List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[The Nostradamus]

Pick 2 - Sheezel
Pick 3 - Wardlaw
[Picks 40, 43, 59 - trade to * for pick 22 to facilitate Davey f/s bid]
Pick 22 - Cowan / Keeler / Gruzewski
Pick 70 - Cooper Harvey f/s son bid (+ 2023 deficit)

Leaves three spots for Walker / Jed / DFAs / SSP.

nailed it. Although Tsatas over wardlaw for mine

J walker stays but on rookie list, plus bring in a DFA as a rookie (stocker) and use rookie pick 1 on the best player not drafted

 

[chickenonachain]

IMO we should have got more for the rat 2 first round picks not enough, $800,000 six year deal they would have and should have given more. Again should have got two first round picks for our first pick. I’m giving us a C.

 

[Hass29]

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[My Left Foote]

The best thing about Kingy is that he's 100% emotionally invested in the club. The worst thing about Kingy is he's 100% emotionally invested in the club.

He's not looking at this objectively far too emotional to be rational. At best our trade period was an A at worst a B-.

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Much more objective take from Sarah Black on the AFL website.

 

[Ashley B]

It will take him some time to live this down you would think James Cagney agreed and that was back in the last century

 

[Psicosis]

IMO we should have got more for the rat 2 first round picks not enough, $800,000 six year deal they would have and should have given more. Again should have got two first round picks for our first pick. I’m giving us a C.

Whilst I don't disagree with your rating of a C, I think next year's trade & list management thread needs the following pinned:

"Player contract value does not equal trade value"

If it did, we would have paid pick 3 for Logue.

 

[chickenonachain]

Whilst I don't disagree with your rating of a C, I think next year's trade & list management thread needs the following pinned:

"Player contract value does not equal trade value"

If it did, we would have paid pick 3 for Logue.

The difference with Logue is he was not contracted the rat was.

 

[Harris 10]

Cornes quote:
“Ice baths don’t even work for that matter, maybe Jason Horne-Francis has looked at the science and said, ‘I don’t reckon these ice baths work’.

Could JHF even spell science?

 

[Ashley B]

Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

42

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

lol listened to him once , once too many , what a fk head, to put it mildly.

 

[Roo202]

Whilst I don't disagree with your rating of a C, I think next year's trade & list management thread needs the following pinned:

"Player contract value does not equal trade value"

If it did, we would have paid pick 3 for Logue.

It's all only marginally more quantifiable than trying to give a grade to each team after the draft.

The immediate draft gradings are just idiotic clickbait, there is more exposed form with players changing teams during the trade period, which gives some legitimate room for analysis of how team's have fared. But given how much of our trade period ins are draft picks, it is not going to be known for a few years how we actually did.

 

[benbanjo]

We don't have 900 list spots available.

Nah only interested in the heavy set chicks he was smashing, we need size up forward.

 

[Psicosis]

The difference with Logue is he was not contracted the rat was.

Correct, contracted vs uncontracted is very relevant in terms of trade value.

Contract value that North gave Logue & Port gave JHF, are irrelevant in terms of trade value.

 

[Hojuman]

Cornes quote:
“Ice baths don’t even work for that matter, maybe Jason Horne-Francis has looked at the science and said, ‘I don’t reckon these ice baths work’.

Could JHF even spell science?

 

[benbanjo]

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maybe he shoved one up his nose ala Homer, that would explain a lot.

 

[TheBigHorne]

Trade value is determined by the seller's view of the player and not the buyer most of the time which I think may be contrary to popular belief.

 

[giantroo]

 

[zoomba23]

And it starts.

Honestly didn't think this would kick off so ****ing fast. I hate playing the victim but if you imagine the Dawks putting in a PP application next year, it's so ****ing easy to imagine the league giving it the stamp of approval without hesitation. If it's us or the Saints or some other shithouse team with a smaller fanbase (excluding the expansion clubs), no deal. Hooray for equity

 

[Makeshift Park]

Its about as likely as any of our PSD dreams, but Tipungwuti via SSP would be excellent in more ways than one.

 

[Passmore]

Cornes quote:
“Ice baths don’t even work for that matter, maybe Jason Horne-Francis has looked at the science and said, ‘I don’t reckon these ice baths work’.

Could JHF even spell science?

**** off!!! He really said that????!!!!

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[My Left Foote]

We continue to front up to the members, will be good to hear from Todd, first time I've seen him in a North Melbourne polo looks good of course.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Kane Cornes lol listened to him once , once too many , what a fk head, to put it mildly.

Right after Corn finished his fellow Port sycophant Dwayne Russell took over and you can guess the rest. Flogs!

 

[Grogg]

Much more objective take from Sarah Black on the AFL website.View attachment 1535233

Max Barry with an interesting analysis from the trade period is worth a look:

 

[buttox]

Pardon my ignorance, but what's the SPP? Sam Powell Pepper period?

Supplementary selection period.
Runs right up to the start of the season.
Players can train with us all summer and we can pick the best player for a list spot.
If we get a LTI during the off season we can just add one of the blokes training with us to the list before the season starts.
Easily the best way to get a young player to join us but there wont be much of a list of players to choose from as most have been drafted/rookied previous to it.
Nick Martyn joined the bombers through the SSP last season.

 

[speedy]

* off!!! He really said that????!!!!

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Yep, and he's carrying on like that's the only incident that happened.

Him and the other PA lackey Derrrwayne have been sticking up for Judas all day on SEN. Derrwayne being all high and mighty saying clubs should stop blaming others for their lot. Pretty obvious he was directing most of that at North.

 

[Passmore]

Yep, and he's carrying on like that's the only incident that happened.

Him and the other PA lackey Derrrwayne have been sticking up for Judas all day on SEN. Derrwayne being all high and mighty saying clubs should stop blaming others for their lot. Pretty obvious he was directing most of that at North.

On one hand the kid has been described as unable to complete basic paperwork. On the other, he’s researched the science of ice baths in recovery.

He’s certainly an enigma.