerra, Brayshaw, Stephenson , Naughton, Fogarty, Coffield to likely be gone. If that is the case who is really left?

Of the players likely to be left they all offer something we lack in. Running ability and elite kicking

Hunter - strong chance, outside run and kicking skills, can play HB and Mid
LOB - strong chance, we need outside run and kicking skills, can play HB and Wing
Richards - Speed , line breaking HB, great kicking can push to the wings

Match any of these players with LDU or Dow and we are looking good.
 
Yes it just depends who is on the board.

I suspect LDU, Rayner, Dow, Cerra, Brayshaw, Stephenson , Naughton, Fogarty, Coffield to likely be gone. If that is the case who is really left?

Of the players likely to be left they all offer something we lack in. Running ability and elite kicking

Hunter - strong chance, outside run and kicking skills, can play HB and Mid
LOB - strong chance, we need outside run and kicking skills, can play HB and Wing
Richards - Speed , line breaking HB, great kicking can push to the wings

Match any of these players with LDU or Dow and we are looking good.

Yep - the hypothetical though is which of those players, if they slid, would be too good to pass up?

Say St Kilda opt for Higgins instead of Fogarty - is Fogarty a player that we'd abandon other plans (ie. Richards) for? Gut instinct says yes.

Stephenson, on the other hand, we may be happy to pass on even if he were to be overlooked with Picks 5-9.

One thing that should be considered is that if we go for Richards with 10, we should probably be steering clear of Garner at 30. Garner becomes a better option if someone like Fogarty or Clarke gets to us at Pick 10 instead.
 

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