List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[FrogDude]

Do we have any NGA players available other than Mackenzie that could get selected?

Sam Latreille and Angus McLennan would be the main two that may be taken as a Cat B Rookie, though only one would be picked

 

[BrutThough]

Do we have any NGA players available other than Mackenzie that could get selected?

No, we've only nominated McKenzie

 

[phantom13]

1. Greater Western Sydney - Aaron Cadman
2. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel
5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
6. Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
7. Hawthorn - Mattaes Phillipou
8. Geelong - Jhye Clark
9. West Coast - Reuben Ginbey
10. St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger
11. Brisbane - Jaspa Fletcher
12. Carlton - Oliver Hollands
13. Western Bulldogs - Ed Allan
14. West Coast - Cam Mackenzie
15. Melbourne - Matthew Jefferson
16. Sydney - Josh Weddle
17. Greater Western Sydney - Elijah Hewett
18. Collingwood - Jakob Ryan
19. Sydney - Harry Barnett
20. Greater Western Sydney - Charlie Clarke
21. Greater Western Sydney - Lewis Hayes
22. Essendon - Alwyn Davey Jr
23. West Coast - Darcy Jones
24. Adelaide - Max Michalanney
25. Western Bulldogs - Brayden George
26. North Melbourne - Lachie Cowan
27. Hawthorn - Max Gruzewski
28. Collingwood - Henry Hustwaite
29.West Coast - Kaleb Smith
30. Collingwood - Joe Richards

From another thread may not be accurate

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Backline gonna be
Battle Howard Wilkie
Busslinger Cordy Membrey

Just make em all tall, can’t beat that.

 

[Joffaboy]

St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger​

East Perth/WA – Key defender, 196cm, 82kg​

The Saints would like to add another key defender to their list and Busslinger is the best available this year. It would mean potentially overlooking Next Generation Academy prospect and classy midfielder Cameron Mackenzie, who impressed while training with St Kilda earlier this year and is rated a top-10 prospect by many. However, Busslinger looks a more sensible option on a needs basis. A forward in his earlier junior playing days, the East Perth product impressed with his intercepting down back during the national championships and has said it would be “exciting” to move to one of the eastern states.

We take a key defender over a midfielder I will spew up.

 

[StCicatriz]

St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger​

East Perth/WA – Key defender, 196cm, 82kg​

The Saints would like to add another key defender to their list and Busslinger is the best available this year. It would mean potentially overlooking Next Generation Academy prospect and classy midfielder Cameron Mackenzie, who impressed while training with St Kilda earlier this year and is rated a top-10 prospect by many. However, Busslinger looks a more sensible option on a needs basis. A forward in his earlier junior playing days, the East Perth product impressed with his intercepting down back during the national championships and has said it would be “exciting” to move to one of the eastern states.

We take a key defender over a midfielder I will spew up.

we have a terrible history of drafting them

 

[botts]

we have a terrible history of drafting them

Just lazy by this jurno

 

[Joffaboy]

we have a terrible history of drafting them

Been crying out for top line mids for over a decade, Billings, missed Bont, Dunstan and Acres, both gone, McCartin, missed Petracca, 2017 I suppose we got best available, not really a midfield draft, Max was a dead set lock, and Bytel was a speculator that hasn't happened.
Really only last years did we get value for our mids selections. Get a quality mid @ 10 and look at a defender later in the draft. We can do with what we have and Cordy coming in.

 

[saintmike65]

Cmac thank you.
The Poo could become a star or may well go the way of Jayden Stephenson or anything in between. Cmac goes like the energizer bunny which is the main trait that transfers to AFL. Plus the kicking, plus the tackles, plus the...

For star power and upside, I’d take Phillipou..extremely talented already and doesn’t turn 18 until late next month!!

 

[Mighty_sainter]

I have a feeling we are up to something with Elijah hewwet. He confirmed he’s spoken to Ross Lyon in an interview recently but interestingly has not been invited to night one of the draft. I have a feeling we have a live trade lined up with a club on draft night with future picks involved. There’s no way hewwit gets to our second pick and what’s the point of him speaking to Ross Lyon if he’s not a legitimate chance of being selected by us?

 

[stavro#4]

GOLD Coast's interest in gun WA midfielder Reuben Ginbey looks to have intensified after a late trip to the ball-winner's hometown this week for a meeting with his family.

 

[RWB4life]

I have a feeling we are up to something with Elijah hewwet. He confirmed he’s spoken to Ross Lyon in an interview recently but interestingly has not been invited to night one of the draft. I have a feeling we have a live trade lined up with a club on draft night with future picks involved. There’s no way hewwit gets to our second pick and what’s the point of him speaking to Ross Lyon if he’s not a legitimate chance of being selected by us?

The only chance is if ginbey or busslinger don't get taken before us and the everyone else is gone. Then it's a choice of the wa boys and Holland's. Maybe they rate hewett above the rest?

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[Mighty_sainter]

The only chance is if ginbey or busslinger don't get taken before us and the everyone else is gone. Then it's a choice of the wa boys and Holland's. Maybe they rate hewett above the rest?

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Gold Coast extremely keen on ginbey and I can’t see him getting past west coast. If we were even looking at him with our first surely he would cop an invite for the first night of the draft

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

1. Greater Western Sydney - Aaron Cadman
2. Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
3. North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
4. North Melbourne - Harry Sheezel
5. Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
6. Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
7. Hawthorn - Mattaes Phillipou
8. Geelong - Jhye Clark
9. West Coast - Reuben Ginbey
10. St Kilda - Jedd Busslinger
11. Brisbane - Jaspa Fletcher
12. Carlton - Oliver Hollands
13. Western Bulldogs - Ed Allan
14. West Coast - Cam Mackenzie
15. Melbourne - Matthew Jefferson
16. Sydney - Josh Weddle
17. Greater Western Sydney - Elijah Hewett
18. Collingwood - Jakob Ryan
19. Sydney - Harry Barnett
20. Greater Western Sydney - Charlie Clarke
21. Greater Western Sydney - Lewis Hayes
22. Essendon - Alwyn Davey Jr
23. West Coast - Darcy Jones
24. Adelaide - Max Michalanney
25. Western Bulldogs - Brayden George
26. North Melbourne - Lachie Cowan
27. Hawthorn - Max Gruzewski
28. Collingwood - Henry Hustwaite
29.West Coast - Kaleb Smith
30. Collingwood - Joe Richards

From another thread may not be accurate

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Saints take Elijah Hewett or Cam MacKenzie, Phillipou if he slides out.
Then they can pick up Ethan Phillips or James Van Es, later in the draft, as the KPD.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Feels like Wardlaw is the mystery man in this draft. Everyone has accepted the fact that he's going to North with pick 3 or 4, and he hasn't got anywhere near the media attention of the other mids in the draft. Is he really that much better than the other options to be such a certain lock?

Watch his highlights, he's an explosive bull.

 

[ScrappyDo]

For star power and upside, I’d take Phillipou..extremely talented already and doesn’t turn 18 until late next month!!

Except there's not a recruiter out there who's ever made a career out of finding stars. Thats a myth proliferated by gringo.
Any of the top 10 draftees have a similar 1/20 chance of stardom, whilst they have a much more likely 1/5 chance of spudom.
Over time if you avoid enough of the 1/5 spuds you end up with a 1/20 through weight of numbers.

 

[stavro#4]

Would break the draft order open again

 

[aussierulesrules]

A bad draft can set you back years, the point about drafting flankers is spot on..the drafting of Billings, Clark and Coffield as high picks has really stifled our midfield for a long time!

I’ll say/ask it again. Who were the ‘mids’ we should have taken at picks 7 and 8 in that 2017 draft?

The only two guys who went after those picks who have since become even remotely established in AFL midfields are Tim Kelly (who went in the mid-20’s, and requested a trade home after just 1 year!) and the very average James Worpel (who went in the 40’s).

Just because you want or need ‘mids’ doesn’t mean you can just pluck them from the sky.

As for Billings’ draft, sure in hindsight Bont has become the ‘mid’ we would love to have, but at the time he was a speculative type, who wasn’t a consensus top 5 pick, who’s best position was unclear, while Billings was a consensus top 3 pick (who Melbourne would have taken at 2, had they not traded that pick to GWS).

While none of the other guys in the mix at that pick have gone on to establish themselves in midfields at AFL level.

The next one taken in that draft to do so was Dom Sheed at 11, but he was never in the mix at 3, and wouldn’t have been a ‘gamechanger’ for us anyway, even if we had reached for him at 3.

 

[Yabadoo22]

Starting to take shape I reckon.
1-gws: cadman
2-Lions: Ashcroft
3-north: sheezel
4-north: wardlaw
5-ess: phillipou
6-suns: ginbey
7-hawks: humphrey
8-cats: Clark/tsatas
9-eagles: Clark/McKenzie
10-saints: whoever is left out of Clark, McKenzie,tsatas. Usually I have a clear preference, but this year I’m torn. I wouldn’t be unhappy with either of them 3 boys.

 

[CursingFijian]

I have a feeling we are up to something with Elijah hewwet. He confirmed he’s spoken to Ross Lyon in an interview recently but interestingly has not been invited to night one of the draft. I have a feeling we have a live trade lined up with a club on draft night with future picks involved. There’s no way hewwit gets to our second pick and what’s the point of him speaking to Ross Lyon if he’s not a legitimate chance of being selected by us?

It probably doesn’t hurt to signal the Eagles that any plan to take CMac off the table may result in Hewett going before 12.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I watched a fair bit of Goddard. I thought his only bit of good form was just before we dumped him. He moved like the QE II.

He moved like the QE2 after the injuries and after he piled on a huge amount of weight in a short time.

At his combine he recorded an extremely quick 2.98sec 20m sprint, which is quicker than the times even guys like Petracca recorded.

For someone his height, he had genuinely elite speed when drafted.

And his first season with us was extremely promising, holding down a key position at just 18yo, which only the most talented are able to do. Even having 20 disposals in one game.

But then in the following preseason he said his weight was about 10 kilos more than when he was drafted (just a tick under 12 months earlier), which in hindsight was probably way too much weight to put on in such a short period of time.

He then had that heat exhaustion over that preseason, and from the first time we saw him in the intra-club that season, until he ruptured his achilles, he looked like a shadow of the guy who had looked so promising the previous year.

And for whatever reason, he never got it back.

It was like the Luke Ball situation. He went from having elite speed when drafted, to as you say, moving like the QE2.

Was so disappointing, as he could definitely play.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Starting to take shape I reckon.
1-gws: cadman
2-Lions: Ashcroft
3-north: sheezel
4-north: wardlaw
5-ess: phillipou
6-suns: ginbey
7-hawks: humphrey
8-cats: Clark/tsatas
9-eagles: Clark/McKenzie
10-saints: whoever is left out of Clark, McKenzie,tsatas. Usually I have a clear preference, but this year I’m torn. I wouldn’t be unhappy with either of them 3 boys.

This makes more sense.Humphrey was on radio saying the Hawks have had multiple interviews with him and more than any other club.

 

[bird_man]

He’s a much bigger body then mills and can use his size. As I’ve said reminds me of Mundy

Not sure where you got that from, he's exactly the same height and weight as Mills was in his draft year.

I think Mills is actually a very good comparison, especially the way he moves his way through traffic

 

[BigMonty]

Apart from the 15cm height difference

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We have mid fielders bigger than Ruckman of the 60s Big Nick 6ft2. Alan Morrow just over 6ft1.
So Crimmins compared to McKenzie is valid. He looks and moves similarly.

Details details always Bloody details.....[emoji13]

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[John2010362340]

CMac strikes me as exactly the kinda player Sam Mitchell would love…

 

[triggering bro]

Jhye Clark also looks good. Pretty much all the scenarios result in a good outcome.