List Mgmt. 2020 List Management

[DangerousD]

We shouldn’t be giving up much for guys who are getting dropped in a side looking worse than our own.

Martin was dropped from GC last year, it’s not an accurate projection of a player

 

[The Bighouse]

Kemp will be best 22 before the end of 2021

But where will be his position d’ya think?

 

[katmanblue]

Great post.

Wouldn't surprise me if Papley and Sydney came to an agreement. Papley to stay on in 2020 and give his all, cause no disgruntled riffs and be professional. Sydney grant his wish and cash in as best as they can.

If we have a pick 5-10 i would suggest that and maybe a 2nd or 3rd gets it done.

Clubs and players aren't dumb. They dont want to damage their own brand. Last year didn't work. And if Papley has made it clear, watch Sydney release him for a nice deal for them.

I suspect he will be in blue next year

Don't get my hopes up. İt'd be too cruel.

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[katmanblue]

Matt Crouch anyone?


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Minimum chips

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[katmanblue]

Question for all of us armchair list managers:
If all things were equal (length/$ of contract) and we could choose between them, would you prefer Saad or Z. Williams at the Blues? And why?

Williams. Can kick.

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[new_blue]

No thanks.
I’m no expert, but M Crouch seems to me to be the epitome of “Empty Stats.” Gets a lot of cheap handball receives and gives off a lot of dinky sideways kicks. Doesn’t seem to do a lot of damage with it.
If he was a free pickup on a cheap deal he’d probably be worth a look, to see if his style of play could be adjusted. But wouldn’t be giving anything meaningful for him.
Happy to be convinced otherwise, as I confess to not having seen a tremendous amount of the Crows.

The problem with Adelaide is their mix of midfielders don’t complement each other. I actually rate Matt Crouch as he brings other players into the game, is fairly tidy by foot and gets a fair amount of clearances. He’s dangerous when he can work in tandem with dynamic players who can feed off him, which clearly Adelaide don’t have. Problem is that he’s very 1-dimensional...wouldn’t be against taking a look at him.

 

[new_blue]

North are heavily into everyone. Have been for years.

For 800k they can have him. Don’t think he’s worth anything close to that.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Question for all of us armchair list managers:
If all things were equal (length/$ of contract) and we could choose between them, would you prefer Saad or Z. Williams at the Blues? And why?

Williams - cause he can go to the middle and hit scoreboard -- if he started his career with us Ed would be surfing ( no offence to Ed)

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Even if green started with us he be full time mid

 

[Manhattanite]

Question for all of us armchair list managers:
If all things were equal (length/$ of contract) and we could choose between them, would you prefer Saad or Z. Williams at the Blues? And why?

Williams would be better but Saad is probably more gettable (and cheaper) - wasn’t there a Carlton connection with him?




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[thylacine60]

yes, we were saad when he went to *..........





is that the way out..........

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Hard to imagine Adelaide went into a grand final as flag favourites just three years ago with a midfield of Crouch, Crouch, Sloane and Atkins and MacKay on the wings. There is so much more to a good team and building a side then just the names on paper. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a side fall apart to such an extent because of a failed culture. (I’m not even sure culture is the right word)

 

[Arr0w]

I hope so, where do you think he will play early on in his career? Mix of mid/forward?

But where will be his position d’ya think?

Initially HBF

 

[I AM CARLTON]

Crouch boys no thanks they get nothing disposals and dont impact a game.

Williams from GWS yes please has speed, can get it and disposal is good.

Be shocked if Port let Wines go with Boak, Rockliff and Ebert all in their 30's it wouldnt make sense to let Wines leave.

 

[Accidental genius]

is jsos a lock in forward group in future?

if we get a papley type and philp stars and cements a forward position and we get a decent mid which will mean martin will also line up on forward line and we get charlie back where does jsos play?

for example we could have the following set up:

papley (eddie) mackay gov (philp)
martin charlie (cas) cunners

other current options: jsos kennedy lang

 

[Coona Blues]

is jsos a lock in forward group in future?

if we get a papley type and philp stars and cements a forward position and we get a decent mid which will mean martin will also line up on forward line and we get charlie back where does jsos play?

for example we could have the following set up:

papley (eddie) mackay gov (philp)
martin charlie (cas) cunners

other current options: jsos kennedy lang

A bit of a "watch this space". I see JSOS similar to how I see Plowman at the other end. Both are virtual locks at the moment, but a change of dynamic
could easily see them usurped. JSOS is able to fill a number of functions/roles. Third tall, linkman and pressure forward rolled in is his prime role, but can
go through the midfield and is an effective stopper against opposition "bulls". With a three pronged tall forward line when fit Charlie, Harry and Gov, let
alone Levi for another couple of years and some developing ultra quick pressure players, it would be hard to see a spot.

Similarly Plow, as we phase out Jones over a couple of years, a genuine third tall interceptor/come undersized KPD in Marchbank. if fit, combined with
three or four mobile smaller types (Doc, SPS, Newman and Willo among others), the versatile stopper Plow may become less attractive than playing
Marchy and/or phasing in a Jones replacement (ie BSOS).

There is plenty to play out over the next year or two.

 

[I AM CARLTON]

Hard to imagine Adelaide went into a grand final as flag favourites just three years ago with a midfield of Crouch, Crouch, Sloane and Atkins and MacKay on the wings. There is so much more to a good team and building a side then just the names on paper. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a side fall apart to such an extent because of a failed culture. (I’m not even sure culture is the right word)

It can fall apart quickly just like it did for us when finished 2nd on the ladder in 2000 to Wooden Spoon in 2002............ we went from powerhouse to no house at all and are still rebuilding since then.

 

[therubbernub]

Hard to imagine Adelaide went into a grand final as flag favourites just three years ago with a midfield of Crouch, Crouch, Sloane and Atkins and MacKay on the wings. There is so much more to a good team and building a side then just the names on paper. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a side fall apart to such an extent because of a failed culture. (I’m not even sure culture is the right word)

Fish rots from the head.

 

[DamianBis]

Really over the Papley sh*t

Dogs bat deep in the midfield, yet all of them find a spot in the team, where they can rotate through multiple positions

Pretty simple isn't it

Dogs also underperform most games. Last year and this year they were a much better team on paper than how they played.

How much of that is due to lack of continuity of playing a position and is because of being thrown around at bevos whims.

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[Juddernaut08]

is jsos a lock in forward group in future?

if we get a papley type and philp stars and cements a forward position and we get a decent mid which will mean martin will also line up on forward line and we get charlie back where does jsos play?

for example we could have the following set up:

papley (eddie) mackay gov (philp)
martin charlie (cas) cunners

other current options: jsos kennedy lang

papley seems out of reach now

 

[Accidental genius]

papley seems out of reach now

His stocks have risen for sure. Playing beautifully. We haven’t paid much (apart from gov) for our trades since the start of our rebuild. Time to pay for quality imo.

 

[thylacine60]

Fish rots from the head.

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hell of a big spider coming up over his shoulder there........

 

[Eiffel 65]

Interesting comments regarding our trade attempt on Tom Papley. Sounds extremely unlikely now.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Interesting comments regarding our trade attempt on Tom Papley. Sounds extremely unlikely now.

Still got no idea what he is on about. How do you play your hand too early?

 

[HARKER]

Still got no idea what he is on about. How do you play your hand too early?

Ridiculous notion. Never early enough.

I do understand people getting sick of hearing about Papley though.
Papley, Papley and more bloody Papley