List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

 

[70lethal]

It's also about retention cost
Is retaining a Victorian player more expensive than a South Australian player?

I'm not convinced the $$ come into it as much as we think with the Vic boys. A Vic player potentially has the opportunity of getting more compensation if handled correctly.
If they want to return like Gunston and Danger then $$ become irrelevant to a degree. Lever more complexed and we pushed brad out. Douglas, Talia didnt seem to be an issue money wise
Cost to retain as in most expensive i would rate
1. S.A. Davis and Bock
2. W.A. Cameron and McGovern

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Pretty crazy to think that the Dogs might a second rounder for their 8th (?) best mid and we’ll prob get the same for our best.

Who knows, might be a bit less than a 2nd, wherever HE wants to get to, he'll likely get to. Not like WB are going to able to compete with anyone threatening the PSD. Could be a 2nd or 3rd, who knows.

Darcy will be a Bulldog, and i seriously doubt Bulldogs will have any other capital to get in another decent player, particularly a 1st rounder

 

[Mutineer]

Agree - he’s a very clever player but at his height and without that top end speed it’s going to be hard for him

I reckon he’s a rookie or late pick at best

definitely won’t go early despite his talent

Cooper Murley is your boy then but reckon he goes as early as early 2nd round possibly, speed, pressure and ball use, might even go earlier if he finishes the season on a high and the Nationals go ahead, another I could see pinch hitting in the midfield as well.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Cooper Murley is your boy then but reckon he goes as early as early 2nd round possibly, speed, pressure and ball use, might even go earlier if he finishes the season on a high and the Nationals go ahead, another I could see pinch hitting in the midfield as well.

Yep … and like him more than Jackson as has more class

 

[JennyTalia]

Cooper Murley is your boy then but reckon he goes as early as early 2nd round possibly, speed, pressure and ball use, might even go earlier if he finishes the season on a high and the Nationals go ahead, another I could see pinch hitting in the midfield as well.

Do you think Cooper plays as a forward at the next level? I heard he has some good speed - which we are desperate for. Any idea what his forward nous is like?

 

[MRB37]

From Fox Sports

Draft picks: 3, 22, 37, 58, 64

List state of play: The Crows are already well stocked with inside on-ballers like Rory Laird

29

Rory Laird

Age

32

Ht

178cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

MG

367.5

5star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

255.3

4star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

, Ben Keays

2

Ben Keays

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

13.7

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

, Rory Sloane

9

Rory Sloane

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

11.9

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

6.6

5star

CL

5.7

5star

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

4star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

13.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

4.6

5star

and Harry Schoenberg. But what they lack in the midfield is class, particularly by foot. According to Champion Data, the Crows have the worst kick rating in the AFL this season, while they’re also ranked 17th for kicking efficiency.

Ideal draft prospects: In an absolute ideal world, the Crows nab Jason Horne – an outstanding South Australian midfield prospect who’s widely considered the best player in the ‘open’ draft pool. While Horne, who’s fitted in at senior SANFL level with aplomb, is renowned for his power and aggression at the contest, his ball use is just as impressive. According to Champion Data, he has the 10th-best kicking efficiency of the 41 SANFL midfielders to have had at least 100 kicks this year – a mighty effort considering his contested possession rate is 50 per cent. A tempting option for the Crows would be to trade up the draft order to Pick 1 in order to give them first access to Horne. Whether North would be willing to budge remains doubtful – Pick 1 is rarely genuinely on the trade table – but if the Crows want him, they’ll be in a decent bargaining position to do so. If Horne isn’t available, Sandringham Dragon Finn Callaghan also uses the ball well by foot and has great poise, both in tight and in space, which helps him break lines.

 

[Disco Fox]

From Fox Sports

And further to my earlier post re our "height challenged" current midfield Callaghan is 189cm - but, don't forget Johnson from WA as he may also fit the bill.

 

[bigman]

Bicks and others tell us your thoughts on Willis he together with Wagner and Motlop have come into twomeys draft team. Could Motlop be the forward With some X factor we need

 

[Dangerousfield]

What's the latest on GC and their pick 19 priority pick?

Did the AFL say this would be reviewed at the end of the year?

Pick 19 is "quarantined" until the AFL decide it's still required by GC to assist them in building a more competitive list or not now required. Decision will be made after the season ends and before the trade period.

They can still just add their academy players and Darwin players without having to draft them, free hits basically. They do have a top 20-25 player in their academy who will be added to their list pre draft. They are also allowed to have a larger list than the 17 other clubs, by 5 extra players.

And please don't bring up the inequality of it all and Priority Pick if we finish last - again! But let's plan to do that and get pick 1, it was great fun last draft.

 

[Crow till I die]

Mutineer Apparently Rosas Jnr is apparently OOC at the suns at the end of this year - would he be worth trying to trade in as a crafty small player?

 

[JennyTalia]

From Fox Sports

Horne kicking efficiency rated better than i suspected. Looks like he can bang it on the boot a bit - but maybe that's just his action. I'm still keen on Roberts because his left looks like a weapon.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

confirmed out for Carlton against Kangaroos...............

IT'S COMING HOME, IT"S COOOOMING HOME

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer Apparently Rosas Jnr is apparently OOC at the suns at the end of this year - would he be worth trying to trade in as a crafty small player?

Probably not, sooner go hard for Cooper Murley in the draft to fix our small forward role, a very complete footballer, there's also Isaiah Dudley if we don't have to give up much.

 

[Mutineer]

Bicks and others tell us your thoughts on Willis he together with Wagner and Motlop have come into twomeys draft team. Could Motlop be the forward With some X factor we need

Motlop is a Fremantle NGA for starters and nobody's going to bid before pick 20 so wherever he falls he'll be matched. There's better in our own backyard anyhow IMO Cooper Murley. Personally I really don't see any real points of difference in Willis that would put him above the other more fancied SA mids.

 

[Mutineer]

Horne kicking efficiency rated better than i suspected. Looks like he can bang it on the boot a bit - but maybe that's just his action. I'm still keen on Roberts because his left looks like a weapon.

Don't forget Jason has only been playing limited midfield minutes in South's league team which feeds into that. His kicking's alright but not on the same level as that of Matt Roberts.

 

[Crow till I die]

Probably not, sooner go hard for Cooper Murley in the draft to fix our small forward role, a very complete footballer, there's also Isaiah Dudley if we don't have to give up much.

where do you see Murley sitting in the overall draft - back of 1st round - mid 2nd round? and if both were on the board at say our 2nd rounder, would you go Murley over Arlo Draper?

 

[Mutineer]

where do you see Murley sitting in the overall draft - back of 1st round - mid 2nd round? and if both were on the board at say our 2nd rounder, would you go Murley over Arlo Draper?

My gut feel is Draper will go higher than a lot of the pundits seem to think so Murley might be more realistic at our 2nd but much will hinge on the Nationals if they're played. Murley is likely to play SANFL league in the back half of the season, Draper probably doesn't.

 

[Mutineer]

Do you think Cooper plays as a forward at the next level? I heard he has some good speed - which we are desperate for. Any idea what his forward nous is like?

That's where Norwood coach Jade Rawlings thinks his AFL future is, that's good enough a recommendation for me.

 

[Mutineer]

From Fox Sports

LOL, that's a joke given he's played limited midfield minutes.

 

[Mutineer]

And further to my earlier post re our "height challenged" current midfield Callaghan is 189cm - but, don't forget Johnson from WA as he may also fit the bill.

Then you best check out Josh Goater as he's 190cm and has those two easily covered for speed and athleticism

 

[bigman]

Motlop is a Fremantle NGA for starters and nobody's going to bid before pick 20 so wherever he falls he'll be matched. There's better in our own backyard anyhow IMO Cooper Murley. Personally I really don't see any real points of difference in Willis that would put him above the other more fancied SA mids.

Thanks for the feedback bicks. I also liked the look of Wagner from the swans. Quick hard at it. I wonder if his brother is a similar player

 

[hey shorty]

That's where Norwood coach Jade Rawlings thinks his AFL future is, that's good enough a recommendation for me.

Jade Rawlings is a WOEFUL coach, I wouldn't take much notice

 

[Mutineer]

Jade Rawlings is a WOEFUL coach, I wouldn't take much notice

Maybe if you watch Murley play you would agree with Rawlings" assessment, I certainly do.

 

[1990crow]

Big weekend for us. Go Hawks and Roos.
If we finish last would have to ask the question about a priority pick.

 

[Mutineer]

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AFL 2021: Eagles coach Adam Simpson on how Covid soft cap cuts could impact the draft

Eagles coach Adam Simpson has made a big statement, saying soft cap cuts mean it will now be harder to draft problem kids who are not from private schools.

West Coast Eagles coach Adam Simpson claims cuts to club finances could force recruiters to only draft kids from private schools and with two parents.
In a confronting interview on Thursday, Simpson declared it was becoming harder to pick kids who are a “hassle off field” because of reduced soft caps and resources.

“You’re more inclined to go safer in the draft and you’ll draft the same type of player – Mum and Dad are still married, kids go to the private school, not too much of a hassle off-field,” Simpson said on 3AW.

Clubs have been battling in the wake of the AFL cutting $6.2 million from football departments’ soft caps because of the ongoing Covid-19 crisis.

Simpson said it had impacted the club’s ability to take risk-takers in the draft.

“We’re probably a coach short and a couple of medicos short as well and I’ve said this before but it does affect who you draft and develop,” he said.

“You really want to go for the talent and geez this kid needs a lot of help, we can resource that with support around the mental health issues or family support or learning difficulties. These types of things you’re happy to take a risk on because you can resource it but we just don’t have that anymore.

“Where I think we all like to see the risk takers don’t we?

“The more resourcing we can have the more risk takers we can take and that’s probably the main thing and it’ll affect the product in the long run.”