Play Nice 2019 Non AFL Admin, Crowds, Ratings, Participation etc thread

[Gigantor]

Well I take my hat off to Gallop, he absolutely took Fox to the cleaners with the last T.V rights.

That's the big take away from all of this. Fox got sucked in a beauty...and there were no other bidders! Zero competitive tension!

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

Anyone who flicked over to the soccer last night would realise how bloody well GWS are actually doing in a hostile market. There would’ve been lucky to be 3,000 ppl at the WSW game, in a sport with probably 10 times the support football has in that area. The AFL and GWS cop a lot of flack but they have done bloody well to engage with the litttle support football does have in that area.

I work with some Wanderers fans and it's an interesting comparison. I'm not sure how true it is all A league clubs but there are cliques if supporters who are organised and hate each other.
When the Wanderers were doing well I've seen them take over all the pubs in Parramatta with queues of fans packing out each one. One Friday night we had to travel to the Leagues club to get a drink after work.

Our crowd is all families with the yobbo element owned by the wanderers and NRL. I think that might be permanent. Spotless is a lot of mums and dads taking their kids to the footy.

 

[Kwality]

See Union had something positive for a change, the Sydney Sevens
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...s/news-story/3636d85083f91cca6aa6389a9215e9ae
After a quiet turnout on day one on Friday, the crowds returned on the weekend with 19,000 coming through the gates on Saturday and close to a sellout on Sunday.

No cigar on field.

 

[Kwality]

The Womens Final at the Aus Open pulled 20m viewers in Japan, will have Tennis Aus salivating.

https://mediaweek.com.au/australian-open-sets-new-global-audience-records-20m-in-japan/

“Achieving a 20 million viewership on TV for any program, in this age of media disruption, is extraordinary and an indication of how passionate the fans are about their local heroes. To put it into further context, the women’s final was watched by more than double the average numbers of Japan’s most watched weekly programs.”

 

[Our Game]

The Womens Final at the Aus Open pulled 20m viewers in Japan, will have Tennis Aus salivating.

https://mediaweek.com.au/australian-open-sets-new-global-audience-records-20m-in-japan/

“Achieving a 20 million viewership on TV for any program, in this age of media disruption, is extraordinary and an indication of how passionate the fans are about their local heroes. To put it into further context, the women’s final was watched by more than double the average numbers of Japan’s most watched weekly programs.”

Great for the promotion of Melbourne/Victoria to Japanese tourists as well.Would be worth millions in PR dollars.

 

[BobbyMorri]

When Li Na made the 5 or so years ago, the same thing sort of thing happened in China IIRC.

The Australian Open would be the biggest annual world sporting event in Australia. There are always loads of tourists at Melbourne Park for the 2 weeks of the tournament. Would love to see how much money the government claims it brings in to Victoria. It is something Australia can't ever afford to lose.

 

[Our Game]

When Li Na made the 5 or so years ago, the same thing sort of thing happened in China IIRC.

The Australian Open would be the biggest annual world sporting event in Australia. There are always loads of tourists at Melbourne Park for the 2 weeks of the tournament. Would love to see how much money the government claims it brings in to Victoria. It is something Australia can't ever afford to lose.

Last year 2018 it was estimated to bring in $280 million plus the massive PR boost it gives to Melbourne/Victoria Most likely more for the 2019 AO you would think.
One of my daughters worked in the Hotel industry up untill recently and the AO was the always busiest time of the year for bookings esp from overseas visitors.

Its no wonder the government can keep on spending on improvements to Melbourne Park.

Jayne from Tennis Australia ... The Australian Open is helping to firm up Melbourne's position as Australia's sporting capital. Last year, it pumped more than $280 million in to the Victorian economy but the best is yet to come.

 

[NoobPie]

Last year 2018 it was estimated to bring in $280 million plus the massive PR boost it gives to Melbourne/Victoria Most likely more for the 2019 AO you would think.
One of my daughters worked in the Hotel industry up untill recently and the AO was the always busiest time of the year for bookings esp from overseas visitors.

Its no wonder the government can keep on spending on improvements to Melbourne Park.

Jayne from Tennis Australia ... The Australian Open is helping to firm up Melbourne's position as Australia's sporting capital. Last year, it pumped more than $280 million in to the Victorian economy but the best is yet to come.

I don't know what the government has spent in total on Melbourne park but, IIRC, the annual cost of the F1GP is over $50M a year. Fair to say that the Aus open dwarfs the F1 in terms of economic benefit to the state, not to mention that it actually leaves permanent infrastructure that other sports and events can benefit from

 

[The_Wookie]

I don't know what the government has spent in total on Melbourne park but, IIRC, the annual cost of the F1GP is over $50M a year. Fair to say that the Aus open dwarfs the F1 in terms of economic benefit to the state, not to mention that it actually leaves permanent infrastructure that other sports and events can benefit from

Total spending on Melbourne Park since 1988, including work due to begin this year will be $1.134 billion. Note that this includes Rod Laver Arena,Melbourne Arena (formerly Hisense, naming rights bought by Tennis Australia who prefer to keep it Melbourne), Margaret Court Arena and a new 5,000 seat venue to come, as well as the additional courts and facilities.

More Government money than was spent on the MCG, Docklands and Aami Park combined.

 

[Kwality]

Total spending on Melbourne Park since 1988, including work due to begin this year will be $1.134 billion. Note that this includes Rod Laver Arena,Melbourne Arena (formerly Hisense, naming rights bought by Tennis Australia who prefer to keep it Melbourne), Margaret Court Arena and a new 5,000 seat venue to come, as well as the additional courts and facilities.

More Government money than was spent on the MCG, Docklands and Aami Park combined.

Any idea of the management & financial arrangements for the venues above?

 

[The_Wookie]

Any idea of the management & financial arrangements for the venues above?

Melbourne Park and its Venues, as well as Aami Park are owned and operated by the Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust.

Includes

• Rod Laver Arena, (15,000 seats)
• Melbourne Arena, (10,000 seats)
• National Tennis Centre
• Melbourne Park Function Centre, (1800 sq/m)
• Margaret Court Arena, (7,500 seats)
• Two show courts
• 35 outdoor Plexicushion tennis courts
• Six indoor tennis courts
• The Oval
• M&OP Administration
• Tennis Australia Administration & Tennis World
• AAMI Park (30,050 seats)
• Holden Centre
• Olympic Park Oval
• Gosch's Paddock training fields

last annual report is here - $111.68 million in revenue in the 2017/18 financial year, made a loss of $4.2 million. Lists more than $2 BILLION in assets, with $145 million cash on hand (can be partially attributed to $34.7 million in cash held on behalf of customers in relation to ticket sales for future events).

Attendance notes

• The Australian Open once again delivered a strong attendance of 743,667, up from 728,763 fans in 2017.
• Hisense Arena attracted 454,546 fans, selling a staggering 190,668 more tickets than the prior year.
• Margaret Court Arena attracted a total of 182,352 fans to ticketed events, up from 166,161 the prior year
• AAMI Park attracted more than 811,627 fans throughout the year, up from 689,106 the prior year.

 

[Our Game]

The 2019 AO set a new record crowd.

Australian Open 2019 has attracted record crowds to the newly upgraded Melbourne Park to see the world’s best tennis players hit the court at the world’s best tennis venue.

More than 780,000 fans attended the two-week grand slam, smashing the previous attendance record of 743,667 set in 2018 Thats an average of 55,714 per Day!

 

[magic_johnson!]

Which, from quick googling, is several hundred thousand more than Wimbledon, and a couple of hundred thousand more than French and us opens

 

[BobbyMorri]

Which, from quick googling, is several hundred thousand more than Wimbledon, and a couple of hundred thousand more than French and us opens

Yeah. It is because the grounds of Melbourne Park are huge compared to the European Grand Slams(I have only been to those). So much more room and stuff to do as well.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[BobbyMorri]

And it wont be up by much as 2 of the lowest drawing teams will be hosting the first 2 weeks of the finals. Cricket Australia really need to work on the fixture and TV coverage for next year. Having no games on Monday-Wednesday last week makes me wonder what was the point of extending the season outside school holidays, for example.

 

[WagonBang]

Crowds for a busy Sunday of sport

BBL:
Stars v Sixers - 22,359 MCG
A-League:
Victory v Perth - 25,071 AAMI Park (2nd largest Victory home match ever at the venue)
W-League:
Victory v Perth - 8,599 AAMI Park
Brisbane v Sydney FC - 4,271 Dolphin Stadium
AFLW:
Carlton v Crows - 3,150 IKON Park
Fremantle v Lions - 6,007 Fremantle Oval
NBL:
Perth v Sydney - 13,520 RAC Arena (Largest NBL crowd of the season)

Great to see some decent crowds across both codes for the ladies.

 

[NoobPie]

Crowds for a busy Sunday of sport

BBL:
Stars v Sixers - 22,359 MCG
A-League:
Victory v Perth - 25,071 AAMI Park (2nd largest Victory home match ever at the venue)
W-League:
Victory v Perth - 8,599 AAMI Park
Brisbane v Sydney FC - 4,271 Dolphin Stadium
AFLW:
Carlton v Crows - 3,150 IKON Park
Fremantle v Lions - 6,007 Fremantle Oval
NBL:
Perth v Sydney - 13,520 RAC Arena (Largest NBL crowd of the season)

Great to see some decent crowds across both codes for the ladies.

Haha, soccer must have had a very rare good crowd day...WagonBang is back!

Was it difficult getting all the 8,599 fans out of AAMI before the A League game started?

Also, what does Dolphin's stadium hold? 30,000 or something?

 

[Kwality]

Was it difficult getting all the 8,599 fans out of AAMI before the A League game started?

The AFL should consider double headers for its low drawing games in Melbourne.

 

[Kwality]

See Union is making a mark in the USA:
Rugby has not been part of America's sporting DNA for a very long time, but this year the US rugby sevens team is emerging as a new powerhouse.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-31/sevens-rugby-team-usa-on-the-rise/10761990?section=sport

Key points:

• The US Eagles sit joint top of the World Sevens Series rankings with Fiji.
• The top four teams at the end of the season qualify for the 2020 Olympic Games.
• US Rugby has 24 professional players in its Olympic training centre.

Nearly a century ago, the United States won gold in 15-a-side rugby union at the Antwerp Olympics in 1920 and again in Paris four years later. From then until recent years, however, the game has been very much a sporting afterthought compared to American football.

Right now, though, US is tied with Fiji at the top of the Rugby Sevens World Series rankings on 57 points ahead of this weekends' Sydney 7s tournament at the Sydney Showgrounds.

It's been a meteoric rise for the US sevens team, which was on the verge of being relegated from the 15 "core" teams in the World Series just five years ago.

 

[WagonBang]

Yes thank you for welcoming me back NoobPie can see the sarcasm is still alive and well. Look forward the another year of Banter with you and old mate Our Game. Just spent 2 months touring Europe/UK. Old Firm at Ibrox highlight of the sporting games I got to but Germany. Wow! the Berlin Olympic Stadium and Salzburg. Anyways....

It was so bad getting the people in and out again that they delayed kick off for 21min. Major design flaw with the stadium is its exits on wings only. Really only designed to handle City and Rebels sized crowds

Dolphin Stadium has a capacity of 15k thanks to wiki. Home of the Redcliff Dolphins. Looks like an alright suburban ground which you don't hear much about in Brisbane.

 

[Our Game]

"It was so bad getting the people in and out again that they delayed kick off for 21min. Major design flaw with the stadium is its exits on wings only. Really only designed to handle City and Rebels sized crowds"

So how many do you think would have paid twice to see both matches?

 

[WagonBang]

"It was so bad getting the people in and out again that they delayed kick off for 21min. Major design flaw with the stadium is its exits on wings only. Really only designed to handle City and Rebels sized crowds"

So how many do you think would have paid twice to see both matches?

I was being sarcastic.... W-League went to extra time. One ticket for both matches.
How many people would pay to watch AFLW?

 

[jatz14]

I was being sarcastic.... W-League went to extra time. One ticket for both matches.
How many people would pay to watch AFLW?

Pretty much the same number that go for free I would think. If tickets are $10 or so, the logistics of getting to the game, and having the time to spend at a footy match would be the determining factors for most people. No one prepared to spend the time and effort to get to a game is going to be turned of by a modest ticket price.

If W-league tickets were cut to 0, would numbers rival A league crowd wise, or would it be much as it is now?

 

[WagonBang]

Pretty much the same number that go for free I would think. If tickets are $10 or so, the logistics of getting to the game, and having the time to spend at a footy match would be the determining factors for most people. No one prepared to spend the time and effort to get to a game is going to be turned of by a modest ticket price.

If W-league tickets were cut to 0, would numbers rival A league crowd wise, or would it be much as it is now?

The way the FFA run the shop, stay the same.