Until a coach wants to reward or encourage his own. Some are excellent with their votes, while some apportion multiple votes to their players following ten goal defeats.
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Contrary to popular thought, I actually have no issue with the umpires awarding votes for the Brownlow. I think they're entitled to have an award that they alone judge
Personally, I think the problem is that we are so steeped in tradition that we tend to weight the award a lot more highly than we do. Other awards. That's a football community thing rather than an umpires thing.
I know having spoken to several players about it that they all rate different awards differently. Some value the coaches award above all else. Are those rate the players MVP award as the most prestigious. Some still value the Brownlow while some players look at it as a great night for a piss-up
The good thing is that we do have these other awards. You can value each as you like just like the players do. There is nothing really wrong with any of them and sometimes human error and bias does play a significant part in the outcome of all of them
Personally, I think the problem is that we are so steeped in tradition that we tend to weight the award a lot more highly than we do. Other awards. That's a football community thing rather than an umpires thing.
I know having spoken to several players about it that they all rate different awards differently. Some value the coaches award above all else. Are those rate the players MVP award as the most prestigious. Some still value the Brownlow while some players look at it as a great night for a piss-up
The good thing is that we do have these other awards. You can value each as you like just like the players do. There is nothing really wrong with any of them and sometimes human error and bias does play a significant part in the outcome of all of them
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OH, Errol, I would give anything just to get him to us. Carlton supporter as a kid, does that count anymore?
Would have been interesting if Neale and Daicos tied and then faced off next week in the GF, imagine the media with that one.
Would have been interesting if Neale and Daicos tied and then faced off next week in the GF, imagine the media with that one.
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Every year there is whinging about the votes and umpires casting them...
Its been the same since 1924, can't see it ever changing, nor should it...
However I'd like to find a way to recognise/reward forwards and defenders, as the Brownlow is a midfielders award...
Maybe have a Lockett Medal for the forward with most votes and a Doull Medal for the defender with the most votes
Its been the same since 1924, can't see it ever changing, nor should it...
However I'd like to find a way to recognise/reward forwards and defenders, as the Brownlow is a midfielders award...
Maybe have a Lockett Medal for the forward with most votes and a Doull Medal for the defender with the most votes
All I could think of last night when Naicos was pipped was this
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I love the Brownlow, all the women spend days if not weeks preparing and all the guys turn up looking like they've just been shot out of a cannon, I reckon they should give the medal to the scruffiest player, now that that would be a really close contest
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First Brownlow haven't watched since 92.. whether just busy with work (preso this morning) or still flat after Saturday and needed a break from AFL for a while, also realising none of our players had a shot with our start to the season.
Gobsmacked at Neale winning the thing and a heck of a lot of other votes that were given to other players. Even Cripps getting so many votes compared to Cerra, Saad, Newman, Weitering who I think had far more impact on the season in its entirety than what Cripps did on field (leadership impact different story).
At least the Daicos hype didn't over influence umps giving him votes where not deserved... but Neale is a total surprise... Wanganeen and Woewoedin reincarnated.
Gobsmacked at Neale winning the thing and a heck of a lot of other votes that were given to other players. Even Cripps getting so many votes compared to Cerra, Saad, Newman, Weitering who I think had far more impact on the season in its entirety than what Cripps did on field (leadership impact different story).
At least the Daicos hype didn't over influence umps giving him votes where not deserved... but Neale is a total surprise... Wanganeen and Woewoedin reincarnated.
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kids these days lol
He's magnificent, isn't he? His run of form to finish the year was outrageous. In a magic wand scenario, he's the player the Blues would love to have. His left boot is part cannon, part surgical tool.
I took Neale @ $13 as part of a multi, to collect $1350. Couldn't hold my nerve and cashed out for $950 with two rounds to go.
So i think the umps did a wonderful job
So i think the umps did a wonderful job
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I reckon it's the first one I have watched since 92.
Hard knowing which way the votes will go as a lot of it is speculation by the media. Not sure whether the umpires get the stats or just go off gut instinct of what they have seen, will have to ask my ex umpire friend.
My gut feel is that the previous winners get a leg up by the umpires, or is it that we judge them harsher as we compare them to their best years?
Bontompelli did himself no favours, as when he was good, he was ridiculously good and probably should have been awarded 5 votes, but when he was just good it didn't match his ridiculously good games, if that makes sense.
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Patrick Cripps – 22
Charlie Curnow – 17
Sam Docherty – 7
Jacob Weitering – 6
George Hewett – 5
Sam Walsh – 5
Blake Acres – 3
Nic Newman – 3
Adam Saad – 3
Adam Cerra – 2
Harry McKay – 2
Jack Silvagni – 2
Jack Martin – 1
See Aph gets it of course … good boy CezChanged his shoes
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Does a 13 possession game with no goals getting 3 votes, trigger alarm bells in regards to spot fixing?
How do 4 umpires come to that conclusion?
How do 4 umpires come to that conclusion?
No, because it would be so obvious if there were any bets on JHF to get votes in that game.
Russo flipped his teammates not to vote for diesel according to Diesel so who knows
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It should act as a basis to ask the umpires, how did the four of you come to this?
Which umpire pressed for this?
There’s always strange decisions but this one is the craziest one I’ve seen from this count.
Very hard to claim a player was influential with no goals and 13 touches.
Agree - Midfielders medal - the fact that players like Jacob Weitering, Darcy Moore, Lever and May hardly get a vote is ridiculous.
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Dow was invited to the Brownlow but only got to sit down after 3/4 of the count when someone got too drunk.
Pretty sure...
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