List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part I

[Sully111]

hasnt been at training all week... now on personal leave...

gee where have i seen this movie before?

Maybe he's somewhat affected by the fact that he's all over the news in one of the biggest beat ups in recent afl media history.

 

[StCicatriz]

If you are intimating he has a drug problem, might be best to present any type of evidence.
No one has suggested that in the slightest.

i'd say he has a problem meeting the requirements to being a professional footballer, people can cut that any which way they want.

if people think this is about him going outside the country and to bali, they'd be wrong. two other pies players went to bali, separate to DeGoey. his manager also stated they had no issue with DeGoey going to bali given he would be following the clubs fitness program.

if people think this is really about him getting loose with some lady in a club they're extremely gullible. the video from two other pies players was probably just as bad as respect to women goes.

clubs don't put contract talks on hold over something consensual as that.

clubs will put contract talks on hold if the players behaviour will stop them from meeting the requirements of being a footballer. in the same week he CANNOT attend training. not many reasons why he can't attend training, its a very very very short list.

 

[jwikked]

Wouldn't surprise me if he walks away from footy for good. No matter what he does for the rest of his career, one perceived slip up will be all it takes to be front page of the papers, top of the Twitter list and the #1 story on all other forms of football media. Who would want to live with that kind of scrutiny?

 

[Joffaboy]

i'd say he has a problem meeting the requirements to being a professional footballer, people can cut that any which way they want.

if people think this is about him going outside the country and to bali, they'd be wrong. two other pies players went to bali, separate to DeGoey. his manager also stated they had no issue with DeGoey going to bali given he would be following the clubs fitness program.

if people think this is really about him getting loose with some lady in a club they're extremely gullible. the video from two other pies players was probably just as bad as respect to women goes.

clubs don't put contract talks on hold over something consensual as that.

clubs will put contract talks on hold if the players behaviour will stop them from meeting the requirements of being a footballer. in the same week he CANNOT attend training. not many reasons why he can't attend training, its a very very very short list.

Drawing along bow from all of this.

Was training every day in Bali, has been the biggest story in football for a week and would be stressed.
Collingwood have put talks on hold because they can now give him a haircut AND have him on parole. He plays up they don't have to pay up.
Unless there is substantive evidence to the contrary, anything else is speculation.

 

[lewdogs]

Wouldn't surprise me if he walks away from footy for good. No matter what he does for the rest of his career, one perceived slip up will be all it takes to be front page of the papers, top of the Twitter list and the #1 story on all other forms of football media. Who would want to live with that kind of scrutiny?

He's a highly paid footballer. Dusty somehow manages to stay out of the limelight, despite earlier being seen as a bad boy. Jordan clearly needs to wake up.

 

[Sully111]

The afl media are relentless, soulless vultures. They won't stop until some young player necks themselves. Even that would probably only slow them down for a bit.

 

[Premium]

Drawing along bow from all of this.

Was training every day in Bali, has been the biggest story in football for a week and would be stressed.
Collingwood have put talks on hold because they can now give him a haircut AND have him on parole. He plays up they don't have to pay up.
Unless there is substantive evidence to the contrary, anything else is speculation.

Whatever happens the Pies cooled on him and DeGoey most probably wants away from there now.
So whatever club comes up with the best deal will pick him up.
We have every chance to pick him up now but will they do it.

 

[Joffaboy]

The afl media are relentless, soulless vultures. They won't stop until some young player necks themselves. Even that would probably only slow them down for a bit.

They would take no responsibility. Lip service to inclusiveness, and fight racism, etc etc, pat themselves on the back about Spuds round, but relentlessly attack someone already going through hell.

They care about ratings and clicks, a dead young footballer is collateral damage, they would make a story out of that and then say 'move on.
Whately is the worst. Bully in chief.

 

[bird_man]

i'd say he has a problem meeting the requirements to being a professional footballer, people can cut that any which way they want.

if people think this is about him going outside the country and to bali, they'd be wrong. two other pies players went to bali, separate to DeGoey. his manager also stated they had no issue with DeGoey going to bali given he would be following the clubs fitness program.

if people think this is really about him getting loose with some lady in a club they're extremely gullible. the video from two other pies players was probably just as bad as respect to women goes.

clubs don't put contract talks on hold over something consensual as that.

clubs will put contract talks on hold if the players behaviour will stop them from meeting the requirements of being a footballer. in the same week he CANNOT attend training. not many reasons why he can't attend training, its a very very very short list.

What exactly are you suggesting?

 

[jwikked]

He's a highly paid footballer. Dusty somehow manages to stay out of the limelight, despite earlier being seen as a bad boy. Jordan clearly needs to wake up.

Money might make some problems go away but it doesn’t make you happy

 

[Sun Ra]

Eddie McGuire just confirmed this on ch 9.

Sucks to be you people, bunch of campaigners [emoji3060][emoji3060][emoji41][emoji41]

Sorry to tell you this buddy, but you are now replying to yourself.
Maybe take some time out with Jordan ?

 

[Dr Spaceman]

hasnt been at training all week... now on personal leave...

gee where have i seen this movie before?

Spotted training privately late this afternoon

 

[gringo2011]

Maybe those groping girls got a soft no from gringo?

I don’t want to sound sexist but if I was a 25 year old single male in Bali…. Jeepers, the girls here last time I was here were Shazzas in Bintang singlets with bad sunburn. Everyone female in Bali seems to be a stunning Instagram model or a fitness and wellness MILF. There are more hormones than a Kontiki tour after a pub crawl as well. I would have been liberating nipples like Jordy too.

 

[StCicatriz]

Drawing along bow from all of this.

Was training every day in Bali, has been the biggest story in football for a week and would be stressed.
Collingwood have put talks on hold because they can now give him a haircut AND have him on parole. He plays up they don't have to pay up.
Unless there is substantive evidence to the contrary, anything else is speculation.

i dont see how it gives him a haircut or puts him on parole though...

his market value is what it is, collingwood putting contract talks on hold doesn't alter that one little bit. clubs X and Y will still offer him what theyre prepared to pay regardless of what collingwood do. all they'd risk in doing this is pissing of DeGoey and pushing him out the door, which tells you its not about trimming his contract but instead holding the line on what is acceptable standards for an AFL listed player.

putting him on parole too i dont get, the pies told him that prior to and after the NYC incident. similar to the incidents before it. it did nothing. they would have had conversations with him around the bali trip, given his manager said they held no concerns.

so what happened that made them walk away?

if its just reputational damage then surely its higher than what ever $$$ they save from a so called trim if they did get one.

the truth doesnt get out until well after these things are settled. watch him go to another club and watch the leaks start hitting the minute the deal is done.

 

[gringo2011]

i dont see how it gives him a haircut or puts him on parole though...

his market value is what it is, collingwood putting contract talks on hold doesn't alter that one little bit. clubs X and Y will still offer him what theyre prepared to pay regardless of what collingwood do. all they'd risk in doing this is pissing of DeGoey and pushing him out the door, which tells you its not about trimming his contract but instead holding the line on what is acceptable standards for an AFL listed player.

putting him on parole too i dont get, the pies told him that prior to and after the NYC incident. similar to the incidents before it. it did nothing. they would have had conversations with him around the bali trip, given his manager said they held no concerns.

so what happened that made them walk away?

if its just reputational damage then surely its higher than what ever $$$ they save from a so called trim if they did get one.

the truth doesnt get out until well after these things are settled. watch him go to another club and watch the leaks start hitting the minute the deal is done.

I reckon they just see it as a way to sign him on $300k PA less.

 

[Joffaboy]

i dont see how it gives him a haircut or puts him on parole though...

his market value is what it is, collingwood putting contract talks on hold doesn't alter that one little bit. clubs X and Y will still offer him what theyre prepared to pay regardless of what collingwood do. all they'd risk in doing this is pissing of DeGoey and pushing him out the door, which tells you its not about trimming his contract but instead holding the line on what is acceptable standards for an AFL listed player.

putting him on parole too i dont get, the pies told him that prior to and after the NYC incident. similar to the incidents before it. it did nothing. they would have had conversations with him around the bali trip, given his manager said they held no concerns.

so what happened that made them walk away?

if its just reputational damage then surely its higher than what ever $$$ they save from a so called trim if they did get one.

the truth doesnt get out until well after these things are settled. watch him go to another club and watch the leaks start hitting the minute the deal is done.

Just reiterating what Eddie McGuire said on ch 9. I would assume he would know one or two at Collingwood.

 

[Premium]

I reckon they just see it as a way to sign him on $300k PA less.

It is deceiving on how a team values a player , a guy like Zac Williams gets a 5yr contract said to be 900k a year and has only been a good to fair halfback flanker and then we pickup a proven A grade midfielder in Crouch for 600k a year.
So the DeGoey deal could actually get done for a lot less than people think and to me it will comedown to not money but how comfortable he is at the club and at the moment I really feel we have it over most.

 

[Joffaboy]

I reckon they just see it as a way to sign him on $300k PA less.

Exactly this. He has certainly put a dent into the high premium he was asking.

 

[Premium]

Exactly this. He has certainly put a dent into the high premium he was asking.

Clubs will be offering 700k or more knowing some of the spuds that are on that money.

 

[StCicatriz]

Clubs will be offering 700k or more knowing some of the spuds that are on that money.

100%

north melbourne seem to love guys at the pies with a pretty shit work ethic

essendon or the dogs might go nibling

the you have the interstate clubs who might think getting out of melb might be 3/4 of the battle

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Hahaha imagine being upset a young bloke takes a holiday on his week off and enjoys himself.
I can guarantee you or your sons and daughters do basically the same thing. Only difference is they aren’t famous.

 

[StCicatriz]

I reckon they just see it as a way to sign him on $300k PA less.

i'm getting big stephenson vibes in their treatment of him. i reckon they might just be done with him

 

[Sully111]

Hahaha imagine being upset a young bloke takes a holiday on his week off and enjoys himself.
I can guarantee you or your sons and daughters do basically the same thing. Only difference is they aren’t famous.

It's unbelievable mate. People are nuts.

 

[Premium]

100%

north melbourne seem to love guys at the pies with a pretty s**t work ethic

essendon or the dogs might go nibling

the you have the interstate clubs who might think getting out of melb might be 3/4 of the battle

The good point about picking up DeGoey is he not going to cost us anything trade wise , leaving our draft picks same as Amon and Brayshaw.
I still feel Taranto is the player to pick up , only 24 and has already had a few seasons of averaging 26 touches a game.
But he will cost 2 first round picks and will they do that.

 

[ScrappyDo]

i'm getting big stephenson vibes in their treatment of him. i reckon they might just be done with him

I think there could be a lot of truth in this. The departure of Eddie will have removed most of the spine from the executive. JDG probably told he was on his last chance and although it's a nothing incident they can use it to pull the rug out. Or the whole thing's being managed.