List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[The b shart]

I recon the roos rate Matt Jefferson and will be aiming to get a sniff at a early teens selection

 

[giantroo]

 

[New_Roo]

yeah this is dumb cos cooper might not attract a bid til pick 50

we need to do some sort of trading with the picks in the 40s, trade into future draft

Think it's a little early to call dumb as we aren't exposed to the full picture


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[Disco Dew]

****ing trade and draft experts up in here!

This is probably the root of your frustration. This idea that someone is just going to give us an early second for 40 & 43 because they need the points & good will. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Dodoro would have wanted our future second as well + 40, 43 for pick 22.

This about sums it up. In magical fairy wonderland using 40 and 43 to get into the teens sounds awesome but ain’t no one doing that.

Well except maybe Gold Coast, but only with Geelong

 

[The Nostradamus]

******* trade and draft experts up in here!



This about sums it up. In magical fairy wonderland using 40 and 43 to get into the teens sounds awesome but ain’t no one doing that.

Well except maybe Gold Coast, but only with Geelong

not a pick in the teens but a pick in the 20s which is also what we just traded for lol

 

[Disco Dew]

not a pick in the teens but a pick in the 20s which is also what we just traded for lol

Maybe they tried and failed, ****ed if I know mate.
I guess I’m just just saying wait and see. We could draft the next Mahoney with that 23, how good would that be???

 

[Shinboner1]

our draft hand next year on current position is now 1,8,38 and 75

plus the 2 firsts we'll get from offloading mahony.

 

[Psicosis]

not a pick in the teens but a pick in the 20s which is also what we just traded for lol

Nobody is trading a pick in the 20's for 40 + 43, TZ.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

We traded to get those picks in the 40's for a reason, they're gonna come in so they have real value. On the night they may have even more value so no doubt at the very least they'll see us back in the 2023 draft.

Also can't rule out the prospect of delisting from our senior list to move to the rookie list.

 

[Disco Dew]

We traded to get those picks in the 40's for a reason, they're gonna come in so they have real value. On the night they may have even more value so no doubt at the very least they'll see us back in the 2023 draft.

Also can't rule out the prospect of delisting from our senior list to move to the rookie list.

people like to lose their mind if we don’t “win” a trade.

 

[New_Roo]

then its fine but why not wait til making this pick swap til draft night

but currently not many expecting a top 40 bid

Maybe there is more to do and making it draft night is too late to get the next part done....


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[King Corey]

Also can't rule out the prospect of delisting from our senior list to move to the rookie list.

the Ziebull has joined the chat

 

[hellas_johnny]

Interesting on it surface it's given us a strong hand this year however we don't need both 40 and 43. Would like us to somehow trade 43 out to get a future 3rd from someone

 

[buttox]

Interesting on it surface it's given us a strong hand this year however we don't need both 40 and 43. Would like us to somehow trade 43 out to get a future 3rd from someone

If we don't move someone to the rookie list we will only have 4 open list spots and 43 won't be available to us. IE we need to trade it before the draft.

 

[hellas_johnny]

If we don't move someone to the rookie list we will only have 4 open list spots and 43 won't be available to us. IE we need to trade it before the draft.

Oh that's very true also. The club clearly has something in the work here

 

[Shinboner1]

Interesting on it surface it's given us a strong hand this year however we don't need both 40 and 43. Would like us to somehow trade 43 out to get a future 3rd from someone

teams have given up future 2nds for picks in the 30s before.
We might be aiming to get lucky on draft night?

 

[trooroo4life]

Love that we’ve gotten another pick inside 25, hopefully Cowan is still there if not I really like Charlie Clarke.

Trading the future 2nd doesn’t worry me with 2 future 1sts in the pocket. We can move out of this draft with our 40’s picks into ‘23 or this time next year we can move ‘24 picks into ‘23. No need to shit the bed about it yet plenty of avenues to attack the ‘23 pool.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Maybe not for 40+43 alone, but it wouldn't require much of a sweetener I would have thought?

I mean, maybe my Friday brain is letting me down here, but look at * for example.

After their 1st rounder (pick 4), they've got the following:

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They're after a f/s prospect in Davey Jnr, who Callum Twomey reckons will go at 14.

So they only just get there.

But it means that they go into deficit if he bolts more than 1 spot.

And what about their mandatory third draft selection?

Surely its better to have a spare 3rd rounder up their sleeve than not, which they would have if hypothetically they'd taken our 40, 43 and 59 for 22.

can you pls link me the draft points calc

 

[Makeshift Park]

can you pls link me the draft points calc

It's here: AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

But I've just deleted my post because as forewarned my Friday brain is useless and I forgot about the 20% f/s discount with the point I was making.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Also can't rule out the prospect of delisting from our senior list to move to the rookie list.

I’d drop Spicer or Lazz to the rookie list so we can use one of those picks in the 30’s. Take either Lemmy or Scully.

 

[Psicosis]

Maybe not for 40+43 alone, but it wouldn't require much of a sweetener I would have thought?

I mean, maybe my Friday brain is letting me down here, but look at * for example.

After their 1st rounder (pick 4), they've got the following:

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They're after a f/s prospect in Davey Jnr, who Callum Twomey reckons will go at 14.

So they only just get there.

But it means that they go into deficit if he bolts more than 1 spot.

And what about their mandatory third draft selection?

Surely its better to have a spare 3rd rounder up their sleeve than not, which they would have if hypothetically they'd taken our 40, 43 and 59 for 22.

If I'm Essendon I'm wanting a future second + Dodoro factor, they probably wanted Ports future.

There will be enough clubs that want players at Pick 22 that will part with more then just picks for points & a sweetener.

I'm sure we asked the question & there's a reason why this is the deal we've made.

 

[buttox]

It's here: AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

But I've just deleted my post because as forewarned my Friday brain is useless and I forgot about the 20% f/s discount with the point I was making.

Our picks will move up also after the Ashcroft bid. 40 and 43 will be worth more points than 22ish. We really want an early Davey bid.

 

[My Left Foote]

our draft hand next year on current position is now 1,8,38 and 75

A few weeks ago we started off the trade period with 1, 55, 66… we now have 2, 3, 23, 40, 43… we have substantially increased our draft hand this year (and next year too).

There's nothing to say we can't do the same again next year a player might want to be traded, we might turn 8 into 2 later first rounders
anything can happen. Enjoy the fact that we're going to get a very good kid with pick 23.

 

[The Nostradamus]

A few weeks ago we started off the trade period with 1, 55, 66… we now have 2, 3, 23, 40, 43… we have substantially increased our draft hand this year.

There's nothing to say we can't do the same again next year a player might want to be traded, we might turn 8 into 2 later first rounders
anything can happen. Enjoy the fact that we're going to get a very good kid with pick 23.

100% my issue is in isolation this pick swap is not a good result.

now when the full picture comes around we can judge it properly but for now we can only judge just what is in front of us not predicting what could be

 

[Lomas]

our draft hand next year on current position is now 1,8,38 and 75

That's a good start, better than where we began this year.