List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Betts are off]

Just went down a ladder analysis rabbit hole and found out that since 2012, this is the equal closest the AFL ladder has been in terms of W/L in 10 seasons. Particularly for the 12 teams ranging between 6th and 17th on the ladder.

At the start of round 16 only 4 wins separates 6th from 17th, which has only happened one other time in the past 10 seasons (2014).
The average gap is 6.3 wins, and the widest margin was a whopping 9 game variance (2016 and 2012).

Probably a lot of conclusions can be made from that, but 1 thing is for sure, if a team goes on a heater, or goes ice cold in the last 8 games they could still drastically change their ladder/draft position.

 

[dogs105]

Just went down a ladder analysis rabbit hole and found out that since 2012, this is the equal closest the AFL ladder has been in terms of W/L in 10 seasons. Particularly for the 12 teams ranging between 6th and 17th on the ladder.

At the start of round 16 only 4 wins separates 6th from 17th, which has only happened one other time in the past 10 seasons (2014).
The average gap is 6.3 wins, and the widest margin was a whopping 9 game variance (2016 and 2012).

Probably a lot of conclusions can be made from that, but 1 thing is for sure, if a team goes on a heater, or goes ice cold in the last 8 games they could still drastically change their ladder/draft position.

If we were to beat Brisbane, we might be 1 game out of the 8...

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

 

[hey shorty]

Bevo is a huuuuuuge sook.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Bahaha... desperate rubbish from beverage.. and what a filthy little scrounger.. wants everything handed to him at a discount.

The crows actually discussed their intentions to put a bid on ju-h with thilthorpe to see what he thought and he told them he didnt even care about it.

Hopefully north now bid on Darcy with pick 1 and make the dogs pay the maximum.

What a selfish club.

 

[dogs105]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Disgusting

 

[Betts are off]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Some of the least disguised/ most selfish intentions I think i've ever seen go to print.

I suppose you stay up night after night just furious about the state of Riley Thilthorpe's financial portfolio do you Luke?

What a load of utter garbage!

 

[Betts are off]

If we were to beat Brisbane, we might be 1 game out of the 8...

Yep, in fact mathematically we could land anywhere between 11th and 17th at the end of this round depending on the margins and some surprise results

 

[Crow till I die]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Or how about he says..well if a club at the top of the order wants him then as tgey have a pick before we do then they are entitled to draft him and we wish him well...

Wont say that will he..he will be greedy and wanting access to a player way above the dogs draft position. Cant have it both ways luke

 

[Jarman3]

$10k is less than a drop in the ocean of what Thilthorpe will be making in a year, let alone over the course of his career. Who gives a ****? What we also did was save him from the same spotlight that is now on JUH with everybody asking about why he isn't getting a game after going at pick 1. Would have been the same with Thilthorpe for the first couple of months until he debuted.

Beveridge doesn't seem too concerned with the "fairness" of the team that finished bottom not actually getting their pick of the best young player on offer, and instead getting gazumped by a team that played finals. And it may well happen 2 years in a row - for the same club, if you don't mind - if a pick comes on Darcy at number 1. He also didn't really get too caught up in the fact that if JUH were in this year's draft then he wouldn't get the option of matching the bid on him at all as a NGA player in the top 20.

 

[Mutineer]

Haha poor widdle Bevo, wants his cake and to eat it too...suck it up Princess if Darcy is assessed as the best in this draft by the recruiters so be it...stiff sh1t if you've got to pay full tote odds, you're still getting the potential best player that no other club has access to.

 

[Betts are off]

What Beveridge Says: How could Adelaide's mean and vindictive list manager cheat Riley Thilthorpe out of his $10k portfolio for a Number 1 pick (even though the average annual salary for an AFL player in 2020 was $260k).

What Beveridge Means: OMG, do you know what happens when you administer the 20% F/S discount to 3000 points instead of 2593 points? THE NUMBER GETS A LOT BIGGER!!!

 

[Vhaluus]

So bulldogs one of the premiership favorites this year and going to get 2 #1 picks in a row.

I can not understand how anyone can defend the father-son system.

 

[JennyTalia]

My family and I often vote for the most punchable head in footy, luke beveridge has had my vote since 2015.

 

[Golumless]

Noble likes to trade down so who knows.
Their list is a basket case and in need of players in 24-30 bracket more so than GC.
They cant attract any decent players even after throwing massive offers out.
They should throw a bucket load at MCrouch and we get band 1
The difference this year is Barrett supports NM and would champion the trade if it suited their cause

He might like it, but there is a vast difference between pick 1 and even pick 5-6.

You don't trade down from pick 1 without a kings ransom, and you don't particularly care about the supposed best prospect in the draft.

 

[jo172]

My family and I often vote for the most punchable head in footy, luke beveridge has had my vote since 2015.

The Talia brother sooking and "disgraceful" comments did it for me.

I kind of like everything else about the bulldogs (the players, the style, the club) but can't ****ing stand the whinger.

EDIT - also the bullshit dropping the ball gameplan in 2016 was a disgrace and Sydney deserved that flag.

 

[Jarman3]

My family and I often vote for the most punchable head in footy, luke beveridge has had my vote since 2015.

What? Have you not seen Toby Greene?



I just destroyed 3 computer monitors in succession on pure reflex while searching for this image.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Hahahahahahahahaha

Cry me a river, Bevo

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Bwahahaha. Bevo. Not a good poker player. He is worried a bid on Darcy comes too early. A bid at pick 1 instead of 2 means the bulldogs need to find another late second rounder to make up the points. And a bid coming at 3 instead of 2 will save them a third round pick.

Hopefully north don’t bid on him and we have the second live pick. If WB trade their pick 17 to us for second and third rounder then perhaps we forget Darcy is there…

 

[Scorpus]

If we end up with pick 1 or 2 we should bid on Darcy. Absolutely have to after Bevo's huge sook.

 

[Crows I Am]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

Haha what a sook, he is just inviting North to put a bid on Darcy now.

$10K is nothing compared to what Thilthorpe's next contract is going to be worth.

 

[Crow till I die]

If we end up with pick 1 or 2 we should bid on Darcy. Absolutely have to after Bevo's huge sook.

Would be a bit of a conundrum for us though - we are crying out for that elite mid an Darcy is a forward..but wow, can he play. Thilthorpe and Darcy - extremely talented twin towers up forward...but it won't happen. The dogs will 100% match any bid..they literally would be idiots not to for the value they would get by taking him

 

[70lethal]

The Vic coaches are becoming a real turn off
Hardwicke complaining about playing at Metricon
Bevo on being handed pick 1
Scott saying Mckay may have to get games after trying to defend Dangerfield
Clarkson and Ratten over holding the ball not being paid

 

[GrommoT]

If we were to beat Brisbane, we might be 1 game out of the 8...

 

[GrommoT]

...
“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”
...

Well, there's one at least.