List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Day Thread

[TiAn_]

Swans basically downgraded their 2nd round pick next year to Eagles 3rd round pick to keep their 2nd round pick this year.

We could do the same, by trading 30, as 35 and 42 will cover any bid for West from here.

For example, woule people be happy to trade 30 for GWS’s 3rd next year, take West with 35 and 42 and then trade our 2nd next year for 28?

 

[footyfan000001]

I would have just taken both of the Kings had I been Gold Coast. Max with Pick 3.

And downgraded pick 2 for 5 and 10. Lukosius and Rankine seem like big risks to go home. At least with the Kings you would be pretty confident that the pair of them will want to play their entire careers together.

Rankine and Lukosius won’t last 5 seasons. Either of them.

I agree. Unless something drastically changes at the Suns and they draft more SA boys.

Rankine seems the big problem for me. I would have taken Max King with 2 and then tried to trade 3 for a couple more picks in the top 12.

 

[josh the gent]

Missed it all.

So no trades at all??

Power has 24 hours to land that pick. Get it done.

The trick was Sydney’s timing. Traded out pick 26 before the bid for Blakey, then traded in pick 24 after he was picked.

So Power has 2 trades to get done...

As soon as first round is finished, to trade pick 30 out for a 2019 second rounder, then to trade back to next selection after West is bid upon.

 

[Whoyagot]

https://bit.ly/2PMXEaC Head talent saying we tried to live trade at the back end of the first round but it didn’t pan out. Glad to get Smith I guess

 

[_M_16_]

https://bit.ly/2PMXEaC Head talent saying we tried to live trade at the back end of the first round but it didn’t pan out. Glad to get Smith I guess

Wonder who our target would have been.

 

[TiAn_]

https://bit.ly/2PMXEaC Head talent saying we tried to live trade at the back end of the first round but it didn’t pan out. Glad to get Smith I guess

How’s the dark eyes!? Few sleepless nights.

Interesting that he says they were trying to work some trades as the back end of the night. Makes me think we’re trying to do what Sydney did.

E.g.

If we trade out 30 temporarily and use 35 and 42 on West, we’ll get back a pick in the 40s as change, which we can use on Khamis.

Then future 2nd for 28.

Take 28, get Khamis in the 40s, upgrade Gowers and Lynch.

The cost is downgrading our second next year to someone’s third.

The alternative is to take West with 30, but then we’ll end up using 42 on an upgrade.

I’m sure there are plenty of other variations that could work.

 

[Pugz89]

Wonder who our target would have been.

O'Halloran

 

[Antares]

I would have just taken both of the Kings had I been Gold Coast. Max with Pick 3.

And downgraded pick 2 for 5 and 10. Lukosius and Rankine seem like big risks to go home. At least with the Kings you would be pretty confident that the pair of them will want to play their entire careers together.

Rankine and Lukosius won’t last 5 seasons. Either of them.

Lol, what a garbage post. You don't know a single thing about any of these boys, let alone what they'll do in the future.

 

[Pugz89]

https://bit.ly/2PMXEaC Head talent saying we tried to live trade at the back end of the first round but it didn’t pan out. Glad to get Smith I guess

Geez those bags under his eyes don't look great. Has he slept in the past week!?

 

[Antares]

Geez those bags under his eyes don't look great. Has he slept in the past week!?

Looks like a black eye from a fight. Things must've been getting pretty heated in our recruiting room.

 

[Dogsman16]

Lol, what a garbage post. You don't know a single thing about any of these boys, let alone what they'll do in the future.

Your right I don’t know what they will do in the future.

But what I do know is that Gold Coast have a horrendous history of losing star players and high end draft picks early in there careers.

Gold Coast can hardly sell much to young players. Horrendous player retention, no winning culture and many many off field issues in there short history.

But what they had the chance to do was to sell two young top 6 prospects their absolute dream which was as brothers to play their entire career together. They really didn’t even need to reach with any of there picks but simply take Max one selection higher.

All 3 of those top 6 selections look extremely susceptible to being poached in 2 years time. Would have been pretty difficult to pry either of the Kings out had they been on the same list though.

Personally believe they should have traded pick 2 for 5 and 10 (if port agree) and taken Rozee and Caldwell instead of Rankine.

 

[DelRe]

Smith and West son - sounds like a gun combination.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Geez those bags under his eyes don't look great. Has he slept in the past week!?

The stark lighting makes them both look like extras waiting to shoot a scene of The Walking Dead.

 

[TiAn_]

Two scenarios of questionable benefit to the other team:

30 -> Suns
Dogs <- Tigers future 3rd

Take West

Dogs future 3rd -> Suns
27 <- Dogs

Or

30 -> Swans
Dogs <- Eagles future 3rd

Take West

Dogs future 3rd -> Swans
Dogs <- 25

 

[TiAn_]

The Eagles also might consider downgrading 29 to 30 if we upgrade the Saints future 4th to the Hawks future 3rd.

 

[TiAn_]

I’m really just hoping someone from our recruiting team reads my posts tbh

Check BF you bastards! I have all the ideas!

 

[Antares]

Your right I don’t know what they will do in the future.

But what I do know is that Gold Coast have a horrendous history of losing star players and high end draft picks early in there careers.

Gold Coast can hardly sell much to young players. Horrendous player retention, no winning culture and many many off field issues in there short history.

But what they had the chance to do was to sell two young top 6 prospects their absolute dream which was as brothers to play their entire career together. They really didn’t even need to reach with any of there picks but simply take Max one selection higher.

All 3 of those top 6 selections look extremely susceptible to being poached in 2 years time. Would have been pretty difficult to pry either of the Kings out had they been on the same list though.

Personally believe they should have traded pick 2 for 5 and 10 (if port agree) and taken Rozee and Caldwell instead of Rankine.

How many South Australians have the Gold Coast lost against their will? It rounds up to around about 0.

How many Victorians have the Gold Coast lost against their will? A lot, in the double digits.

Here you are saying they should've compromised the balance of their list by drafting two 202cm Victorian KPPs, on top of all the other KPPs they've brought in through trades and priority access, as opposed to simply selecting the best two available players, which is exactly what they did.

You know the main reason for most of Gold Coast's player departures? Lack of success over a long period of time. Guys like Tom Lynch, Steven May, Dion Prestia only left after spending 6-8 years at the club. Here you are claiming Lukosius and Rankine "won't last 5 seasons" - crock of shit.

 

[doggies ftw]

Wtf are you doing power. Hurry up and snare some more picks

Before the draft you didnt want to trade 7 for 9 and 19 lol. ****ing power!!!

 

[Dogsman16]

How many South Australians have the Gold Coast lost against their will? It rounds up to around about 0.

How many Victorians have the Gold Coast lost against their will? A lot, in the double digits.

Here you are saying they should've compromised the balance of their list by drafting two 202cm Victorian KPPs, on top of all the other KPPs they've brought in through trades and priority access, as opposed to simply selecting the best two available players, which is exactly what they did.

You know the main reason for most of Gold Coast's player departures? Lack of success over a long period of time. Guys like Tom Lynch, Steven May, Dion Prestia only left after spending 6-8 years at the club. Here you are claiming Lukosius and Rankine "won't last 5 seasons" - crock of shit.

Day, Lemmens, Wigg and Ballard are the only South Australians on there list. None of them you would consider big names that clubs would go after.

Not to mention the Kings are more athletic than the standard 202cm player. Because of that Max king instead of Lukosius would hardly be throwing the balance of the list out.

Also could include Caddy, O’Meara, Dixon, Kolodjashnij, as players who lasted 5 or less seasons.

Personally think GCS could lose at least 2/3 of their top 6 selections in the next 5 years. Only time will tell.

 

[Antares]

Day, Lemmens, Wigg and Ballard are the only South Australians on there list. None of them you would consider big names that clubs would go after.

So? At the end of the day, that fact doesn't help your case.

Not to mention the Kings are more athletic than the standard 202cm player. Because of that Max king instead of Lukosius would hardly be throwing the balance of the list out.

Except Lukosius is better and more versatile than Max King, and hasn't torn his ACL. He also has some of the best running capacity among all the draftees, whereas endurance was already a weakness for King before his ACL.

Also could include Caddy, O’Meara, Dixon, Kolodjashnij, as players who lasted 5 or less seasons.

No? Dixon was literally the first player to sign for the club, and stayed there for 8 seasons.
Also they're an expansion team that signed a high volume of young players, they were never going to keep them all. GWS have the exact same problem.

Personally think GCS could lose at least 2/3 of their top 6 selections in the next 5 years. Only time will tell.

So could literally every other club, including us.

 

[TiAn_]

If a bid for West doesn’t come until Melbourne at 26, as expected, we can match that with pick 35, and pick 42 will stay where it is.

Ultimately, unless the bid for West comes earlier than 26, all of the moves I’ve suggested are so we can use 30 (or a pick or two earlier) instead of 35, which isn’t exactly life or death. But if we can do it for a small sacrifice of later picks, we should.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Without looking it up, I would have guessed that Brisbane's retention of young players selected with good draft picks heading to another club has been worse than Gold Coast's over the last 3-4 years.

 

[doggies ftw]

We know that GWS' offer wasnt good enough for us to trade pre draft and it obviously wasnt good enough for us to trade during the draft either. Love the heat Powers copping for not trading when the majority of this board have been so against it for the last month. Without the full details on what was actually on the table how can you possibly judge?

I guess I've gotta convince myself to love Smith now, still not sold though. At the very least our midfield is going to be ****ing tough. Please find a way to get Hill now

 

[Antares]

Without looking it up, I would have guessed that Brisbane's retention of young players selected with good draft picks heading to another club has been worse than Gold Coast's over the last 3-4 years.

Brisbane's hasn't been that bad either. They had that one bad period where they lost Yeo, Docherty, Polec and Longer in the same window, which skewed a lot of peoples' perception of their capacity to retain players. The reality is, quality young players being traded in the early stages of their career is a lot rarer than people think.

 

[BevoRambo]

Jai Bolton. Couple of wafl league best and fairests. Victorian originally. 26 and has edge.

Surely worth a late pick punt...


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