List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[robo_1]

This trade radio makes me sick how they argue it’s up to Sydney to come up with the right deal to get Daniher out of the bombers but freo should’ve just accepted pick 6 and future 3rd for Hill

 

[Mini GF]

Dwayne Russell And Barlow r on trade radio for the next two hours with their famous “I’m afraid to offend anyone in Victoria so I’ll be a coward and attack the Gold Coast” Show.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

Surely we can find someone better than a 29 year old delisted player who has had mental health issues?

Please don't take this the wrong way, but that's an awful thing to say.

There are 2 main types - an 'ongoing' issue, drugs, alcohol,psychosis,severe depression anxiety etc.
These require long term treatment and as such, then yes, it would significantly affect a players performance.
The other is 'situational' - it could be a relationship break up, an illness to a loved one, or even a death in the family.
The fact that Matthew Broadbent only took 4 weeks leave suggests it was the latter. Medication to help sleep,counselling and a break are generally enough to start the 'mending' process the brain needs.
He has played decent football since his return, and with the time in the off-season, more counselling (if needed) and a break, he should be ok.
If anything,a move to sunnier new climes may be the best for him.
To reject someone because they have mental health issues is something I had hoped society had moved on from.
It's an illness of the brain, as much as a tear is an injury to a muscle. Both can be fixed and stay fixed with the right treatment and approach.

The guy can still play at the highest level, is free, and would probably welcome a change of scene.

To condemn him due to a short-term mental health issue is very backward looking and does you no favours IMHO.

Again I mean you no offence.

If he is on the road to a full recovery - he is in our best 22, and has 2 yrs at least in him.

At least have a conversation and see where things stand.

 

[Jirik13]

he is in our best 22

As I understand priority this year is to get mature players who will be in our best 22. In my opinion he is not with a healthy list.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

Interesting from Graham Wright on radio just now:

• "No update on Pittonet. We’re keen for him to stay but he hasn’t signed the contract. Didn’t think he was down the pecking order – thought he could challenge for the number one ruck position with a good preseason.
• Coaching group is keen for McEvoy to play as a defender with Ceglar the number one ruckman."

Means Pittonet is gettable - I did wonder why Clarko played BBM as full-back last 3 games. Now I know. McEvoy,Frawley,Frost - thats a tall back line + Sicilly,Scrimshaw and Hardwick (with Burgoyne as cover)

Is Stratton now surplus? Captain to trade material in one season - mind you Clarkson has form for being ruthless - Birchall on the Rookie List!

WE need a back-up and we have picks - I have seen Pittonet play - aggressive, decent tap, but doesn't cover the ground quickly - most definately needs ro work on his tank. O'Reilly at Adelaide did just that, so Pittonet could as well.
Got to be better than Smith surely.
Plus Hawks needs points for that McGuinness kid they want.

Stratton is a no from me (his form dropped off badly + 'pinchgate') - prefer Broadbent who is 2 yrs younger.

Well worth a call and a very late pick for Pittonet.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

As I understand priority this year is to get mature players who will be in our best 22. In my opinion he is not with a healthy list.

I'd go (if fit):

Ballard Thompson Hombsch
Broadbent Collins Harbrow

(Burgess and Hanley as needed) - totally respect your opinion though.

 

[eighties]

I quite liked Burgess in the backline at the end of last season.... He did some nice things and has a really penetrating field kick. I think he would look decent with a full strength backline around him.

 

[kreglze]

Burgess is a better 3rd defender than manning up one of the monsters.

We have a lot of competition for that 3rd tall defender...

Burgess
Ballard
Hombsch

 

[The Victorian]

What annoyed me was when Dwayne introduced Barlow and only said Fremantle Star.... lets not forget he played a couple of good seasons at the Suns and as I keep on saying, he did a great job connecting with the fans and was a great person. It was just a shame that he was out of favour with Dew as opposed to Rocket.

 

[TheSunGod]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but that's an awful thing to say.

There are 2 main types - an 'ongoing' issue, drugs, alcohol,psychosis,severe depression anxiety etc.
These require long term treatment and as such, then yes, it would significantly affect a players performance.
The other is 'situational' - it could be a relationship break up, an illness to a loved one, or even a death in the family.
The fact that Matthew Broadbent only took 4 weeks leave suggests it was the latter. Medication to help sleep,counselling and a break are generally enough to start the 'mending' process the brain needs.
He has played decent football since his return, and with the time in the off-season, more counselling (if needed) and a break, he should be ok.
If anything,a move to sunnier new climes may be the best for him.
To reject someone because they have mental health issues is something I had hoped society had moved on from.
It's an illness of the brain, as much as a tear is an injury to a muscle. Both can be fixed and stay fixed with the right treatment and approach.

The guy can still play at the highest level, is free, and would probably welcome a change of scene.

To condemn him due to a short-term mental health issue is very backward looking and does you no favours IMHO.

Again I mean you no offence.

If he is on the road to a full recovery - he is in our best 22, and has 2 yrs at least in him.

At least have a conversation and see where things stand.

Mate it wasn’t intended to offend. Living and supporting two immediate family members with severe mental health issues (and I mean one deemed totally incurable / home bound, and the other on lifelong medication to allow her to function in society) I think I’ve experienced more than 99% of the population the effects mental illness can have on the family and workplace.
If it was the latter as you suggest then all well and good but I think as a young club we can do better and find a better player more in the age bracket we’re after.

 

[Sun Stormer]

I'd go (if fit):

Ballard Thompson Hombsch
Broadbent Collins Harbrow

(Burgess and Hanley as needed) - totally respect your opinion though.

Hanley way before Broadbent.....

 

[Mini GF]

Barlow just said Martin is worth a first round pick.
Can you guys in here stop being hypnotised by the VFL Echo Chamber Media and talk up what we have?
Martin 6-10
Ah Chee 19-23

 

[Jen2310]

First round pick, yes but not top 10, so probably on the other side of the first round.

 

[Mini GF]

First round pick, yes but not top 10, so probably on the other side of the first round.

Because of the PP and the Giants Academy player I’ll adjust it just for you this one time
8-12

 

[OB11]

Dwayne Russell And Barlow r on trade radio for the next two hours with their famous “I’m afraid to offend anyone in Victoria so I’ll be a coward and attack the Gold Coast” Show.

They would be like pigs in shit laying the boots in. Some real haters there (Dwayne is ignorant and Barlow is still salty).

 

[GcSunsfan]

One trade scenario that would secure Martin would involve the Blues handing over their first-round selection next year and Gold Coast handing over a second-round pick in return.

Carlton could back itself to rise up the ladder so would secure Martin for what is effectively a shuffle of about 10 picks back down the order.

Adelaide and Gold Coast have made little progress so far on a deal for Hugh Greenwood, with the Crows asking for the Suns’ pick 20 for the inside midfielder.

The Suns won’t hand over a pick of that quality given the Crows didn’t want to offer more than two years for Greenwood.

Similarly, Brisbane is baulking at handing over pick 21 for Gold Coast’s Callum Ah Chee after he nominated the Lions for a trade.

 

[Ben Drever]

I rate it.

As much as I want to know ASAP what’s going on and what we have.
I’d rather not know we got bent over backwards again

 

[Cochblocked]

So could be Ah Chee for Greenwood and downgrade by 1 pick.

 

[Mini GF]

I’m unhappy at the other clubs, all 3 in fact. Not us.

 

[Ben Drever]

I’m thinking clubs might be trying to bend us over knowing we got all these priority picks for nothing.

 

[kreglze]

The issue with Greenwood is going to be, now that there has been a clean out at Adelaide. He could very well change his mind and decide to stay in SA, they could just offer him the 3rd year he wants. Would make us look like right idiots if he bails now, more draftees are going to do nothing for us.

Also disappointing with the lack of us chasing anymore targets. If we leave this trade period with just Greenwood and Ellis it has been a failure IMO.

 

[Cochblocked]

The issue with Greenwood is going to be, now that there has been a clean out at adelaide. He could very well change his mind and decide to stay in SA, they could just offer him the 3rd year he wants. Would make us look like right idiots if he bails now, more draftees are going to do nothing for us.

He's too far gone

 

[OB11]

The beauty with what Freo is doing is that clubs will know they have to pay up big time if they come hunting their players. We need to be very firm with Jack Martin or the suitors for King and Lukosius will think we will cave for a half eaten pastie.

 

[Mini GF]

The issue with Greenwood is going to be, now that there has been a clean out at Adelaide. He could very well change his mind and decide to stay in SA, they could just offer him the 3rd year he wants. Would make us look like right idiots if he bails now, more draftees are going to do nothing for us.

Also disappointing with the lack of us chasing anymore targets. If we leave this trade period with just Greenwood and Ellis it has been a failure IMO.

I’m more than happy for us to use our picks to draft talented and ambitious young men rather than frivolously give in to other clubs.

 

[Jen2310]

Greenwood will get done. Clubs are just posturing at the moment. But Mon-wed will be a lot busier, and more deals will go down.