News 2021 St.Kilda Media Thread

[Bill Mohr]

In a balls to the wall rebuild, or in a clear and unadulterated upswing I'd share the opinion that it would perhaps be time for Gears to give it away.

But given we've got at least half a dozen clear and obvious departures before we even get to "will some/all of Coffield/Ross/Dunstan/Billings leave" and other cases like "Will we keep one, both or neither of Clav and Joyce", I'd much prefer Geary hanging around than an extra draft pick beyond the 3rd round.

Couldnt they have held off until they sort out the other players? re Billings etc

 

[kosifantutti]

I’ve come cross a couple of good podcasts recently. The first is the BT sport AFL podcast with Josh Gabelich who I think is the guy who did the Saints show on sport 927 a few years back. It had a couple of interesting guests lately including Luke Dunstan

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and Darragh Joyce

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The other one is Saturday Afternoon Fever where Matthew Hardy reads his book about life, love and Trevor Barker and discusses some of the finer points with Lawrence Mooney.

Saturday Afternoon Fever – Matthew Hardy & Lawrence Mooney - Pod.casts

The Much-Loved Book About Growing Up In The Suburbs Becomes A Podcast Matthew Hardy, the author of Saturday Afternoon Fever, reads from his best-...

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Enjoy

 

[Ducky Tie]

I’ve come cross a couple of good podcasts recently. The first is the BT sport AFL podcast with Josh Gabelich who I think is the guy who did the Saints show on sport 927 a few years back. It had a couple of interesting guests lately including Luke Dunstan and Darragh Joyce.



The other one is Saturday Afternoon Fever where Matthew Hardy reads his book about life, love and Trevor Barker and discusses some of the finer points with Lawrence Mooney.

Saturday Afternoon Fever – Matthew Hardy & Lawrence Mooney - Pod.casts

The Much-Loved Book About Growing Up In The Suburbs Becomes A Podcast Matthew Hardy, the author of Saturday Afternoon Fever, reads from his best-...

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Enjoy

Thanks mate, always looking for new podcasts.

I've come across this one that I've enjoyed this year. Just three guys chatting footy. Two eps a week - a review of the games and a series of episodes on coaches of the AFL era. The reviews are good but I've really enjoyed the detailed analysis of some different coaching approaches - Blight, Matthews, Pagan etc.

 

[George]

I’ve come cross a couple of good podcasts recently. The first is the BT sport AFL podcast with Josh Gabelich who I think is the guy who did the Saints show on sport 927 a few years back. It had a couple of interesting guests lately including Luke Dunstan and Darragh Joyce.



The other one is Saturday Afternoon Fever where Matthew Hardy reads his book about life, love and Trevor Barker and discusses some of the finer points with Lawrence Mooney.

Saturday Afternoon Fever – Matthew Hardy & Lawrence Mooney - Pod.casts

The Much-Loved Book About Growing Up In The Suburbs Becomes A Podcast Matthew Hardy, the author of Saturday Afternoon Fever, reads from his best-...

pod.casts.io

Enjoy

Gabelich was the clubs reporter after Tom Morris left for Fox Footy.

 

[George]

(Michael Roberts interview 30 minutes in)

3.23: "Down, but not quite out..." ft. Michael Roberts

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[sammm]

Top AFL Commercial Partnerships: Melbourne, St Kilda, More - Ministry of Sport

As the 2021 AFL season continues on despite Australia’s current COVID-19 outbreak forcing changes to state borders and restrictions, here’s the top commercial partnerships from around the league in the past week.

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Hawthorn is really getting into the Saints homeland

 

[gringo2011]

Top AFL Commercial Partnerships: Melbourne, St Kilda, More - Ministry of Sport

As the 2021 AFL season continues on despite Australia’s current COVID-19 outbreak forcing changes to state borders and restrictions, here’s the top commercial partnerships from around the league in the past week.

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Hawthorn is really getting into the Saints homeland

Trying to invest in their methane site.

 

[gringo2011]

How a look back at the reel has helped 'Ronnie' thrive

A look back at the video tape is something Ryan Byrnes never would have considered doing to fast-track his growth, but doing so alongside Seb Ross and Brett Ratten has paid off big time.

www.saints.com.au

 

[Remboy]

This should free up some more crap space next year.

Hannebery takes a fresh approach - and less money - at the Saints

Dan Hannebery has not stopped trying to make things work at the Saints and he hopes renegotiated terms and a new outlook will help him bounce back to his best

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Hannebery takes a fresh approach - and less money - at the Saints

By Peter Ryan
August 7, 2021 — 8.00am
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St Kilda midfielder Dan Hannebery has decided to enter 2022 on a significantly-reduced contract after renegotiating the final year of his deal, which was guaranteed until the end of next year.
The 30-year-old not only hopes his call helps clear some salary cap space for the Saints but is an acknowledgment from him that, despite everyone’s best efforts, injury has stopped him from delivering what he hoped to in his first three years at the Saints.

Frustrating time: Daniel Hannebery

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working his way back through the VFL.CREDIT:AFL PHOTOS
“It has no doubt been the most frustrating two or three years of my career. It has been incredibly challenging,” Hannebery said.
“I just thought it was the right timing and the right thing to do, given the reality of where my situation lies.

“I am very accepting and understanding of the situation. I haven’t played anywhere near the footy that I have wanted to play, and they are in the same boat. They would have wanted me to play a lot more than I have and have more of an impact.”
Unfortunately a series of soft-tissue injuries have restricted him to just 13 games so far at the Saints as his body has acted like a university student’s car, breaking down whenever Hannebery needs it most.
That is nowhere near satisfactory for a competitor who places such high expectations on himself, having arrived at the end of 2018 with a simple purpose: to help the Saints reach finals and, ultimately, win a second flag.
Now he wants to play the last two games of this season, and then have a run at it next season and hopefully, if the recent corner he turned presents less obstacles than those he whizzed around before, the season beyond that.

Dan Hannebery celebrates after scoring a goal during the match between the Saints and the Western Bulldogs in round three last year.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
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But he wants to do it the right way, with a fresh outlook, on a fair deal that reflects reality, and with an emerging group that is driven to put the Saints in contention.
Used to being hit hard throughout his illustrious career, Hannebery received a shirtfront in about the middle of the year that rocked him more than most and set him on a new path.
The Saints were in Sydney and he was about a week away from returning to play when another soft-tissue hiccup occurred, and his heart sank.“I had been busting my arse and doing everything and thought ‘this has just been exhausting. I am mentally cooked,’ ” Hannebery said.Those who know Hannebery suspect he has, if anything, strived too hard to solve the problems his body seemed to attract since his hamstring first went at St Kilda just months after he arrived, having played 201 of Sydney’s previous 220 games, and been a premiership player and three-time All-Australian.

After returning last season to play well in the Saints’ first finals win for a decade, his calf kept getting nicks so minor a snickometer would have struggled to pick them up, derailing this season too.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...p-to-revive-their-season-20210716-p58a8x.html
However, he did not let up. So desperate was he to repay the club and their supporters, who he understood would share his frustration, he searched everywhere for a solution.
“At St Kilda, I have taken it to the next level at different stages,” Hannebery said.
“After training I would try to find other avenues, whether it be yoga, pilates, movement, DNS training (otherwise known as dynamic neuromuscular stabilisation), acupuncture, whatever it is I’ve been trying to work overtime to bridge the gap or find any area I can improve to give myself a chance to get back quick. Whether it be diet or sleep ... all these different things I have been hammering away at for a while.”
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“I’m investing 100 per cent. I want to try to finish my career playing some bloody good footy.”
Dan Hannebery

Finally, the mid-year setback forced him to re-evaluate his approach.
“Although spending a lot of your free time working on your body and trying to find ways to get better comes from a really good place, it actually almost creates more stress and anxieties, I guess, because you are trying to do everything you can possibly right,” Hannebery said.
“You put yourself under more pressure and then when things go don’t go to plan and you get setback after setback, it’s incredibly disheartening.”
It’s not only disheartening for him, he hastens to add, but for his dedicated support crew at the Saints that includes Steve Forcone, Andrew Wallis, Marcus Krygger, and Richard Citroen who have tirelessly worked under the bonnet for three seasons.
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Work with the club psychologist and a mindset coach helped him realise a balance is what is required, a difficult process for anyone who has found reward through hard work in the past.
At his return to the VFL a few weeks back, the extended Hannebery and O’Sullivan clan (his mum Geraldine is one of 12) all attended, showing not only their love for him but their admiration for the effort he has put in to get back to doing what he does best.
He appreciated their support as he knows they have seen him, in his words, “as flat as a biscuit” during this period as the rollercoaster ride kept going.
The only thing he can continue to be is himself, a charged-up, open book who is giving all he has got to make his involvement with the Saints work. No-one could ask for more.
“I’m investing 100 per cent. I want to try to finish my career playing some bloody good footy,” Hannebery said.

 

[Strahany]

I wonder if there was any contractual leverage utilised by the Saints to get Hanners onto a smaller contract, or if this was a purely charitable thing on his end. If the latter is true, then it’s an excellent move from Dan, and possibly hints at a big signing…..?

 

[Remboy]

I wonder if there was any contractual leverage utilised by the Saints to get Hanners onto a smaller contract, or if this was a purely charitable thing on his end. If the latter is true, then it’s an excellent move from Dan, and possibly hints at a big signing…..?

It’s probably more likely to come from Hannebery. The club‘s got no leverage. I like to think he’s initiated it partly in good faith, partly to take some pressure off himself and partly to allow the club more room to sign players.
We’ll have a lot of space under the cap with the players who are retiring, the COVID reduction out of the way and other guys leaving or taking a pay cut.
The only problem will be who do we give the money to? We have to pay 95% so I hope we are getting some players in who are worth it.

 

[bergholt]

Yeah had to come from Hanners. Maybe he added a trigger next year for the year after, but either way this shows super strong character in him.

Also I suppose great PR from his perspective, rather than being seen as a leech, he’ll now have a long term good bloke reputation.

 

[botts]

I wonder if there was any contractual leverage utilised by the Saints to get Hanners onto a smaller contract, or if this was a purely charitable thing on his end. If the latter is true, then it’s an excellent move from Dan, and possibly hints at a big signing…..?

Caro and a few others did say we are putting together a god father offer for Ben king. If billing’s stay for less and hanners. Not to mention if we loose spook then that’s a bit of cash. I don’t want Caro to be right about much but on this one I do

 

[CaptainRisky]

In a balls to the wall rebuild, or in a clear and unadulterated upswing I'd share the opinion that it would perhaps be time for Gears to give it away.

But given we've got at least half a dozen clear and obvious departures before we even get to "will some/all of Coffield/Ross/Dunstan/Billings leave" and other cases like "Will we keep one, both or neither of Clav and Joyce", I'd much prefer Geary hanging around than an extra draft pick beyond the 3rd round.

Where did you pluck Coff from , he is going no where , Plus he is contracted until end of 2023

 

[Highlander35]

Where did you pluck Coff from , he is going no where , Plus he is contracted until end of 2023

A few rumours floating around that Hawks/North/Maybe someone else was interested in Coff. Can't remember if it was here, SEN, twitter or the actual 4th Estate, but it was somewhere.

 

[Saint Shags]

Caro and a few others did say we are putting together a god father offer for Ben king. If billing’s stay for less and hanners. Not to mention if we loose spook then that’s a bit of cash. I don’t want Caro to be right about much but on this one I do

I think the only way we get Ben is if we manage somehow to get some extra picks.
And then it's the matter of who do we lose to get those picks.

 

[CaptainRisky]

A few rumours floating around that Hawks/North/Maybe someone else was interested in Coff. Can't remember if it was here, SEN, twitter or the actual 4th Estate, but it was somewhere.

Maybe it was Scoops , then its got to be true

 

[botts]

I think the only way we get Ben is if we manage somehow to get some extra picks.
And then it's the matter of who do we lose to get those picks.

How much cash can we bank next year to put towards a tilt at him at the end of 2022. We will need heaps of picks but not as many if he is out of contract

 

[jwikked]

How much cash can we bank next year to put towards a tilt at him at the end of 2022. We will need heaps of picks but not as many if he is out of contract

I don't see how. He's not going to walk to the draft, there are plenty of Vic teams that would pick him up too. IT's one thing to want to move back home to Melbourne, but why should Gold Coast ensure he ends up at St Kilda?

The idea that his contract finishing making it easier for St Kilda just doesn't add up to me.

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Unless he wants to come and play as a KPD then throwing a god offer at Ben would be a massive waste of money and draft picks.

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[Squirtles]

I don't see how. He's not going to walk to the draft, there are plenty of Vic teams that would pick him up too. IT's one thing to want to move back home to Melbourne, but why should Gold Coast ensure he ends up at St Kilda?

The idea that his contract finishing making it easier for St Kilda just doesn't add up to me.

There is no way Gold Coast is not aware that we would be pushing to bring him back to Melbourne I would be looking to off load him now where we can land as many picks as possible rather than next year when he’s out of contract

 

[jwikked]

There is no way Gold Coast is not aware that we would be pushing to bring him back to Melbourne I would be looking to off load him now where we can land as many picks as possible rather than next year when he’s out of contract

The point is, just because he's out of contract doesn't mean Gold Coast won't trade him to another Vic team if they are willing to give them a better outcome.

 

[Squirtles]

Unless he wants to come and play as a KPD then throwing a god offer at Ben would be a massive waste of money and draft picks.

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Are you serious? You can see the benefit of having a extra tall up forward helps just look at impact paddy or Marshall have by drawing another defender

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Are you serious? You can see the benefit of having a extra tall up forward helps just look at impact paddy or Marshall have by drawing another defender

Yeah he can share the 6 inside 50's we have a quarter with the other 3 while the opposition talls continue to kick bags on us every week.

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[Munga]

Top AFL Commercial Partnerships: Melbourne, St Kilda, More - Ministry of Sport

As the 2021 AFL season continues on despite Australia’s current COVID-19 outbreak forcing changes to state borders and restrictions, here’s the top commercial partnerships from around the league in the past week.

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Hawthorn is really getting into the Saints homeland

What the hell is this? Are they pinching $5mil directly from our area? That's next level shit