Training 2022 Training Reports

[theGav56]

Erasmus should be playing round 1 IMO, I get the reasoning behind building him in Peel but to me he is another Brayshaw, get him amongst the best and learning from the best straight away.

We needed to fast track Brayshaw, but I don't think we need to do that with Erasmus. He'll play soon enough.

 

[CapitalA]

Erasmus should be playing round 1 IMO, I get the reasoning behind building him in Peel but to me he is another Brayshaw, get him amongst the best and learning from the best straight away.

He will debut early, like Serong and Chapman.

 

[Taylor]

He needs to earn it. He needs to be the best choice for the role.

 

[Dockeroo]

The report from mcardle suggested Worner got on plenty of ball in the peel game but his disposal by foot was a bit shaky. I guess if he didn’t have any flaws he wouldn’t have slid into the rookie draft. Will be interesting to see how he compares to Stefan Giro

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Stefan Giro

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

6.5

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.5

5star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

, another rookie drafted winger

 

[Bender571]

The report from mcardle suggested Worner got on plenty of ball in the peel game but his disposal by foot was a bit shaky. I guess if he didn’t have any flaws he wouldn’t have slid into the rookie draft. Will be interesting to see how he compares to Stefan Giro, another rookie drafted winger

He's also unlikely to have done much game based training in the last 6 months, so it's expected that he would be rustier than most.

 

[Spirit Level]

How long is Johnson away? Would love to see him playing for peel soon

 

[Bring back Drum]

He's also unlikely to have done much game based training in the last 6 months, so it's expected that he would be rustier than most.

Yes there were quite a few unnecessary melts in the Nathan O’Driscoll direction after he missed most of the preseason & jumped into WAFL football last season.

 

[FreoRicci]

Fremantle Dockers intrasquad match: Neil Erasmus, Jye Amiss, Tyler Keitel, Lachie Cullen, Bailey Rogers & more​

Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Sat, 5 March 2022 1:55PM
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Jordan McArdle

Neil Erasmus looks to dispose of the footy. Credit: Justin Benson-Cooper/The West Australian

Key forward Jye Amiss got through his first competitive hit-out as a Fremantle player but it was fellow top-10 pick Neil Erasmus who stood out in Saturday’s scratch match against Peel Thunder at Cockburn.
Amiss, who was the Dockers’ first selection in last season’s national draft at No. 8, played the opening half in his return from a quad injury before doing running drills half-time.
The East Perth recruit played as a key forward against teammates Joel Hamling and Ethan Hughes and didn’t hit the scoreboard.
Erasmus continued his strong first pre-season at Cockburn, winning plenty of footy through the midfield and showcasing his elite workrate and running ability.
Erasmus went from half-back to half-forward in one passage of play late in the second half, with his second kick hitting train-on Tyler Keitel on the chest inside 50.
The Subiaco product then drifted forward for a brilliant third-quarter goal, slotting through a banana on his right boot.
Hard-running rookie Karl Worner showed glimpses of his potential on the wing but lacked polish by foot, while uncapped second-year midfielder Nathan O’Driscoll got better as the game went on for the Peel side, which prevailed by seven points in a see-sawing contest.
Inside mid Connor Blakely dominated for the second week in a row.
Thirteen Fremantle-listed players took the field split across the two teams.
Ruckman Lloyd Meek didn’t play in a sign he will be held over as an emergency for Sunday’s AAMI Community Series derby at Optus Stadium, despite Doig medallist Sean Darcy expecting to return from a thumb injury.
Dual Bernie Naylor medallist Keitel, who played against the Dockers last week for West Coast, booted two second-half majors and had several other scoring shots.
He put an exclamation point on a decent performance with a classy long-range snap in the final minute.
Peel small forward Lachie Cullen booted two goals to push his case for a rookie spot.
Sandover medallist Bailey Rogers was strong in the midfield in the opening half before being rested after half-time, with South Fremantle key defender Blake Schlensog also prominent in his half a game.
Schlensog played on hulking Dockers forward Josh Treacy and kept him goalless in the first half after his three-goal display last week.
Treacy also spent time against Hamling and took a few contested marks inside 50.
Highly rated Fremantle Next Generation Academy talent Josh Draper, who is eligible for this year’s draft, showed a bit as a key forward before a late stint in the ruck.
NGA product turned second-year Docker Joel Western had some really nice moments including goal of the day in the second term, while AFL-listed teammate James Aish was classy off half-back.
Swan Districts colts premiership player Tyrell Metcalf, recruited by Peel over the off-season, kicked two goals in a minute in the second quarter in an explosive display.
Peel pocket rocket Tyrone Thorne was electric through the middle and up forward, hitting the scoreboard before half-time, with his WAFL captain Ben Hancock also standing out.

Sign Keitel ASAP. Worth a spot.
Any word on Aish? Sorry if mentioned before. Injured? Hasn’t been spoken about

 

[Purpletown]

Even Judd played a game of WAFL before debuting

Pav played a game for South Fremantle before his first AFL game from memory?

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Yes there were quite a few unnecessary melts in the Nathan O’Driscoll direction after he missed most of the preseason & jumped into WAFL football last season.

Being played out of position was 90% of the problem.

 

[Bring back Drum]

Being played out of position was 90% of the problem.

No it wasn’t, he was being eased back into competitive football off a half back flank as he wasn’t ready to run on the ball yet. He was blowing up in the first game of the year, missing targets & making a few mistakes all because he missed 80% of the preseason.
The intention was always to get some match fitness into him before moving him up the ground. He was being unfairly criticised on here because of it.

 

[Taylor]

He came to the club with a shoulder issue and spent ages on the bike. He wasn't going to really start being an AFL footballer until this year with a proper preseason

 

[FreoMatt]

Or maybe that just have to prove themselves against mature bodies in The WAFL like every other player before him.

The biggest issue I see for all our young guys and injured players who haven’t got a spot in the preseason games is they have no where to play to press their case for a game. The VFL starts one week after the AFL and the SANFL starts two weeks after, but the WAFL doesn’t start until 4 weeks after the AFL. WTF? What do all our guys who are likely to miss round one like Amiss, Eramus, Walker, Hamling, Sturt, Blakely, Hughes, Aish, Tucker,Meek, O’Driscoll, Worner do???…..just sit around getting no match fitness and no chance to show there wares!! Even the ammo’s start two weeks before the WAFL maybe we enter a team in G grade


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[ilikepotatoes]

No it wasn’t, he was being eased back into competitive football off a half back flank as he wasn’t ready to run on the ball yet. He was blowing up in the first game of the year, missing targets & making a few mistakes all because he missed 80% of the preseason.
The intention was always to get some match fitness into him before moving him up the ground. He was being unfairly criticised on here because of it.

That was not the intention, we tried to turn him into a defender.

 

[Madas]

The biggest issue I see for all our young guys and injured players who haven’t got a spot in the preseason games is they have no where to play to press their case for a game. The VFL starts one week after the AFL and the SANFL starts two weeks after, but the WAFL doesn’t start until 4 weeks after the AFL. WTF? What do all our guys who are likely to miss round one like Amiss, Eramus, Walker, Hamling, Sturt, Blakely, Hughes, Aish, Tucker,Meek, O’Driscoll, Worner do???…..just sit around getting no match fitness and no chance to show there wares!! Even the ammo’s start two weeks before the WAFL maybe we enter a team in G grade


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WANTED

DENMARK / WALPOLE FOOTBALL CLUB is seeking new players for the mens league team

We will be struggling to fill our league team this year so we will take them
Anyone looking for a game or know anyone down this way PM me

 

[freo1997]

WANTED

DENMARK / WALPOLE FOOTBALL CLUB is seeking new players for the mens league team

We will be struggling to fill our league team this year so we will take them
Anyone looking for a game or know anyone down this way PM me

How good do you have to be..

It's been 5 years in the wilderness.

 

[Freomaniac]

I think the biggest question most have is where do the goals come from? Going on last year, you have to kick AT LEAST 270 goals in the season to make finals. It's going to take a team approach to get there

From our first choice 7
Tabs - 45
Freddy - 30
Walters - 30
Schultz- 25
Switta - 25
Lobb - 20
Treacy - 20

I reckon this is close to a best case realistic scenario going on history, that means we need close to 80 goals from everyone else. I think that's possible through a combination of others rolling through there and the midfield kicking 2 goals a game between them.

Interesting post. Freos gotta kick 270 goals from 22 games to make finals.

220 goals from 22 games is 10 goals a game.

11 goals a game is 242 goals over the 22 game season.

12 goals a game is 264 goals over a 22 game season.

Dead certain freo did that in 2012, 2014 and 2015.

The question is can freos foward line get 8 goals a game and the mids average 4 goals a game? Yep they are capable. But that number can vary.

Saying that, Essendon made finals averaging 11 goals a game.

I have posted many times last season freo are a medium scoring side. Freo were kicking 11-14 goals a game when freo won games.

11.12.78 wont win many games at home. You would be very lucky to put away a bottom 4-6 side.

12.12.84 would give you a good chance to beat any side in bottom 10.

13.12.90 would beat most sides with this era of footy. Very likely to beat any 5th to 8th placed side if you got a good defence

14.12.96 would beat most teams at home or away.

 

[Taylor]

Denmark is a beautiful place for a getaway. Breaking out the headband for a run away from the contest would be a good excuse to get out of the city

 

[Taylor]

He gets on base?

 

[Dayts]

He gets on base?

Sorry Taylor the link I up loaded didn’t work so I wiped it.
But was just thinking that chat about goals required for wins reminded me of the movie Moneyball.
And that Treacy is our goal kicker going forward, so needs to play

 

[wakojako]

Does anyone get Headland vibes from Erasmus with the way he attacks the ball? If he can learn to sink them from the 50 on the run he could be our very own Des.

 

[eastfreo75]

Had some podcast listening time this morning and decided to do the rounds on the afl previews which are starting to emerge.
Fox Footy had Tom Morris, Joey Montagna and Max Laughton previewing the first 9 clubs alphabetically. They didn’t spend much time on us but basically Morris and Laughton felt it was “highly unlikely” freo would play finals this year. Despite getting 10 wins last season they felt we were lucky in a couple of close ones and really were an “8-win side last year” based on predicted wins (whatever that is). The jump to finals is too big according to these experts and if we managed 10 wins in 2022 it will meet expectations for the club.
Over on SEN SA, Adam Cooney was more positive about us - had us with 12 wins making finals, though the other guy on his show has us just missing out with 10 wins. Whilst these guys seemed knowledgeable about freo, the bullshit radar did tweak upwards a bit when they started talking about Jye Amiss’s fantastic pre season (hasn’t he been on light duties all summer?).
In the west, Duffield has us making the 8 while quarters doesnt - just outside it.
I don’t expect people on channel 7 media like Lloyd, Richardson, BT, Carey, hodge, etc etc to have us anywhere near the 8 in their pre season predictions either so it will be interesting to see what happens.
On thing that’s clear at this early stage - it’s going to be a long year here in Melbourne listening to Carlton and Essendon getting pumped up by all and sundry. A few early season defeats for both these sides would do every other clubs fans a favour from having to listen to the hype about them.

Predicted wins is based on predicted goals.

Predicted goals is based on the likelihood a shot on goal results in a goal.

Say a shot on goal from a certain area is 90%. That shot is worth 5.4 points.

Another example a certain shot has a chance of 60%, then it’s predicted score is 3.6.

Last example, say a shot has 10% chance then it’s worth 0.6 points.

Now if you combined the three goals the predicted points would be 9.6 points.

The really last season that we kicked lower than expected goals.

What amazes me is that nobody gives a good chance to make finals.

We had the second highest injury troll, expected points was lower than actual points and we played only 10 home games.

 

[Wizard]

Does anyone get Headland vibes from Erasmus with the way he attacks the ball? If he can learn to sink them from the 50 on the run he could be our very own Des.

That’d be a disappointing outcome.

 

[theGav56]

Predicted wins is based on predicted goals.

Predicted goals is based on the likelihood a shot on goal results in a goal.

Say a shot on goal from a certain area is 90%. That shot is worth 5.4 points.

Another example a certain shot has a chance of 60%, then it’s predicted score is 3.6.

Last example, say a shot has 10% chance then it’s worth 0.6 points.

Now if you combined the three goals the predicted points would be 9.6 points.

The really last season that we kicked lower than expected goals.

What amazes me is that nobody gives a good chance to make finals.

We had the second highest injury troll, expected points was lower than actual points and we played only 10 home games.

There is a bit of a logjam of sides who could push into the 8, and the likes of Carlton, Hawthorn and Essendon would be the headlines.

Slipping under the radar is also the better option for now.

 

[Madas]

How good do you have to be..

It's been 5 years in the wilderness.

Decent for League and pretty fit but the reserves side needs players as well