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Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II
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Rowe had limited speed and agility before the knee injury. Next year he will be fortunate to be rookie listed at best.
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Can't wait to see what SOS, Bolts and Co have been working on in the back ground.
Movements (in and out) that haven't even been considered by any media outlets, "experts" etc.
Like Funk being part of any Richmond deal for casbolt
Movements (in and out) that haven't even been considered by any media outlets, "experts" etc.
Like Funk being part of any Richmond deal for casbolt
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Care to explain why? Do you value a particular kid we can take with pick 2 that'll turn out better/equal to Kelly?
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Will cost us too much I like what trigg said about developing our own Kelly and i think raynar will be a great pick 2. We won't get Kelly anyway 1.5 mill at many as too good to pass up... would rather throw that kind of money at a key forward
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That part of the formula, I have no idea. It could be based as yearly or as accumulative total.
It has been reported that Casboult is on $400K a year at the moment and is not in the top 10 at our club, which is roughly outside the top 25%. Then we have all heard the rumours of players like Trengrove being on $750K this year.
Really depends on the length of other player's contracts, payments and whether the rumours of Richmond's offer being true
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Why do you think a key forward should be the priority for a big money player? We have Harry and Charlie, Kerr in development as well and very likely to take Ben Silvagni who will also be a key forward.
Our midfield otoh is decimated and especially if we lose Gibbs and we don't find a seasoned elite mid to replace him we will have another season where we struggle in the bottom 3 on the ladder.
Yeah we have forwards 21 and under. Midfielders are a dime a dozen key forwards are not curnow wont always play forward McKay will will be good but year's off his prime still Kerr is even further behind and how can you put ben silvagni in that when he hasn't even been drafted yet thats just stupid lol i agree with we need mids but look what happened when we gave what we did for judd he was amazing but you can't deny it was a rushed and too soon call
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How long has Byrne been?
Hope you're right but 9 months is more best possible outcome, rather than the norm.
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There was no problem with Judd, the problem was the people around him. If Fevola wasn't a nutcase, we could've very well made the 2011 grand final. Not to mention poor recruiting and club management (bringing in Malthouse).
Midfielders are not a dime a dozen. That's such a shit myth that gets thrown around way too often. When you make that statement, you make it sound like Kelly is a mid therefore players like him are a dime a dozen. Fact is, he is an elite mid who runs both ways. Those types are quite rare and definitely not a dime a dozen.
It's not stupid to suggest Ben will be a part of our forward line. There's an old saying, it goes: "When you can see the city, you don't need a map to it" It's quite obvious we are going to draft him and he is a key forward type of player.
In regards to forwards over 21, we don't need an older forward right now. We are not in contention for a flag next year or even the year after that. The current forwards we have will be hitting their peak when the rest of the group does. When that happens, then we will be in with a shot at a flag. But NOT if we don't address our midfield issues immediately.
It's butts and maybes we traded the farm because we thought we were closer to contending then we were for one player just think it's a better option to pay for players there are less of than for oout heaps for a mid when you could easily get one some other way
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No we didn't trade the farm. We made a fair trade. Pick #3 in 2007 the only 2 players worthy of that pick were Dangerfield and Rance. Except Danger went at #10 and Rance #18. That means a LOT of other clubs passed on them. Kennedy has come good as well all expected, but Judd won a Brownlow and wasn't his fault that we didn't win another flag.
You can't easily get another Josh Kelly. Don't forget Murphy will also be another year older and reaching his end as well.
Why do you exactly need a Josh Kelly? You can way easier get a great midfielder than get a genuine spear head and Josh Kennedy is a forward line in himself judd won a brownlow yes but Kennedy has won morni Coleman medals not gonna argue with you about it just saying we could easily get good midfield depth without throwing that much money at it or using pick 2
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One way or another the AFL will figure out a way for us to not get Band 3. Even introducing a new rule to screw us
Mids, mids and more mids...and a couple of quick defensively minded players, 1 that can snag a goal or two and 1 that can stop goals and provide run.
Only take a KP if it's an absolute no brainer, can't believe they dropped that far kind of pick!!
Only take a KP if it's an absolute no brainer, can't believe they dropped that far kind of pick!!
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I keep reading that our forward line is all set because of the players you have mentioned. Not one of them is at the stage where they are mature and fully developed. I do think Charlie will be something special and McKay looks so far as he has the potential to develop into something good. As far as Kerr goes we have no idea how he will go at senior level yet and Ben is a young player who hasn't played a game of senior football anywhere as far as I know. It's far too early to make a call on them as a collective and don't expect too much from them for the next few years. Charlie and Harry will be approaching their peaks in around three years time, Kerr in 4 and Ben maybe in 6 years. In the meantime we still need a mature, big bodied player to aid these guys in their development and to take some of the heat off them.
In my opinion its much easier and quicker to get a good, functioning midfield than a forward line. The fact is we need both, still a lot of water to go under the bridge before we are strongly challenging.
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Could we get Fev back to help the boys out?
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The sooner we trade our first pick for Kelly the better.
I have had enough of this... He'll look great in Navy Blue.
I have had enough of this... He'll look great in Navy Blue.
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If we get pick 1 this year and Kelly nominates us i would be tempted to give GWS our 2018 first pick. So we keep pick 1 this year and get the best young player and also grab Kelly.
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Ok what about Jezaleunko or Kernahan any interest?
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Maybe the club could nominate Kelly rather than wait for him to nominate us???
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Get a ready made Kelly we pay now but manage later. Draft and develop a Kelly of our own we wait 3/4 years and squeeze out others in their prime. My point is; in this system we can't have them all knocking on the contract door at the same time.
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Yes, but Blues90 was saying that he'd rather splash the cash out on a key forward. For a mature bodied forward to take the heat off the kids, we wouldn't need to spend big money on a player of that type.
Elite midfield will generate premierships. Tell me the last team that won a flag without an elite midfield. I can tell you the Hawks didn't have an elite forward line and neither did the Dogs last year. It's all about the midfield.
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You could have said the same about Marchbank and Pickett?
And Treloar?
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