2017 Trade and FA thread

[jjami15]

Did he play with McCluggage and your avatar at Ballarat and board at the same school?

I think he did, nice.

 

[jackess]

I think he did, nice.

That was the little ray of hope I saw in the article.

 

[BRAB]

Does anyone else think that we might be a genuine chance for Parish? You would have expected him to re-sign by now I would have thought. Obviously still a lot of games left but with every week that goes by the chances of him leaving increases.

I would be surprised if he left. He has explicitly said he'll stay which is usually a weird step for a 2nd year player to take, usually make no comment if there's a genuine decision going on.

Obviously we have the Matho connection, the need for young midfielders and the $$$/draft picks to get things done so if he suddenly decided to leave I think we'd be the club going hard for him.

 

[Milk Steak]

I like seeing this bit in the article about clubs interest in Hopper "The Lions are planning a more aggressive approach to trading and are prepared to put a long term, big money offer on the table".

 

[SizeMatters]

I like seeing this bit in the article about clubs interest in Hopper "The Lions are planning a more aggressive approach to trading and are prepared to put a long term, big money offer on the table".

About time we played aggressive. Instead of paying overs for what we have we should have been targeting highly talented youth from other clubs. Money talks and a massive front loaded contract could tempt some to come up here.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I would be surprised if he left. He has explicitly said he'll stay which is usually a weird step for a 2nd year player to take, usually make no comment if there's a genuine decision going on.

Obviously we have the Matho connection, the need for young midfielders and the $$$/draft picks to get things done so if he suddenly decided to leave I think we'd be the club going hard for him.

Besides pick 1 what would get it done? The Port pick + our second? I can't see us using pick 1 for Parish unless a top 3 pick comes back which seems unlikely

 

[blueiris]

Hopper is too injury prone what would he even cost would GWS expect pick 1

 

[iBeng]

Hopper is too injury prone what would he even cost would GWS expect pick 1

Well Beams has been pretty injury prone too yet we gave up a fair bit for him...

 

[blueiris]

Well Beams has been pretty injury prone too yet we gave up a fair bit for him...

True but that was under a different regimen I honestly think we overpaid for him but he was under contract Hopper isn't

 

[dlanod]

Hopper is too injury prone what would he even cost would GWS expect pick 1

GWS wouldn't be expecting pick 1 for Hopper.

 

[jackess]

GWS wouldn't be expecting pick 1 for Hopper.

Surely Ports pick would be enough. Pick 13-14 would be about right.

 

[M Malice]

GWS wouldn't be expecting pick 1 for Hopper.

We would give up pick 1 for Josh Kelly not Hopper, maybe Hopper + Kennedy?

 

[Fitzroy bears]

Well Beams has been pretty injury prone too yet we gave up a fair bit for him...

Apples v oranges. Beams premiership player and b&f winner when we traded for him. Not to mention he was also contracted.

 

[Caiphus]

The thing about Essendon is they don't trade in good faith with anyone, so it's not like we have bridges to burn by seriously considering the PSD. Judging by what GWS have taken in the past for young players who haven't had a huge look in yet, we could probably get Hopper for a swap of second rounders.

 

[SizeMatters]

Can you trade salary cap? Or does it only work if the opposition player was originally yours and was traded that off season? Fev, Deledio for example

 

[M Malice]

The thing about Essendon is they don't trade in good faith with anyone, so it's not like we have bridges to burn by seriously considering the PSD. Judging by what GWS have taken in the past for young players who haven't had a huge look in yet, we could probably get Hopper for a swap of second rounders.

That would be great and an absolute steal for us, if we got Hopper we wouldn't necessarily need to go LDU with pick 1, just take Rayner.

 

[dlanod]

Surely Ports pick would be enough. Pick 13-14 would be about right.

I'd guess the 10-15 range.

 

[dlanod]

Can you trade salary cap? Or does it only work if the opposition player was originally yours and was traded that off season? Fev, Deledio for example

You can't trade salary cap as such. The closest you can get is paying part of a traded player's contract after they're at the new club, and that's only while their previous contract persists.

 

[SizeMatters]

Pick 1 for Hopper, Kennedy and Himmelberg?

Can't see something so extravagant from happening but it would help both clubs a lot. I know we have a lot of talls but Himmelberg would be best 22 playing alongside Andrews as the twin pillars. He looks good as a defender from the gams I've seen. Probably too much in our favour that trade.

 

[POBT]

Pick 1 for Hopper, Kennedy and Himmelberg?

Can't see something so extravagant from happening but it would help both clubs a lot. I know we have a lot of talls but Himmelberg would be best 22 playing alongside Andrews as the twin pillars. He looks good as a defender from the gams I've seen. Probably too much in our favour that trade.

Would potentially create list space issues.

 

[SizeMatters]

Would potentially create list space issues.

Yeah, I thought of that but we have round 6 OOC players that are likely to get moved on. No idea about Rocky but if he stays on than the potential Cameron trade if it does happen will mean we are over the list space though IIRC...

 

[blueiris]

Pick 1 for Hopper, Kennedy and Himmelberg?

Can't see something so extravagant from happening but it would help both clubs a lot. I know we have a lot of talls but Himmelberg would be best 22 playing alongside Andrews as the twin pillars. He looks good as a defender from the gams I've seen. Probably too much in our favour that trade.

Where exactly would you play Himmelberg? McStay has shown a lot this season wouldn't think he's ahead of him Witherden and Cutler are our running defenders who both look good Robertson has played well as a medium shutdown defender Gardiner also goes okay as the medium defender and than there's the likely future captain Andrews

 

[Hollow Knight]

Where exactly would you play Himmelberg? McStay has shown a lot this season wouldn't think he's ahead of him Witherden and Cutler are our running defenders who both look good Robertson has played well as a medium shutdown defender Gardiner also goes okay as the medium defender and than there's the likely future captain Andrews

And Skinner is banging down the door too.

 

[Dalions]

Where exactly would you play Himmelberg? McStay has shown a lot this season wouldn't think he's ahead of him Witherden and Cutler are our running defenders who both look good Robertson has played well as a medium shutdown defender Gardiner also goes okay as the medium defender and than there's the likely future captain Andrews

He was originally drafted as a forward, he could potentially be a very good third tall option up forward. Not sure who would be second ruck, maybe Schache for a chop out. I think in time, once he builds some size Hippy would make a good second ruck.

 

[SizeMatters]

And Skinner is banging down the door too.

I don't like relying on players who have shown nothing at the top level. I think Skinner has a future besids Andrews but we need real results. Fraught with danger to wait around. What if he does a knee again which is fairly high chance given the tendency for ligaments to be brittle after multiple injuries. Anyways was just a discussion as I don't think something like this would occur.