List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 2

[VDS66]

3X all aus player potentially incoming. don't want him personally think he's pretty cooked but he's certainly getable as his current club would like him off the books to set up other potential moves for themselves and he's at the top of our list atm, got a year left to run on his deal so would have to trade him in.

Mayne?

 

[Mowman]

He might as well collect the cheque, oh well, he can keep Freeman company in the rehab any way. His body makes Armo look youthful.

Now your talking Hanbebery - Armo - Dunstan slow inside mids TICK have that covered.
Wouldn't question his professionalism, but i would question the clubs professionalism if we get another slow inside mid.
Cant blame him for topping his super up

 

[VDS66]

If he could Sydney would keep him. We are a stupid club. Watch next years second or first go on him and he'll have a worse output than Dunstan. The AFL should take us over and move us now before they torture us any more. Send us to Tassie and rip the bandaid off quickly.

Well received / handled

 

[gringo2011]

Well received / handled

I'll handle you if you're not careful

 

[NarklesHelmet]

You’d get him to the club just to lift standards on the training track & start giving some proper feedback to a few of the lazy campaigners around the club. Knowing our luck, he’ll see us as topping up his super & give two shits about footy.

Yeah, you'd reckon that's the thinking behind it with the leadership he'd bring etc. If he re-discovers his form then it could look a great move and we'd be getting from him what we would have from Sloane. He would obviously not want to cost much either but hard to see them demanding too much considering his recent injuries, we'd be "buying low" for sure.

There are a couple of concerns with him though:

1. He's a pretty big ball-butcher. Ideally we wouldn't be adding anymore of those
2. His body. Having him and "Dave" on the list with suspect bodies is far from ideal, that's a couple of list places right there potentially not used for a lot of the season going by their past couple of years.

Lethlean will no doubt know him and his dad well with the Old Xavs connection so will know what he can bring to the table. If he thinks he is what we need we'll just have to back him in and keep our fingers crossed because, while there is risk to it, if it works the trade does have some upside for sure.

 

[VDS66]

I'll handle you if you're not careful

Yeah and I'll send my Gay sister to sort you out...

 

[Mowman]

Yeah, you'd reckon that's the thinking behind it with the leadership he'd bring etc. If he re-discovers his form then it could look a great move and we'd be getting from him what we would have from Sloane. He would obviously not want to cost much either but hard to see them demanding too much considering his recent injuries, we'd be "buying low" for sure.

Their are a couple of concerns with him though:

1. He's a pretty big ball-butcher. Ideally we wouldn't be adding anymore of those
2. His body. Having him and "Dave" on the list with suspect bodies is far from ideal, that's a couple of list places right there potentially not used for a lot of the season going by their past couple of years.

Lethlean will no doubt know him and his dad well with the Old Xavs connection so will know what he can bring to the table. If he thinks he is what we need we'll just have to back him in and keep our fingers crossed because, while there is risk to it, if it works the trade does have some upside for sure.

Armo is contracted for next year ?
If we move Dunstan and Armo on then it would be worth the risk with his body coming good.
Will be very interesting couple of months seeing who stays and who goes

 

[VDS66]

Yeah, you'd reckon that's the thinking behind it with the leadership he'd bring etc. If he re-discovers his form then it could look a great move and we'd be getting from him what we would have from Sloane. He would obviously not want to cost much either but hard to see them demanding too much considering his recent injuries, we'd be "buying low" for sure.

Their are a couple of concerns with him though:

1. He's a pretty big ball-butcher. Ideally we wouldn't be adding anymore of those
2. His body. Having him and "Dave" on the list with suspect bodies is far from ideal, that's a couple of list places right there potentially not used for a lot of the season going by their past couple of years.

Lethlean will no doubt know him and his dad well with the Old Xavs connection so will know what he can bring to the table. If he thinks he is what we need we'll just have to back him in and keep our fingers crossed because, while there is risk to it, if it works the trade does have some upside for sure.

At the right price and if you could get 15 games out of him, it makes sense.

Gives us a decent stop gap leader and Captain until Gresh is ready.

 

[gringo2011]

Yeah and I'll send my Gay sister to sort you out...

I like them dykie, as long as there is lots of furniture handy.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

Armo is contracted for next year ?
If we move Dunstan and Armo on then it would be worth the risk with his body coming good.
Will be very interesting couple of months seeing who stays and who goes

Yeah, pretty sure "Dave" is contracted for another year, could be wrong....he did pretty well getting a contract extension when he did.

 

[gringo2011]

Yeah, you'd reckon that's the thinking behind it with the leadership he'd bring etc. If he re-discovers his form then it could look a great move and we'd be getting from him what we would have from Sloane. He would obviously not want to cost much either but hard to see them demanding too much considering his recent injuries, we'd be "buying low" for sure.

There are a couple of concerns with him though:

1. He's a pretty big ball-butcher. Ideally we wouldn't be adding anymore of those
2. His body. Having him and "Dave" on the list with suspect bodies is far from ideal, that's a couple of list places right there potentially not used for a lot of the season going by their past couple of years.

Lethlean will no doubt know him and his dad well with the Old Xavs connection so will know what he can bring to the table. If he thinks he is what we need we'll just have to back him in and keep our fingers crossed because, while there is risk to it, if it works the trade does have some upside for sure.

It sounds like the most dumb arse thing I could imagine. He's exactly not what we need and not got much footy left.

 

[VDS66]

I like them dykie, as long as there is lots of furniture handy.

Best story ever!

 

[StCicatriz]

Form no to hanners from me. There's more than just body issues and if Sydney are moving him when their midfield is a bit meh then it screams cutting whilst he still has value.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

At the right price and if you could get 15 games out of him, it makes sense.

Gives us a decent stop gap leader and Captain until Gresh is ready.

Yeah exactly, just reading the thread in him in the Sydney board and a couple of posters bemoaning that a club could get him now and be "buying low" when he is at his worst. He gets his body right and we'd be making out pretty well, not to mention the leadership a premiership player brings.

It's one of those trades that has potential to backfire though if he breaks down so the price just has to be low to mitigate our risk on that front.There's enough upside there to explore it though no doubt.

 

[gringo2011]

Yeah exactly, just reading the thread in him in the Sydney board and a couple of posters bemoaning that a club could get him now and be "buying low" when he is at his worst. He gets his body right and we'd be making out pretty well, not to mention the leadership a premiership player brings.

It's one of those trades that has potential to backfire though if he breaks down so the price just has to be low to mitigate our risk on that front.There's enough upside there to explore it though no doubt.

To me even Freeman was a mistake. I just don't see how it's been a good investment. Taking places up takes away a chance of getting a Luke Parker type late in the draft and at worst these kind of contracts meant we kept players who were shit and shunted some who were still promising.

He might come good but in reality he will cost $600,000 a year and be lucky to play a game. He'll want 3 years to make it worth his while. He's so bad this year he is actually a liability in a way that if people complain about our players now they will be shocked how shit he is.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

To me even Freeman was a mistake. I just don't see how it's been a good investment. Taking places up takes away a chance of getting a Luke Parker type late in the draft and at worst these kind of contracts meant we kept players who were shit and shunted some who were still promising.

He might come good but in reality he will cost $600,000 a year and be lucky to play a game. He'll want 3 years to make it worth his while. He's so bad this year he is actually a liability in a way that if people complain about our players now they will be shocked how shit he is.

Honestly, it looks like Lethlean has identified on-field leadership as a massive problem so a player like Hannebery he would see as being worth looking into, but it is just a rumor at this stage of course. I mentioned in my first post that a concern with the move would be the list management side of it, especially when we are carrying a suspect Dave right now as well..... plus they are both mids.

For me, the move would come down to cost. If it's really low, then you'd have to consider it with our dearth of leadership, even with the risks it brings. Definite backfire potential though no doubt!

 

[Saintos The ITK]

No more project players please.

 

[VDS66]

Honestly, it looks like Lethlean has identified on-field leadership as a massive problem so a player like Hannebery he would see as being worth looking into, but it is just a rumor at this stage of course. I mentioned in my first post that a concern with the move would be the list management side of it, especially when we are carrying a suspect Dave right now as well..... plus they are both mids.

For me, the move would come down to cost. If it's really low, then you'd have to consider it with our dearth of leadership, even with the risks it brings. Definite backfire potential though no doubt!

The added bonus is that the rumour will keep this thread on track for at least 10 pages. YAY!

 

[VDS66]

To me even Freeman was a mistake. I just don't see how it's been a good investment. Taking places up takes away a chance of getting a Luke Parker type late in the draft and at worst these kind of contracts meant we kept players who were shit and shunted some who were still promising.

He might come good but in reality he will cost $600,000 a year and be lucky to play a game. He'll want 3 years to make it worth his while. He's so bad this year he is actually a liability in a way that if people complain about our players now they will be shocked how shit he is.

And yet you're happy to invest in Aaron Hall...

 

[maanco]

Could be wrong but i think Hannebery has a strike or 2 from the AFL for having too much fun. Although this was when he was younger.

 

[maanco]

We are 100% missing Leadership, had a discussion with a few people on Friday night, and Geary is by far the worst captain from a football sense. Not like we can change it up either. I highly doubt we could trade a captain in either the players at the club need to give/gain respect first.

 

[Impatient Saint]

Can I ask what injury Hannebrey is dealing with?

 

[bird_man]

Can I ask what injury Hannebrey is dealing with?

Sydney have denied any real injury as far as I know, but he didn't do a pre season because of a groin injury. The club said he was just building his fitness but it seems obvious the way he covers the ground now there is something not right. He's usually one of the best runners in the game.

He is out at the moment with a calf though I think?

 

[triggering bro]

Can I ask what injury Hannebrey is dealing with?

Similar calf injury to Harley Bennel?

 

[bird_man]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...-s-happened-to-hannebery-20180704-p4zpd2.html

The experts are stunned with how far Hannebery, 27, the youngest Swan to reach 200 games for the club, has dropped off.

One theory for the slump is that the Swans' crash and bash style has taken its toll on Hannebery, whose slight frame is not suited to his rugged approach. The club disagrees.

Some, like former Melbourne great Garry Lyon, believe he is injured. One opposition scout has told Fairfax Media he believes Hannebery's inability to change direction and get out of contests are telltale signs of a significant groin injury.

The Swans, however, are adamant Hannebery, who is contracted through to the end of 2021, is not injured but accept the groin issue he carried last year has played a part in the star on-baller's reduced output.