List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread

doggies ftw · Oct 16, 2022

Man I want this bloke at 21

Angak · Oct 16, 2022

TommyD13 said:
Okay finally come to my conclusion. Our first pick, if it remains around the 11 mark, my first preference is Elijah Hewett. Closely followed by Oli Hotton, and Hollands. We need burst speed and class and from what I have seen and read, these three fit the bill perfectly, whilst also being somewhat unique to each other.

I like Elijah Hewitt a lot at 11.

Such quick feet in & around stoppages. Once he puts on more size & strength I can see him becoming an explosive stoppage player.

What's the knock on him ?

flipper83 · Oct 16, 2022

VitalDread said:
WESTERN BULLDOGS
Draft picks: 11, 21, 39, 69

List needs: Key defender, wingman, small forward

Who could be available at first pick: Jedd Busslinger, Mattaes Phillipou, Oliver Hollands, Olli Hotton

Who’s in the mix after that: Henry Hustwaite, Lewis Hayes, Jaspa Fletcher, Josh Weddle

The Bulldogs have a solid draft hand and should be able to fill some list holes with their first and second picks. South Australian midfielder-forward Mattaes Phillipou would be a good option with their first pick if he falls outside the top-10. West Australian key defender Jedd Busslinger would be another good option, with the club’s key defensive stocks looking a touch thin. After Lachie Hunter’s departure during the trade period, hard-running wingman Oliver Hollands would also be handy. With pick 21, Victorian key defenders Lewis Hayes and Josh Weddle could be available if the Bulldogs don’t secure Busslinger with pick 11. Henry Hustwaite is a tall midfielder who can play midfield or defence, while Jaspa Fletcher is another handy wingman but is a NGA prospect for Brisbane.

Latest word: Mattaes Phillipou is the son of Sam Phillipou, who played only three games in his one season with Footscray in 1995 but also enjoyed a successful career in the SANFL.

Where's this from? It seems too accurate and insightful for any of the mainstream football media sites.

goodcop badcop · Oct 16, 2022

Angak said:
I like Elijah Hewitt a lot at 11.

Such quick feet in & around stoppages. Once he puts on more size & strength I can see him becoming an explosive stoppage player.

What's the knock on him ?

Kicking, composure and consistently of effort is the knocks I have. He will have games where he looks unreal both offensively and defensively and other games where he really doesn't seem to put as much effort in as he could particularly defensively.

I think he's a bit overrated myself.

Bulldogs85 · Oct 16, 2022

Come across the first phantom Draft

Six weeks out from the 2022 AFL Draft, this is The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft.

The Giants have a choice of anointing Cadman the number-one pick, or bidding on Will Ashcroft as the consensus best player in the pool. Either way, they look set to bolster their key position stocks with the mobile goal-kicker who’s had a meteoric rise in the second half of the season. Jesse Hogan has been crying out for a partner up forward, and Cadman could feature early in 2023 for GWS.

Around the mark: Will Ashcroft

Brisbane has known Ashcroft is coming for years now. He’s been a standout across his junior career and took any lingering stress away from the Lions camp with an early father-son nomination this year. Prolific and classy with leadership aspirations, Ashcroft plays in the mould of Sam Walsh and Andy Brayshaw before him. The Lions have got their eyes firmly set on younger brother Levi in 2024, as well.

11 months since calling out Jason Horne-Francis’ name at Pick 1, North Melbourne is approaching one of the biggest drafts in its history. It will likely narrow down its options to two of Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw and Elijah Tsatas. Sheezel is the forward-half specialist in this group, able to create a plethora of chances and make the most of his opportunities with mercurial talent in front of goal. He has elements of Josh Rachele and Zac Bailey with his timing and execution in the forward 50, threatening to kick goal of the year on any given day.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw, Elijah Tsatas

North’s decision at this point is difficult to split, but the best available on most boards will be Wardlaw. He’s a prototypical inside midfielder with his competitiveness, but has a penetrating kick and aerial ability around the ground to go with it. Wardlaw’s hard-nosed talent blends well with a young midfield brigade of Simpkin, Davies-Uniacke and Phillips for the next decade.

Around the mark: Harry Sheezel, Elijah Tsatas

The Dons are in an enviable position, able to pluck whoever remains of the top five. Tsatas adds elements to their lineup that they sorely lack – he’s an outside accumulator that swoops on loose balls with cleanliness, he links play together with his running capacity and acceleration, and he takes the game on with unflappable confidence. Tsatas offers meaningful drive to a midfield unit that struggled to move the ball with pace in 2022.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw

The Suns have Pick 5 after Izak Rankine’s departure to Adelaide, and may have an opportunity to replace his attacking threat with a different element. The Gippsland captain is dynamic in the forward 50 with a huge appetite for the contest in the middle as well. Humphrey is a fantastic clubman, but the Suns will be doing their due diligence on his interest in heading north.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Hawks have gutted their midfield and are ready to fill it to the brim with young talent. That process began last year with Josh Ward and Connor MacDonald, and Jhye Clark presents as the ideal prospect at this point of the draft. He’s gritty and tough, has excellent leadership attributes and is team-oriented. The Hawks pinching him a pick before the rival Cats might be the cherry on top.

Around the mark: Bailey Humphrey, Cam Mackenzie

The Cats will be holding out hope Selwood-clone Clark falls to them here. If not, the next best on a lot of boards will be Mackenzie, a hard-running two-way midfielder with crafty skills and contested proficiency. He offers a lot of the same qualities Geelong saw in Mitch Knevitt last year. As a hypothetical, the Cats could offer up this pick and their future first for the Hawks’ Pick 6 and future second if they don’t think Clark will make it through.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Eagles traded back from Pick 2 for 8 and 12, seemingly with local prospects in their sights. Ginbey is the ultimate competitor in an Elliot Yeo mould, adding elite pressure in the contest. The Dunsborough product has spent time as a rebounding defender where his pace and tenacity are on display, but his most eye-catching work has come as a brute force in the midfield.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Cam Mackenzie

The Saints are desperately in need of some excitement on-field after consecutive flat seasons. Phillipou offers just that as a ready-made goal-kicker that has spent time in the midfield, using his size to advantage around the ground. He has huge scope for rapid improvement and adds a completely different element to the forward half for St Kilda.

Around the mark: Cam Mackenzie

If Busslinger slides out of the top 10, the Blues should be quick to snap the interceptor up. The Royal closes distance on his direct opponent, flies for his marks and moves the ball with pace out of the backline. The Blues have looked to the State Leagues to lend Weitering added assistance, but it may be time to fully invest in their key defensive stocks through the draft.

Around the mark: Mattaes Phillipou

More AFL News:

AFL Draft 2022: Top 30 Power Rankings – October

AFL: Your club’s way-too-early best 23 for 2023

AFL Trade Period 2022: Who’s come and gone from your club?

The Dogs have a plethora of see-ball, get-ball midfielders that are brilliant at what they do. But they’ve struggled finding the right wing combinations to maintain their structure, and Lachie Hunter heading to Melbourne doesn’t help that issue. Hollands is a selfless midfielder that just took out the 2km time trial in an elite 5:54 minutes. He holds his width on the ground and uses the ball on both sides of his body well – despite his lighter frame he could play AFL early in the right role.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Elijah Hewett

The Eagles haven’t solely looked within WA in past drafts, but there’s good reason to here. If Hewett is available at 13, he and Ginbey would immediately energise their engine room. he uses his speed-endurance blend as a weapon, powering out of stoppages and generating meaningful drive. He mixed it with the big bodies in the WAFL and added some goal nous to his game over the year.

Around the mark: Matthew Jefferson, Reuben Ginbey

Vic Metro’s best tall forward was Jefferson this year. He’s springy and quick off the mark akin to Ollie Henry, but has genuine key position height. The Dees have lost Sam Weideman and struggled without Tom McDonald in 2022 – Jefferson could be the future focal point for their forward line.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett

Weddle has a lot of fans in the first round – he’s slightly undersized as a key defender but uses all of his attributes to thrive. He has a fantastic leap, uses his body to advantage, and takes the game on with his intercepting and decision-making. He has similar elements to what made Dane Rampe such a fantastic undersized defender.

Around the mark: Lachlan Cowan, Henry Hustwaite

The younger brother of Collingwood’s VFL captain, Hustwaite is a fluid mover that can play in the middle or down back with his height. His left foot is a weapon and he moves through traffic smoothly to distribute to outside runners. A Country teammate of Cadman, the Giants could use Hustwaite’s ball use and intercepting out of their backline, with further scope to move into the midfield.

Around the mark: Josh Weddle, Lewis Hayes

Hayes is a no-nonsense key defender that gives his absolute all and rarely gets beaten. The Pies have done tremendously with the combination of Moore and Howe, but they’ve dearly missed Jordan Roughead’s presence. Billy Frampton could be a stop-gap for now, but Hayes presents as a long-term solution.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett, Isaac Keeler

Cowan is a high-octane defender that takes the game on and lifts his team with courageous play. For the Swans, he would add metres gained out of the backline and a genuine shutdown defensive option to free the likes of Blakey, Lloyd and Florent.

Around the mark: Olli Hotton, Henry Hustwaite

Konstanty has delivered a fantastic small forward year, racking up tackles and goals for Gippsland. He latches onto opposition players and pressures everything out of the backline for his side. The Giants will welcome Toby Bedford and have Brent Daniels coming back in this year, but they’ve sorely lacked pressure in their forward 50. Drafting a trio of Vic Country teammates in Cadman, Hustwaite and Konstanty might help the club hold onto the talented youngsters.

Around the mark: Isaac Keeler, Lachlan Cowan

weltschmerz · Oct 16, 2022

Bulldogs85 said:
Come across the first phantom Draft

Six weeks out from the 2022 AFL Draft, this is The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft.

The Giants have a choice of anointing Cadman the number-one pick, or bidding on Will Ashcroft as the consensus best player in the pool. Either way, they look set to bolster their key position stocks with the mobile goal-kicker who’s had a meteoric rise in the second half of the season. Jesse Hogan has been crying out for a partner up forward, and Cadman could feature early in 2023 for GWS.

Around the mark: Will Ashcroft

Brisbane has known Ashcroft is coming for years now. He’s been a standout across his junior career and took any lingering stress away from the Lions camp with an early father-son nomination this year. Prolific and classy with leadership aspirations, Ashcroft plays in the mould of Sam Walsh and Andy Brayshaw before him. The Lions have got their eyes firmly set on younger brother Levi in 2024, as well.

11 months since calling out Jason Horne-Francis’ name at Pick 1, North Melbourne is approaching one of the biggest drafts in its history. It will likely narrow down its options to two of Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw and Elijah Tsatas. Sheezel is the forward-half specialist in this group, able to create a plethora of chances and make the most of his opportunities with mercurial talent in front of goal. He has elements of Josh Rachele and Zac Bailey with his timing and execution in the forward 50, threatening to kick goal of the year on any given day.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw, Elijah Tsatas

North’s decision at this point is difficult to split, but the best available on most boards will be Wardlaw. He’s a prototypical inside midfielder with his competitiveness, but has a penetrating kick and aerial ability around the ground to go with it. Wardlaw’s hard-nosed talent blends well with a young midfield brigade of Simpkin, Davies-Uniacke and Phillips for the next decade.

Around the mark: Harry Sheezel, Elijah Tsatas

The Dons are in an enviable position, able to pluck whoever remains of the top five. Tsatas adds elements to their lineup that they sorely lack – he’s an outside accumulator that swoops on loose balls with cleanliness, he links play together with his running capacity and acceleration, and he takes the game on with unflappable confidence. Tsatas offers meaningful drive to a midfield unit that struggled to move the ball with pace in 2022.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw

The Suns have Pick 5 after Izak Rankine’s departure to Adelaide, and may have an opportunity to replace his attacking threat with a different element. The Gippsland captain is dynamic in the forward 50 with a huge appetite for the contest in the middle as well. Humphrey is a fantastic clubman, but the Suns will be doing their due diligence on his interest in heading north.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Hawks have gutted their midfield and are ready to fill it to the brim with young talent. That process began last year with Josh Ward and Connor MacDonald, and Jhye Clark presents as the ideal prospect at this point of the draft. He’s gritty and tough, has excellent leadership attributes and is team-oriented. The Hawks pinching him a pick before the rival Cats might be the cherry on top.

Around the mark: Bailey Humphrey, Cam Mackenzie

The Cats will be holding out hope Selwood-clone Clark falls to them here. If not, the next best on a lot of boards will be Mackenzie, a hard-running two-way midfielder with crafty skills and contested proficiency. He offers a lot of the same qualities Geelong saw in Mitch Knevitt last year. As a hypothetical, the Cats could offer up this pick and their future first for the Hawks’ Pick 6 and future second if they don’t think Clark will make it through.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Eagles traded back from Pick 2 for 8 and 12, seemingly with local prospects in their sights. Ginbey is the ultimate competitor in an Elliot Yeo mould, adding elite pressure in the contest. The Dunsborough product has spent time as a rebounding defender where his pace and tenacity are on display, but his most eye-catching work has come as a brute force in the midfield.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Cam Mackenzie

The Saints are desperately in need of some excitement on-field after consecutive flat seasons. Phillipou offers just that as a ready-made goal-kicker that has spent time in the midfield, using his size to advantage around the ground. He has huge scope for rapid improvement and adds a completely different element to the forward half for St Kilda.

Around the mark: Cam Mackenzie

If Busslinger slides out of the top 10, the Blues should be quick to snap the interceptor up. The Royal closes distance on his direct opponent, flies for his marks and moves the ball with pace out of the backline. The Blues have looked to the State Leagues to lend Weitering added assistance, but it may be time to fully invest in their key defensive stocks through the draft.

Around the mark: Mattaes Phillipou

More AFL News:
AFL Draft 2022: Top 30 Power Rankings – October

AFL: Your club’s way-too-early best 23 for 2023

AFL Trade Period 2022: Who’s come and gone from your club?

The Dogs have a plethora of see-ball, get-ball midfielders that are brilliant at what they do. But they’ve struggled finding the right wing combinations to maintain their structure, and Lachie Hunter heading to Melbourne doesn’t help that issue. Hollands is a selfless midfielder that just took out the 2km time trial in an elite 5:54 minutes. He holds his width on the ground and uses the ball on both sides of his body well – despite his lighter frame he could play AFL early in the right role.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Elijah Hewett

The Eagles haven’t solely looked within WA in past drafts, but there’s good reason to here. If Hewett is available at 13, he and Ginbey would immediately energise their engine room. he uses his speed-endurance blend as a weapon, powering out of stoppages and generating meaningful drive. He mixed it with the big bodies in the WAFL and added some goal nous to his game over the year.

Around the mark: Matthew Jefferson, Reuben Ginbey

Vic Metro’s best tall forward was Jefferson this year. He’s springy and quick off the mark akin to Ollie Henry, but has genuine key position height. The Dees have lost Sam Weideman and struggled without Tom McDonald in 2022 – Jefferson could be the future focal point for their forward line.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett

Weddle has a lot of fans in the first round – he’s slightly undersized as a key defender but uses all of his attributes to thrive. He has a fantastic leap, uses his body to advantage, and takes the game on with his intercepting and decision-making. He has similar elements to what made Dane Rampe such a fantastic undersized defender.

Around the mark: Lachlan Cowan, Henry Hustwaite

The younger brother of Collingwood’s VFL captain, Hustwaite is a fluid mover that can play in the middle or down back with his height. His left foot is a weapon and he moves through traffic smoothly to distribute to outside runners. A Country teammate of Cadman, the Giants could use Hustwaite’s ball use and intercepting out of their backline, with further scope to move into the midfield.

Around the mark: Josh Weddle, Lewis Hayes

Hayes is a no-nonsense key defender that gives his absolute all and rarely gets beaten. The Pies have done tremendously with the combination of Moore and Howe, but they’ve dearly missed Jordan Roughead’s presence. Billy Frampton could be a stop-gap for now, but Hayes presents as a long-term solution.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett, Isaac Keeler

Cowan is a high-octane defender that takes the game on and lifts his team with courageous play. For the Swans, he would add metres gained out of the backline and a genuine shutdown defensive option to free the likes of Blakey, Lloyd and Florent.

Around the mark: Olli Hotton, Henry Hustwaite

Konstanty has delivered a fantastic small forward year, racking up tackles and goals for Gippsland. He latches onto opposition players and pressures everything out of the backline for his side. The Giants will welcome Toby Bedford and have Brent Daniels coming back in this year, but they’ve sorely lacked pressure in their forward 50. Drafting a trio of Vic Country teammates in Cadman, Hustwaite and Konstanty might help the club hold onto the talented youngsters.

Around the mark: Isaac Keeler, Lachlan Cowan

That's a lot of guys we like gone in the first round. Charlie Clarke and Ethan Phillips with our other picks.

Northernsoul74 · Oct 16, 2022

Bulldogs85 said:
Come across the first phantom Draft

Six weeks out from the 2022 AFL Draft, this is The Inner Sanctum’s First Round AFL Phantom Draft.

The Giants have a choice of anointing Cadman the number-one pick, or bidding on Will Ashcroft as the consensus best player in the pool. Either way, they look set to bolster their key position stocks with the mobile goal-kicker who’s had a meteoric rise in the second half of the season. Jesse Hogan has been crying out for a partner up forward, and Cadman could feature early in 2023 for GWS.

Around the mark: Will Ashcroft

Brisbane has known Ashcroft is coming for years now. He’s been a standout across his junior career and took any lingering stress away from the Lions camp with an early father-son nomination this year. Prolific and classy with leadership aspirations, Ashcroft plays in the mould of Sam Walsh and Andy Brayshaw before him. The Lions have got their eyes firmly set on younger brother Levi in 2024, as well.

11 months since calling out Jason Horne-Francis’ name at Pick 1, North Melbourne is approaching one of the biggest drafts in its history. It will likely narrow down its options to two of Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw and Elijah Tsatas. Sheezel is the forward-half specialist in this group, able to create a plethora of chances and make the most of his opportunities with mercurial talent in front of goal. He has elements of Josh Rachele and Zac Bailey with his timing and execution in the forward 50, threatening to kick goal of the year on any given day.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw, Elijah Tsatas

North’s decision at this point is difficult to split, but the best available on most boards will be Wardlaw. He’s a prototypical inside midfielder with his competitiveness, but has a penetrating kick and aerial ability around the ground to go with it. Wardlaw’s hard-nosed talent blends well with a young midfield brigade of Simpkin, Davies-Uniacke and Phillips for the next decade.

Around the mark: Harry Sheezel, Elijah Tsatas

The Dons are in an enviable position, able to pluck whoever remains of the top five. Tsatas adds elements to their lineup that they sorely lack – he’s an outside accumulator that swoops on loose balls with cleanliness, he links play together with his running capacity and acceleration, and he takes the game on with unflappable confidence. Tsatas offers meaningful drive to a midfield unit that struggled to move the ball with pace in 2022.

Around the mark: George Wardlaw

The Suns have Pick 5 after Izak Rankine’s departure to Adelaide, and may have an opportunity to replace his attacking threat with a different element. The Gippsland captain is dynamic in the forward 50 with a huge appetite for the contest in the middle as well. Humphrey is a fantastic clubman, but the Suns will be doing their due diligence on his interest in heading north.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Hawks have gutted their midfield and are ready to fill it to the brim with young talent. That process began last year with Josh Ward and Connor MacDonald, and Jhye Clark presents as the ideal prospect at this point of the draft. He’s gritty and tough, has excellent leadership attributes and is team-oriented. The Hawks pinching him a pick before the rival Cats might be the cherry on top.

Around the mark: Bailey Humphrey, Cam Mackenzie

The Cats will be holding out hope Selwood-clone Clark falls to them here. If not, the next best on a lot of boards will be Mackenzie, a hard-running two-way midfielder with crafty skills and contested proficiency. He offers a lot of the same qualities Geelong saw in Mitch Knevitt last year. As a hypothetical, the Cats could offer up this pick and their future first for the Hawks’ Pick 6 and future second if they don’t think Clark will make it through.

Around the mark: Jhye Clark

The Eagles traded back from Pick 2 for 8 and 12, seemingly with local prospects in their sights. Ginbey is the ultimate competitor in an Elliot Yeo mould, adding elite pressure in the contest. The Dunsborough product has spent time as a rebounding defender where his pace and tenacity are on display, but his most eye-catching work has come as a brute force in the midfield.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Cam Mackenzie

The Saints are desperately in need of some excitement on-field after consecutive flat seasons. Phillipou offers just that as a ready-made goal-kicker that has spent time in the midfield, using his size to advantage around the ground. He has huge scope for rapid improvement and adds a completely different element to the forward half for St Kilda.

Around the mark: Cam Mackenzie

If Busslinger slides out of the top 10, the Blues should be quick to snap the interceptor up. The Royal closes distance on his direct opponent, flies for his marks and moves the ball with pace out of the backline. The Blues have looked to the State Leagues to lend Weitering added assistance, but it may be time to fully invest in their key defensive stocks through the draft.

Around the mark: Mattaes Phillipou

More AFL News:
AFL Draft 2022: Top 30 Power Rankings – October

AFL: Your club’s way-too-early best 23 for 2023

AFL Trade Period 2022: Who’s come and gone from your club?

The Dogs have a plethora of see-ball, get-ball midfielders that are brilliant at what they do. But they’ve struggled finding the right wing combinations to maintain their structure, and Lachie Hunter heading to Melbourne doesn’t help that issue. Hollands is a selfless midfielder that just took out the 2km time trial in an elite 5:54 minutes. He holds his width on the ground and uses the ball on both sides of his body well – despite his lighter frame he could play AFL early in the right role.

Around the mark: Jedd Busslinger, Elijah Hewett

The Eagles haven’t solely looked within WA in past drafts, but there’s good reason to here. If Hewett is available at 13, he and Ginbey would immediately energise their engine room. he uses his speed-endurance blend as a weapon, powering out of stoppages and generating meaningful drive. He mixed it with the big bodies in the WAFL and added some goal nous to his game over the year.

Around the mark: Matthew Jefferson, Reuben Ginbey

Vic Metro’s best tall forward was Jefferson this year. He’s springy and quick off the mark akin to Ollie Henry, but has genuine key position height. The Dees have lost Sam Weideman and struggled without Tom McDonald in 2022 – Jefferson could be the future focal point for their forward line.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett

Weddle has a lot of fans in the first round – he’s slightly undersized as a key defender but uses all of his attributes to thrive. He has a fantastic leap, uses his body to advantage, and takes the game on with his intercepting and decision-making. He has similar elements to what made Dane Rampe such a fantastic undersized defender.

Around the mark: Lachlan Cowan, Henry Hustwaite

The younger brother of Collingwood’s VFL captain, Hustwaite is a fluid mover that can play in the middle or down back with his height. His left foot is a weapon and he moves through traffic smoothly to distribute to outside runners. A Country teammate of Cadman, the Giants could use Hustwaite’s ball use and intercepting out of their backline, with further scope to move into the midfield.

Around the mark: Josh Weddle, Lewis Hayes

Hayes is a no-nonsense key defender that gives his absolute all and rarely gets beaten. The Pies have done tremendously with the combination of Moore and Howe, but they’ve dearly missed Jordan Roughead’s presence. Billy Frampton could be a stop-gap for now, but Hayes presents as a long-term solution.

Around the mark: Harry Barnett, Isaac Keeler

Cowan is a high-octane defender that takes the game on and lifts his team with courageous play. For the Swans, he would add metres gained out of the backline and a genuine shutdown defensive option to free the likes of Blakey, Lloyd and Florent.

Around the mark: Olli Hotton, Henry Hustwaite

Konstanty has delivered a fantastic small forward year, racking up tackles and goals for Gippsland. He latches onto opposition players and pressures everything out of the backline for his side. The Giants will welcome Toby Bedford and have Brent Daniels coming back in this year, but they’ve sorely lacked pressure in their forward 50. Drafting a trio of Vic Country teammates in Cadman, Hustwaite and Konstanty might help the club hold onto the talented youngsters.

Around the mark: Isaac Keeler, Lachlan Cowan

Pretty good phantom I reckon. I was thinking Weddle to Sydney seems an obvious match.

_Cerberus_ · Oct 16, 2022

Holland at 11 makes sense. But then we have a group of players we want at 21, all going in the Picks 15-19 range xD
Starting to feel like we may just miss out on a defender unless we reach at 11. Given defenders are a premium these days given the lack of quality about.
Would not surprise me to see Buss go before pick 11. And Hayes and Weddle gone before pick 21.

weltschmerz · Oct 16, 2022

_Cerberus_ said:
Holland at 11 makes sense. But then we have a group of players we want at 21, all going in the Picks 15-19 range xD
Strarting to feel like we may just miss out on a defender unless we reach at 11.

If we got to our pick and Busslinger and Phillipou were both gone I'd consider offering Sydney or GWS the pick for two later firsts.

weltschmerz · Oct 16, 2022

also Bid On Jaspa Fletcher Or So Help Me

flipper83 · Oct 16, 2022

weltschmerz said:
That's a lot of guys we like gone in the first round. Charlie Clarke and Ethan Phillips with our other picks.

Yeah that would be about the worst case scenario for us I think.
Hotton is still on the board so he'd be a good option at 21 if still there but it would suck to miss out on Weddle and Hayes.
Hopefully Van Es would still be around for our later picks.

Toddy86 · Oct 16, 2022

Hey guys, (off topic sorry don’t know where to ask this)

My grandfather (Lyall Anderson) played for Footscray in the late 1950 and we don’t have much memorabilia of his and can’t find any footage, do you guys know who we could contact?
I’ve contacted the bulldogs without much help.

Thanks in advance.

Angak · Oct 17, 2022

_Cerberus_ said:
Holland at 11 makes sense. But then we have a group of players we want at 21, all going in the Picks 15-19 range xD
Starting to feel like we may just miss out on a defender unless we reach at 11. Given defenders are a premium these days given the lack of quality about.
Would not surprise me to see Buss go before pick 11. And Hayes and Weddle gone before pick 21.

I really don't think we should draft on need at pick 11.

Draft the best player. If that happens to be a player that fills a hole on the list, great !

Nat Fyfe · Oct 17, 2022

doggies ftw said:
Man I want this bloke at 21

If it weren't for his combine testing, I would've thought he was slow if anything. Not once in these highlights do you see him actually use that pace. Could just be me, but the only thing that impressed me there was his handballing. Weird kicking style and he's seemingly reluctant to run and carry. I'm not seeing the hype in this guy.

Watch Darcy Jones highlights. Kid has serious pace, great kick and broke the agility record at the combine. Despite his lack of height, I'd love to pick him up

Testekill · Oct 17, 2022

Nat Fyfe said:
If it weren't for his combine testing, I would've thought he was slow if anything. Not once in these highlights do you see him actually use that pace. Could just be me, but the only thing that impressed me there was his handballing. Weird kicking style and he's seemingly reluctant to run and carry. I'm not seeing the hype in this guy.

Watch Darcy Jones highlights. Kid has serious pace, great kick and broke the agility record at the combine. Despite his lack of height, I'd love to pick him up

Yeah I don't really see it with Allan in his highlights, just an okay kick and should be torching opponents by running off of them. Maybe he's just not been trained to use that pace.

edit: Jones has a lot of really impressive attributes, it's just a shame that there's probably 4 or 5 players in that 15-30 range that we'd want. I'd like us to try and maybe trade a future second next year to maybe get an end of first round or start of second round pick.

doggies ftw · Oct 17, 2022

Nat Fyfe said:
If it weren't for his combine testing, I would've thought he was slow if anything. Not once in these highlights do you see him actually use that pace. Could just be me, but the only thing that impressed me there was his handballing. Weird kicking style and he's seemingly reluctant to run and carry. I'm not seeing the hype in this guy.

Watch Darcy Jones highlights. Kid has serious pace, great kick and broke the agility record at the combine. Despite his lack of height, I'd love to pick him up

Agree he doesn’t use his pace enough and that’s one of the knocks on him from the big draft watchers like PMBangers - but I think that’s why you can get him relatively cheaply at pick 21, if he already used it he’d probably be gone by that stage.

So I think as a club knowing he has it, and 3x 20m sprints in the low 2.80s is extreme burst speed - you’d back yourself in to unlock that potential on the field and then you’d have a pretty ridiculous prospect on the wing. I like his kicking tbh, complete confidence in both sides of the body is a great thing in an 18yo - plus the Bont like stand up in the tackle and get the hands out - is a bonus.

I wouldn’t jump at 11 but if he was there at 21 I’d be thinking prettttty strongly about it

LittleG · Oct 17, 2022

IF we take a KPD first, then I would be interested in Allan at pick 21. As long as Fletcher is off the board and none of the other top line prospects have dropped, then it would make sense to take Allan. He Has serious athletic traits that could be unlocked and then you have an excellent winger.

Other options to look at around pick 21 are small forward.

I am not sure I want a KPD at 11 but I wouldn’t be critical IF we did. It’s not like a great one will still be on the board at pick 21.

Pick 39 our third pick, you are really looking at a ruck or Mankura. There will be options but none are going to be ready for AFL impact for 2-3 years. Rather pick a specialist position player who usually take time at this pick. They are only 20% chance of being any good, so you have to target a position with the greatest upside, which I think is Ruck/KPD/small forward/small defender. These roles all require physical development, smalls need game time in their positions to learn it, as they are mostly played in the midfield IF they have skills.

weltschmerz · Oct 17, 2022

I’m not very interested in Allan, especially at pick 21. Would prefer Coby Burgiel, Jaxon Binns, or later on Jason Gillbee.

Nat Fyfe · Oct 17, 2022

LittleG said:
IF we take a KPD first, then I would be interested in Allan at pick 21. As long as Fletcher is off the board and none of the other top line prospects have dropped, then it would make sense to take Allan. He Has serious athletic traits that could be unlocked and then you have an excellent winger.

Other options to look at around pick 21 are small forward.

I am not sure I want a KPD at 11 but I wouldn’t be critical IF we did. It’s not like a great one will still be on the board at pick 21.

Pick 39 our third pick, you are really looking at a ruck or Mankura. There will be options but none are going to be ready for AFL impact for 2-3 years. Rather pick a specialist position player who usually take time at this pick. They are only 20% chance of being any good, so you have to target a position with the greatest upside, which I think is Ruck/KPD/small forward/small defender. These roles all require physical development, smalls need game time in their positions to learn it, as they are mostly played in the midfield IF they have skills.

My other lingering concern with Allan is that it means we've got two highly speculative tall wings on our list (him and Bedendo) whose gap between floor and ceiling appears enormous.

weltschmerz · Oct 17, 2022

doggies ftw said:
Agree he doesn’t use his pace enough and that’s one of the knocks on him from the big draft watchers like PMBangers - but I think that’s why you can get him relatively cheaply at pick 21, if he already used it he’d probably be gone by that stage.

So I think as a club knowing he has it, and 3x 20m sprints in the low 2.80s is extreme burst speed - you’d back yourself in to unlock that potential on the field and then you’d have a pretty ridiculous prospect on the wing. I like his kicking tbh, complete confidence in both sides of the body is a great thing in an 18yo - plus the Bont like stand up in the tackle and get the hands out - is a bonus.

I wouldn’t jump at 11 but if he was there at 21 I’d be thinking prettttty strongly about it

21 doesn’t seem at all cheap for a player whose only notable trait is burst speed.

doggies ftw · Oct 17, 2022

weltschmerz said:
21 doesn’t seem at all cheap for a player whose only notable trait is burst speed.

I meant in that if he reaches his potential then it would be cheap, it’s up to the club on whether they think they could unlock that potential I guess.

But yeah I think 21 is about right for his upside but can see the concerns, depends on who’s still on the board. If we don’t get Buss at 11 I’d still prefer a KPD

weltschmerz · Oct 17, 2022

doggies ftw said:
I meant in that if he reaches his potential then it would be cheap, it’s up to the club on whether they think they could unlock that potential I guess.

But yeah I think 21 is about right for his upside but can see the concerns, depends on who’s still on the board. If we don’t get Buss at 11 I’d still prefer a KPD

For an early second rounder I just really reckon we need exposed form more than potential.

doggies ftw · Oct 17, 2022

weltschmerz said:
For an early second rounder I just really reckon we need exposed form more than potential.

Edward Allan | WAFL

wafl.com.au

His numbers in the WAFL colts are pretty impressive but I’m not sure on the standard, I’d be keen on going back and watching his champs game which I’ll do at some stage.

_Cerberus_ · Oct 17, 2022

Angak said:
I really don't think we should draft on need at pick 11.

Draft the best player. If that happens to be a player that fills a hole on the list, great !

Of course, I have always spoken against reaching for Weddle for Pick 11. I was just stating the needs based players will probably end up going by Pick 21 based on posted/recent Phantom drafts posted above my original comment. So we may not be able to cover all of our needs during this draft alone. I'm with you, always say best available for the first dozen picks, whether it fills a need or not.

3rdgenbulldog · Oct 17, 2022

hatescaptcha said:
Definitely has that Papley sort of energy to him also. Can see the appeal from us.

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went to school with him dropped out in year 10 and will definitely fly the flag for us, was good mates with him through year ten as well. has bulldog spirit.

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