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Have also been working on a spreadsheet that has collated all counts on here and have averaged them out as the 'BF Brownlow 2020 Average Leaderboard'. I did this last year and posted it in the 2019 thread which ended up being a great resource. I was waiting for at least one more count but I guess I'll update it if anyone else wants to contribute their count towards it.

Counts used: TJM, Sheperdodin, Analysis Paralysis, Johnsonator, Smithilicious

LEADERBOARD / TOP 20

PlayerAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Travis Boak20.60
Christian Petracca20.20
Jack Steele18.80
Dustin Martin17.20
Zach Merrett16.20
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Jack Macrae15.80
Luke Parker14.80
Nat Fyfe14.20
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Patrick Cripps13.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Max Gawn13.00
Ollie Wines12.80
Taylor Adams11.80
Clayton Oliver11.60
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Tom Rockliff10.80

TEAMS

ADELAIDEAverage
Matt Crouch6.60
Rory Laird6.40
Reilly OBrien3.20
Brad Crouch3.00

BRISBANEAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Jarryd Lyons7.60
Dayne Zorko6.00
Hugh McCluggage5.50
Daniel Rich4.50

CARLTONAverage
Patrick Cripps13.80
Sam Walsh9.00
Ed Curnow4.00
Marc Murphy3.50

COLLINGWOODAverage
Taylor Adams11.80
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Brodie Grundy7.00
Adam Treloar6.80

ESSENDONAverage
Zach Merrett16.20
Andrew McGrath7.80
Dylan Shiel7.60

FREMANTLEAverage
Nat Fyfe14.20
Michael Walters8.20
Andrew Brayshaw8.00
David Mundy7.75

GEELONGAverage
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Tom Hawkins10.40

GOLD COASTAverage
Matt Rowell8.80
Hugh Greenwood5.80
Jarrod Witts5.25
Touk Miller5.20

GWSAverage
Josh Kelly9.40
Lachie Whitfield8.80
Toby Greene8.80
Stephen Coniglio5.50

HAWTHORNAverage
Tom Mitchell8.00
Chad Wingard7.00
Jack Gunston4.40
Jaeger OMeara3.00

MELBOURNEAverage
Christian Petracca20.20
Max Gawn13.00
Clayton Oliver11.60

NORTH MELBOURNEAverage
Jed Anderson7.80
Jy Simpkin6.40
Todd Goldstein6.25
Shaun Higgins6.00

PORT ADELAIDEAverage
Travis Boak20.60
Ollie Wines12.80
Tom Rockliff10.80
Charlie Dixon7.67

RICHMONDAverage
Dustin Martin17.20
Shai Bolton5.80
Trent Cotchin5.00
Jayden Short4.80
Kane Lambert4.80

ST KILDAAverage
Jack Steele18.80
Zak Jones10.40
Rowan Marshall10.00
Jack Billings7.00

SYDNEYAverage
Luke Parker14.80
Josh P Kennedy6.00
Tom Papley4.50
Isaac Heeney4.40
Jake Lloyd3.50

WEST COASTAverage
Dom Sheed10.80
Tim Kelly10.40
Andrew Gaff9.20
Nic Naitanui8.25
Josh J Kennedy6.50

WESTERN BULLDOGSAverage
Jack Macrae15.80
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Caleb Daniel6.00
Lachie Hunter5.80
 
Most have already posted them but heres my team votes summary...

ADELBRISCARLCOLLESSFREOGEELGCSGWS
R.Laird10L.Neale28S.Walsh15T.Adams15Z.Merrett14N.Fyfe17P.Dangerfield16M.Rowell9L.Whitfield10
M.Crouch7J.Lyons9P.Cripps8S.Pendlebury14D.Shiel8A.Brayshaw11C.Guthrie12T.Miller6T.Greene9
B.Smith3H.McCluggage6E.Curnow6J.De Goey6A.McGrath7L.Ryan8S.Menegola11H.Greenwood5J.Kelly9
HAWMELBNORTHPORTRICHST KSYDWBDWCE
T.Mitchell8C.Petracca20J.Anderson8T.Boak22D.Martin15J.Steele20L.Parker16M.Bontempelli19D.Sheed10
C.Wingard7M.Gawn14J.Simpkin7O.Wines12T.Cotchin6Z.Jones11J.Kennedy6J.Macrae15N.Naitanui9
J.Gunston4C.Oliver14T.Goldstein5T.Rockliff11S.Bolton5R.Marshall8I.Heeney6T.English5A.Gaff9

I decided to tail you on your leading vote gettors but taking out : Ess, Gold Coast Suns and Melbourne leaders for a 15 legged multi as well as a 13 fold.

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Great work! I have something similar I've been planning on posting - waiting for Gazza's count (now gothedons has his I'll add them as well). The different between this and mine is I have a weighted average (for example TJM votes count much more than mine, IMO).

This is what it looks like currently. The difference is the average votes of the next person. This helped me a lot inform my decisions, I didn't use it as an entire basis, because some teams have a variance, but it was a very helpful indicator. For example before I did this I put quite a bit of money on Jones, but now I'm not so sure it was that great a call.

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Yeah brilliant use of the differences there. Definitely seems like Merrett/Fyfe/Petracca/Rowell/Mitchell are the truly safe picks, and odds reflect that. Although difference for Mitchell is a bit smaller, I haven't seen a tally yet that puts Wingard above 7, so IMO that makes Titch a bit safer as his average is 8.5, and no one has him below a 7.

I also really like Pendles from this too. Basically splitting hairs between him and Adams, but tbh their personalities on field are very different and I think that should get Pendles over the line. Adams is probably one of the players I see mouth of the most, compared to Pendles being essentially a golden child. I think I'm going to essentially avoid WCE/WBD/StK/NM except for some smaller plays
 

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Have also been working on a spreadsheet that has collated all counts on here and have averaged them out as the 'BF Brownlow 2020 Average Leaderboard'. I did this last year and posted it in the 2019 thread which ended up being a great resource. I was waiting for at least one more count but I guess I'll update it if anyone else wants to contribute their count towards it.

Counts used: TJM, Sheperdodin, Analysis Paralysis, Johnsonator, Smithilicious

LEADERBOARD / TOP 20

PlayerAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Travis Boak20.60
Christian Petracca20.20
Jack Steele18.80
Dustin Martin17.20
Zach Merrett16.20
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Jack Macrae15.80
Luke Parker14.80
Nat Fyfe14.20
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Patrick Cripps13.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Max Gawn13.00
Ollie Wines12.80
Taylor Adams11.80
Clayton Oliver11.60
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Tom Rockliff10.80

TEAMS

ADELAIDEAverage
Matt Crouch6.60
Rory Laird6.40
Reilly OBrien3.20
Brad Crouch3.00

BRISBANEAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Jarryd Lyons7.60
Dayne Zorko6.00
Hugh McCluggage5.50
Daniel Rich4.50

CARLTONAverage
Patrick Cripps13.80
Sam Walsh9.00
Ed Curnow4.00
Marc Murphy3.50

COLLINGWOODAverage
Taylor Adams11.80
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Brodie Grundy7.00
Adam Treloar6.80

ESSENDONAverage
Zach Merrett16.20
Andrew McGrath7.80
Dylan Shiel7.60

FREMANTLEAverage
Nat Fyfe14.20
Michael Walters8.20
Andrew Brayshaw8.00
David Mundy7.75

GEELONGAverage
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Tom Hawkins10.40

GOLD COASTAverage
Matt Rowell8.80
Hugh Greenwood5.80
Jarrod Witts5.25
Touk Miller5.20

GWSAverage
Josh Kelly9.40
Lachie Whitfield8.80
Toby Greene8.80
Stephen Coniglio5.50

HAWTHORNAverage
Tom Mitchell8.00
Chad Wingard7.00
Jack Gunston4.40
Jaeger OMeara3.00

MELBOURNEAverage
Christian Petracca20.20
Max Gawn13.00
Clayton Oliver11.60

NORTH MELBOURNEAverage
Jed Anderson7.80
Jy Simpkin6.40
Todd Goldstein6.25
Shaun Higgins6.00

PORT ADELAIDEAverage
Travis Boak20.60
Ollie Wines12.80
Tom Rockliff10.80
Charlie Dixon7.67

RICHMONDAverage
Dustin Martin17.20
Shai Bolton5.80
Trent Cotchin5.00
Jayden Short4.80
Kane Lambert4.80

ST KILDAAverage
Jack Steele18.80
Zak Jones10.40
Rowan Marshall10.00
Jack Billings7.00

SYDNEYAverage
Luke Parker14.80
Josh P Kennedy6.00
Tom Papley4.50
Isaac Heeney4.40
Jake Lloyd3.50

WEST COASTAverage
Dom Sheed10.80
Tim Kelly10.40
Andrew Gaff9.20
Nic Naitanui8.25
Josh J Kennedy6.50

WESTERN BULLDOGSAverage
Jack Macrae15.80
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Caleb Daniel6.00
Lachie Hunter5.80


Thanks for this , I also tailed the leaders in a 13 Folds out of 14 selections. Left out : Ess, Melbourne, Gold Coast and Western Bulldogs leaders.

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Have also been working on a spreadsheet that has collated all counts on here and have averaged them out as the 'BF Brownlow 2020 Average Leaderboard'. I did this last year and posted it in the 2019 thread which ended up being a great resource. I was waiting for at least one more count but I guess I'll update it if anyone else wants to contribute their count towards it.

Counts used: TJM, Sheperdodin, Analysis Paralysis, Johnsonator, Smithilicious

LEADERBOARD / TOP 20

PlayerAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Travis Boak20.60
Christian Petracca20.20
Jack Steele18.80
Dustin Martin17.20
Zach Merrett16.20
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Jack Macrae15.80
Luke Parker14.80
Nat Fyfe14.20
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Patrick Cripps13.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Max Gawn13.00
Ollie Wines12.80
Taylor Adams11.80
Clayton Oliver11.60
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Tom Rockliff10.80

TEAMS

ADELAIDEAverage
Matt Crouch6.60
Rory Laird6.40
Reilly OBrien3.20
Brad Crouch3.00

BRISBANEAverage
Lachie Neale27.40
Jarryd Lyons7.60
Dayne Zorko6.00
Hugh McCluggage5.50
Daniel Rich4.50

CARLTONAverage
Patrick Cripps13.80
Sam Walsh9.00
Ed Curnow4.00
Marc Murphy3.50

COLLINGWOODAverage
Taylor Adams11.80
Scott Pendlebury11.20
Brodie Grundy7.00
Adam Treloar6.80

ESSENDONAverage
Zach Merrett16.20
Andrew McGrath7.80
Dylan Shiel7.60

FREMANTLEAverage
Nat Fyfe14.20
Michael Walters8.20
Andrew Brayshaw8.00
David Mundy7.75

GEELONGAverage
Patrick Dangerfield16.00
Sam Menegola15.80
Cameron Guthrie13.40
Tom Hawkins10.40

GOLD COASTAverage
Matt Rowell8.80
Hugh Greenwood5.80
Jarrod Witts5.25
Touk Miller5.20

GWSAverage
Josh Kelly9.40
Lachie Whitfield8.80
Toby Greene8.80
Stephen Coniglio5.50

HAWTHORNAverage
Tom Mitchell8.00
Chad Wingard7.00
Jack Gunston4.40
Jaeger OMeara3.00

MELBOURNEAverage
Christian Petracca20.20
Max Gawn13.00
Clayton Oliver11.60

NORTH MELBOURNEAverage
Jed Anderson7.80
Jy Simpkin6.40
Todd Goldstein6.25
Shaun Higgins6.00

PORT ADELAIDEAverage
Travis Boak20.60
Ollie Wines12.80
Tom Rockliff10.80
Charlie Dixon7.67

RICHMONDAverage
Dustin Martin17.20
Shai Bolton5.80
Trent Cotchin5.00
Jayden Short4.80
Kane Lambert4.80

ST KILDAAverage
Jack Steele18.80
Zak Jones10.40
Rowan Marshall10.00
Jack Billings7.00

SYDNEYAverage
Luke Parker14.80
Josh P Kennedy6.00
Tom Papley4.50
Isaac Heeney4.40
Jake Lloyd3.50

WEST COASTAverage
Dom Sheed10.80
Tim Kelly10.40
Andrew Gaff9.20
Nic Naitanui8.25
Josh J Kennedy6.50

WESTERN BULLDOGSAverage
Jack Macrae15.80
Marcus Bontempelli14.00
Caleb Daniel6.00
Lachie Hunter5.80

Can add mine in too if you want about 5 pages back or just check my posting history, haven't been in much other than here.
 
This is good. I've always thought it'd be good to have the games up every week with a hidden poll for people to enter there predictions. Have to do it within the week so fresh and not stat based. Then it all adds itself up. I'm a bit of a computer nuffie tho.

Computer nuffie, you didn’t used to be called Echelon in a past life by chance ? Hidden poll sounds familiar as well.
 
After putting in my team votes previously I thought i'd put in percentages my likelihood of each player winning their team votes. You'll notice it doesn't necessairly align with the actual votes I've given in every match (and therefore the total) as I expect players to pull 1's and 2's out of the air like happens every single year for those proven pollers.

I've listed below each top players in my count for each team and a percentage likelihood they are in my opinion to win the most votes for the club.

Adelaide:
M Crouch 10 (55%)
Laird 7.5 (45%)

Brisbane (w/o Neale):
Lyons 8.5 (40%)
Berry 5.5 (15%)
Zorko 5.5 (35%)
McCluggage 4 (10%)

Carlton:
Walsh 11 (30%)
Cripps 10 (70%)

Collingwood:
Pendlebury 11.5 (50%)
Adams 10 (35%)
Treloar 8.5 (15%)

Essendon:
Merrett 16.5 (100%)
Shiel 8 (0%)
McGrath 7.5 (0%)

Fremantle:
Fyfe 17.5 (80%)
Mundy 12 (15%)
Brayshaw 10 (5%)

Gold Coast:
Rowell 9 (70%)
Greenwood 5.5 (10%)
Miller 5 (20%)

Geelong:
Dangerfield 14.5 (40%)
Menegola 14.5 (32.5%)
Guthrie 12.5 (22.5%)
Hawkins 11.5 (5%)

GWS:
Kelly 12.5 (50%)
Whitfield 11 (45%)
Greene 7.5 (5%)

Hawthorn:
Mitchell 11 (70%)
Wingard 7 (30%)

Melbourne:
Petracca 19 (70%)
Gawn 16 (20%)
Oliver 12.5 (10%)

North Melbourne:
Higgins 8 (45%)
Anderson 7.5 (40%)
Simpkin 6 (15%)

Port Adelaide (w/o Boak):
Rockliff 12 (50%)
Wines 11 (50%)

Richmond:
Cotchin 5.5 (45%)
Lambert 5.5 (25%)
Short 4 (5%)
Bolton 3.5 (25%)

St Kilda (w/o Steele):
Billings 9.5 (40%)
Jones 8.5 (35%)
Marshall 8 (25%)

Sydney (w/o Parker):
JPK 6 (50%)
Lloyd 5.5 (30%)
Heeney 4.5 (20%)

Western Bulldogs:
Macrae 18 (75%)
Bont 12.5 (25%)

West Coast
Gaff 13.5 (35%)
NicNat 11 (25%)
Kelly 10.5 (30%)
Sheed 8 (10%)
ive also decided to tail you on your 'Percentage ' plays based on your opinions. But left out : Melb, GC Suns, Ess for a 13 fold. Without sounding negative, I don't like the chances of Gaff, MacRae and Billings getting up. Also about 1/3rd of my stake on the multi involving your 15 legs.

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Young Gun #6 , i also did a separate 13 fold involving 15 of your selections based on your initial count, with Sam Walsh and Ollie Wines.

Only need 13 of the 15 legs to get up.

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As I speak Sportsbet have lowered Cripps into from $2.25 into $2.00 for Team leader votes. I'm aware that you have 1) Done your own count and 2) done a count based on your opinion. Happy to take them both on.
 
With regards to Nic Nat, umpires don't tend to pay him many votes . He has polled 12 votes over the last 6 years.

I had a look at the umpires who have decided Nic Nat's votes in games where has polled Since 2012 in the games where he has voted by the set of group of umpires:

(David Harris Margetts Dalgeish), (Margetts Chamberlain Bannister ), (Dalgeish Kamolins Ben Ryan), (Fisher Stephens Pannell), (Dalgleish Nicholls Meredith), (Rosebury Meredith Bannister), (Nicholls Mitchell Fila),( Dalgleish Fila McBurney ), (Margetts Rosebury Farmer)


The common link in those votes seem to be Dalgeish, Margetts and Nicholls in my opinion. Maybe Nic Nat has been nice to them/on good terms with them- which always helps? or they just catch the umpires eye a bit more?

Games where Nic Nat is expected to poll according to the Betfair Brownlow predictor: Rounds 5, 9 , 11, 12 ,13. TJM has him polling in rounds 13 and 17. Those 6 potential games where he could get votes, these are the following umpires:

Round 5 umps for Eagles game: Nicholls, Williamson, Dore
Round 9 umps for Eagles game: Dalgeish, Chamberlain, Power
Round 11 umps for Eagles game: Dalgeish, David Harris , Williamson
Round 12 umps for Eagles game: Margetts, Williamson, Johanson
Round 13 umps for Eagles game: Rosebury, Broadbent, Haussen
Round 17 umps for Eagles game: Gavine, Fleer, Hosking


The games with Nicholls, Dalgeish, Margetts , if past games are any indication- he may not need to woo or seek the required attention to get the votes.

I don't think there's a link. Dalgleish & Margetts are from WA so would do more WA games
 
Yes, I rate Titch one of the club locks but obv the short price not great so smart not to use in too many.
In the Round 4 game vs North I felt that the North guys can figure and found it a very hard game to vote.
I went :
Higgins 2 / 3
Goldy .5 / 1
Mitchell 0.5 / 1
Wingard 0.5 / 1
Worpel 0.5 / 0

I could not determine who gets the 2. I remember the game well and thought Higgins played a great game and was very silky with the ball in hand.
Remember that game clearly, Higgins was good and got a lot of the ball but I thought Wingard was the difference between the two sides. I gave him a pretty clear 3, I'd be shocked if he didn't at least get the 2

Edit - I do think Mitchell wins Hawks count but I wouldn't be touching him at what he's priced at personally, you'd hate to have that as the only leg that goes under of a multi
 
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Remember that game clearly, Higgins was good and got a lot of the ball but I thought Wingard was the difference between the two sides. I gave him a pretty clear 3, I'd be shocked if he didn't at least get the 2

Edit - I do think Mitchell wins Hawks count but I wouldn't be touching him at what he's priced at personally, you'd hate to have that as the only leg that goes under of a multi

No issue at all if Wingard gets 3v in the North game. That would get him to 7 on my count ( even tho the 3 would surprise me ) and well off Titch.
Higgins will be close to doomed for the North votes if he doesn’t pick up 2-3 in the Haw game though so more importance with him in that one.
 
My WC votes:
R1: 2 Gaff, 1 Shuey
R2: 1 Shuey
R3: 0.5 Gaff, 0.5 Naitanui
R5: 3 Sheed, 2 Yeo, 1 Naitaui
R6: 3 Kelly, 2 Sheed, 0.5 McGovern
R7: 3 Kennedy, 2 Sheppard, 1 Yeo
R8: 3 Kennedy, 2 Kelly, 1 Gaff
R9: 3 Naitanui, 2 Sheed, 1 Kennedy
R11: 3 Sheed, 2 Naitanui
R12: 3 Gaff, 2 Barrass, 1 Naitanui
R13: 3 Naitanui, 2 McGovern
R14: 1 Kelly
R15: 3 Ryan
R17: 3 Kelly, 2 Gaff, 1 Naitanui
R18: 2 Gaff

Overall: 11.5 Naitanui, 10.5 Gaff, 10 Sheed, 9 Kelly

Would however expect someone like Kelly to go overs, big off season signing has him in the umpires minds. Could see him winning Eagles count.
 
I’ve got a lot riding on Pendles to top Collingwood votes. But I really think Adams pips him in the last round by a couple votes.
 
Most have already posted them but heres my team votes summary...

ADELBRISCARLCOLLESSFREOGEELGCSGWS
R.Laird10L.Neale28S.Walsh15T.Adams15Z.Merrett14N.Fyfe17P.Dangerfield16M.Rowell9L.Whitfield10
M.Crouch7J.Lyons9P.Cripps8S.Pendlebury14D.Shiel8A.Brayshaw11C.Guthrie12T.Miller6T.Greene9
B.Smith3H.McCluggage6E.Curnow6J.De Goey6A.McGrath7L.Ryan8S.Menegola11H.Greenwood5J.Kelly9
HAWMELBNORTHPORTRICHST KSYDWBDWCE
T.Mitchell8C.Petracca20J.Anderson8T.Boak22D.Martin15J.Steele20L.Parker16M.Bontempelli19D.Sheed10
C.Wingard7M.Gawn14J.Simpkin7O.Wines12T.Cotchin6Z.Jones11J.Kennedy6J.Macrae15N.Naitanui9
J.Gunston4C.Oliver14T.Goldstein5T.Rockliff11S.Bolton5R.Marshall8I.Heeney6T.English5A.Gaff9
This Walsh count scares me a lot. I've got a couple without Cripps winning, but not many.

EDIT: mind posting your Cripps/Walsh counts?
 
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I've listed below best odds where you can Same Game Multi (Tab, Sportsbet, Tab Touch). Also have Ladbrokes and Bet365 odds but nearly all the Ladbrokes are worse and I'm unsure if you can even SGM yet??

Crouch $3.50 (Tab)/Laird $1.80 (Sportsbet)
Lyons $1.60 (Tabtouch)
Cripps $2.15 (Tabtouch)/Walsh $1.70 (Sportsbet)
Pendlebury $2.25 (Tab + Sportsbet)
Merrett $1.15 (Sportsbet - I personally would be adding this to any bet you want to place (if possible) as a free booster)
Fyfe $1.36 (Sportsbet - Same as Merrett)
Menegola $3.50 (Tab)/Dangerfield $1.80 (Sportsbet)
Rowell $1.13 (Tab)
J.Kelly $4 (Sportsbet)/ Whitfield $2.10 (Tabtouch)
Mitchell $1.25 (Tab/Sportsbet)
Higgins $4 (Tabtouch)/Anderson $2.40 (Sportsbet) - Note: Tabtouch have Goldy $2.75 ($3.50 on Tab)
Rockliff $3.75 (Tab) / Wines $1.70 (Tab)
Cotchin $3.25 (Tab)
Marshall $6 (Sportsbet)/Billings $2.85 (Tabtouch)
JPK $2.50 (Sportsbet)/Lloyd $4.50 (Tab)
Gaff $5.50 (Tabtouch)/ T.Kelly $2.85 (Tabtouch)
Macrae $2.05 (Tabtouch)/ Bont $2 (Tab)
 
I’ve got a lot riding on Pendles to top Collingwood votes. But I really think Adams pips him in the last round by a couple votes.

I wouldn’t worry about the last round as doubt either of Adams or Pendles will poll.
I think all the votes go to Port guys.
The big Pendles game vs Bris r15 hopefully has you on good terms with yourself.
 
Hi All,

Have pored over the comments in this forum and gotten team vote summaries of everyone that I've been able to find who's done comprehensive tallies. Each sheet represents a different commenter's votes, and I've also thrown in the Betfair tally. Am keen to add other tallies so anyone with one feel free to send through and I'll add it.

The final sheet I've gotten each person's tally, and then averaged the votes for individual players to find what the general consensus is. It's obviously somewhat flawed, as some people didn't include particular players in their counts, so I just ommitted those counts and they don't contribute to the averages. The worksheet is also pretty messy. If we get more people submitting tallies though, the larger our sample, the more accurate it should hopefully be. Will attach link below. It's also pretty messy but in the sheet labeled 'Aggregate', you basically can scroll to the right and you'll see most notable players. I didn't bother with Richmond as I don't want to touch that market.


That is just fantastic work - really well done.

One minor thing with mine - while I'm aware a couple of posters have a bee in their bonnet over how many projected votes I have Sheed on - I don't have him winning the WB votes also :). WB I have Bont 14 and Macrae on 13.
 
That is just fantastic work - really well done.

One minor thing with mine - while I'm aware a couple of posters have a bee in their bonnet over how many projected votes I have Sheed on - I don't have him winning the WB votes also :). WB I have Bont 14 and Macrae on 13.

Funny !

I’m not so sure that there’s any bee in the bonnet about Sheed, just a lot of discussion the past couple of days re Nicnat.
 
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