2018 AFL Crowds & Ratings thread

[Rezza Tiger]

In 16 matches, Richmond averages 28,117 against Fremantle in Melbourne...

Going back too far kind of irrelevant. Last 6 matches in Melbourne since 2012 average 36,704

 

[blaisee]

Was thinking about the Richmond/Lions game.

lol

 

[AstuteTiger]

In 16 matches, Richmond averages 28,117 against Fremantle in Melbourne...

In those 16 matches i guess we were pretty shit theirs ur answer and that you knew. It must of flew over ur head the point i was making...
Richmond still has the 2nd highest attendance V Freo in Melb 43,801 behind pies 45K

 

[wagstaff]

That Adelaide crowd is pretty impressive considering GWS would've brought virtually no support and the Crows had a shocker the previous week.

 

[dave10]

In those 16 matches i guess we were pretty shit theirs ur answer and that you knew. It must of flew over ur head the point i was making...
Richmond still has the 2nd highest attendance V Freo in Melb 43,801 behind pies 45K

Essendon 42,600 at Ethihad last year was as good as both of those I might say.

 

[wagstaff]

Foxtel ratings for Sat matches (Via Mediaweek Twitter):

Eagles v Saints 90k
Hawks v Power 112k
Dogs v Demons 129k
Suns v Cats 207k
Dons v Tigers 219k

Mixed bag there although overall seems a bit below par; would be pretty rare for any AFL match go get sub-100k I reckon.

 

[dave10]

Well despite the generally below average standard of football atm, crowds are holding up well. However I wonder how much the new Perth Stadium is responsible for the growth.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Essendon 42,600 at Ethihad last year was as good as both of those I might say.

Was that the last game of the year? finals spot up for grabs, if so that would get the fans out even more so.
Don't get me wrong great crowd but extra incentive from a fans point of view to support the boys for a finals berth.

 

[dave10]

Foxtel ratings for Sat matches (Via Mediaweek Twitter):

Eagles v Saints 90k
Hawks v Power 112k
Dogs v Demons 129k
Suns v Cats 207k
Dons v Tigers 219k

Mixed bag there although overall seems a bit below par; would be pretty rare for any AFL match go get sub-100k I reckon.

Suns V Cats looks decent... Ablett factor?

 

[wagstaff]

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Well despite the generally below average standard of football atm, crowds are holding up well. However I wonder how much the new Perth Stadium is responsible for the growth.

I reckon if they were still playing at Subiaco overall crowds would be roughly the same as last year (although if Collingwood continued to win that probably guarantee an increase anyway).

 

[dave10]

Was that the last game of the year? finals spot up for grabs, if so that would get the fans out even more so.
Don't get me wrong great crowd but extra incentive from a fans point of view to support the boys for a finals berth.

Yes it was but it also clashed with that huge fight that had some impact as it wasn’t shown live at Ethihad. Point being, fair to say that match probably would’ve given that Collingwood 45K a decent run.

 

[wagstaff]

Suns V Cats looks decent... Ablett factor?

Probably that and also having timeslot to itself compared with the other four matches.

Surprised how low the two Sat afternoon games were, especially as there presumably would've been many Hawks fans in Victoria who couldn't get to the game.

 

[dave10]

Probably that and also having timeslot to itself compared with the other four matches.

Surprised how low the two Sat afternoon games were, especially as there presumably would've been many Hawks fans in Victoria who couldn't get to the game.

I’ve never seen a decent match at Launny.. I mean a match that I recall as being anything other than a dull slugfest. Hard to get excited by any pairing down there. Bullies V Dees I thought could rate better.

 

[dave10]

That Adelaide crowd is pretty impressive considering GWS would've brought virtually no support and the Crows had a shocker the previous week.

Adelaide and West Coast are the two biggest clubs in a single city. But they don’t have the biggest total followings in my view.

 

[Rob]

Foxtel ratings for Sat matches (Via Mediaweek Twitter):

Eagles v Saints 90k
Hawks v Power 112k
Dogs v Demons 129k
Suns v Cats 207k
Dons v Tigers 219k

Mixed bag there although overall seems a bit below par; would be pretty rare for any AFL match go get sub-100k I reckon.

Happens a bit, but it's always a game up against another, usually closer game. Games on 503 tend to rate lower as well.

 

[Our Game]

Well despite the generally below average standard of football atm, crowds are holding up well. However I wonder how much the new Perth Stadium is responsible for the growth.

A lot!

 

[Defabs]

As a Pies fan I would say we are a bit guarded at the moment given we haven’t played finals for 5 years. We know our form has improved considerably but the major test will be against Melbourne on Monday. The crowd next week should be similar to 2006 and if we win that game, then you’ll see the Pie army in full force in the second half of the season.

When Collingwood got 44k against Freo back in 2012, it should be noted we were going for 10 wins in a row and prior to that the only other comparable crowd was on a Friday night in 2007 when we had a year plus of good form going into the game and it was Tarrant’s first against his old club. Apart from those crowds, Freo don’t draw well for us a bit like Port.

 

[____]

I guess it depends on what view you had of level 3. It was strange the way they stacked everybody into about 12 blocks and closed off the rest.

I was at the game thinking that if North pull a crowd like that being in the top six, I could see why the AFL were hellbent on moving them to the Gold Coast, thinking it was a 15k crowd (let's be honest if either Qld team was in the top 6, the crowds would be much bigger than that). I was at the Round 1 game against the Saints and that game looked like it had a lot more people even though it was announced 23k was there.

 

[sverik25]

I was at the game thinking that if North pull a crowd like that being in the top six, I could see why the AFL were hellbent on moving them to the Gold Coast, thinking it was a 15k crowd (let's be honest if either Qld team was in the top 6, the crowds would be much bigger than that). I was at the Round 1 game against the Saints and that game looked like it had a lot more people even though it was announced 23k was there.

Really depends on where you sit at Etihad because there are nuances about the way the crowd is dispersed, particularly for smaller games that can make it hard to judge. For example, the broadcast side of the ground is often much emptier than the city side of the ground, since the home members reserved seats are on the city side and more GA patrons generally sit on that side as well since it is a bit more accessible.

 

[wagstaff]

Going by the Fox Footy ratings (Via TV Tonight & the Mediaweek twitter feed), the average match rating this week was 161k, which is lower than the season average of 169k. And this is factoring in that average Pay-TV ratings are well down on last year's 196k (going by what The Wookie posted).

I guess if there's a good time to have such a slump, it would be in the 2nd year of a 6 year deal. But they'd want things to stabilise next year.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Underarm]

Perth could pass Docklands by the end of the year...

 

[Rezza Tiger]

Halfway through the season already and Tigers have hit 652K so right on track for 1.3M. A great achievement so far with poor weather, a mothers day fixture and some patchy form. Interestingly most of our MCG crowds have been under MCG predictions.

Attendances for the halfway point of the season

 

[sverik25]

Now that we're pretty much at the half-way point of the season it's a good time to see how the clubs are tracking crowds-wise compared to their historical averages since 2000 for the matches so far. As usual, if the exact match-up at a given venue hasn't occurred before I've tried to find the most suitable comparison. Obviously for the Perth teams the best comparison is with Subiaco, which probably doesn't have that much value, so you might want to take Fremantle and West Coast's figures with a grain of salt.

The figures I'll give are the average difference between the actual crowd and the historical average for each club in bold, and the difference for each home match beginning with R1 in brackets. The specific match-ups that haven't occurred before, and where I've therefore used a less accurate comparison, are marked with an asterisk.

Adelaide: -545 (-472; -4,537; -557; 5,886*; -2,541; -1,047)

Brisbane: -7,676 (-5,646; -6,429; -10,267; -8,044; -7,996)

Carlton: -1,651 (20; -708; 1,511; -14,544; 5,467)

Collingwood: -483 (-7,100; 16,604; 10,849; -21,054; 398; -2,597)

Essendon: 2,569 (7,931; -3,213; -6,139; -3,091; 280; 19,646)

Fremantle: 11,157 (15,751*; 10,924*; 16,060*; 9,694*; 3,357*)

Geelong: 1,144 (2,959; 4,357; 6,327; 1,967; -9,891*)

Gold Coast: -1,763 (-5,545*; 2,016*; -6,051; 571; 192)

GWS: 218 (911; 961*; 967; -1,567; -184)

Hawthorn: -4,108 (-4,857; 1,542; -1,804; -12,175; -4,490; -2,865)

Melbourne: 14,076 (11,857; 6,900; 35,743; 1,804*)

North Melbourne: -1,818 (3,124; 1,354*; -5,809; -289; -7,520; -2,749; -834)

Port Adelaide: 390 (143; 2,896; -656; -822)

Richmond: 14,132 (25,845; 24,989; 2,271; 14,325; 3,229)

St Kilda: -7,782 (-8,308; -8,969; -4,639; -5,039; -11,953)

Sydney: 3,578 (7,368; 4,037; 9,396; 1,438; 3,012; -3,783)

West Coast: 17,569 (16,597*; 18,542*; 18,708*; 14,526*; 19,407*; 17,634*)

Western Bulldogs: -390 (-1,709; 689; 1,231; 1,629; -3,254*; -3,361; 2,042)

Overall we have 9 clubs higher and 9 clubs lower than their historical averages, although if you exclude the WA teams it becomes 7 and 9 respectively. The strong positive figures from West Coast and Fremantle, coupled with those of Melbourne and Richmond, seem likely to drive what will probably be a small crowd growth this year.

Looking ahead, Collingwood have the best chance of any club to enter the positive, although this seems unlikely because their upcoming home games have traditionally drawn exceptionally well and it would therefore take unexpectedly good crowds to better their historical averages. Port Adelaide should remain ahead of the ledger with a few blockbusters to come, while GWS could go either way. Essendon will almost certainly slip into the negative, and Adelaide will have trouble making up its deficit. Brisbane and St Kilda are once again showing that they probably aren't the drawcards they once were, even though both are languishing at the bottom of the ladder.

 

[The_Wookie]

Halfway through the season already and Tigers have hit 652K so right on track for 1.3M. A great achievement so far with poor weather, a mothers day fixture and some patchy form. Interestingly most of our MCG crowds have been under MCG predictions.

Attendances for the halfway point of the season

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How is it always Richmond folks who trot out H&A combined figures.