Prediction 2023 Ladder Prediction Thread

[Cringle]

Ladder

1. Melbourne Demons
2. Richmond Tigers
3. Geelong Cats
4. Carlton Blues
5. Sydney Swans
6. Collingwood Magpies
7. Port Adelaide Power
8. Fremantle Dockers

9. Gold Coast Suns
10. Brisbane Lions
11. Footscray Bulldogs
12. St Kilda Saints
13. Hawthorn Hawks
14. Essendon Bombers
15. West Coast Eagles
16. North Melbourne Kangaroos
17. GWS Giants
18. Adelaide Crows

 

[PattyKwasagun]

1. Melbourne - Back to full fitness, I think they'll be somewhat unstoppable again. Saw Richmond falter the year after their breakthrough premiership before bouncing back, and I think Melbourne will do the same and most likely win the flag in 2023.
2. Carlton - Primed and ready to go, and will make a massive leap next year.
3. Brisbane - I think we will be significantly better with the addition of Dunkley and Ashcroft. Coaching uncertainty is the only potential disruption here. Haven't been confident to back us for the flag any of the last four seasons, but feel like 2023 is the year that the stars may align for us.
4. Western Bulldogs - They will finally have strong key position players next season with Darcy developing, JUH maturing, Jones back on board, and Naughton freed up to not carry the weight of the world on his shoulders. It's been their missing piece for some time.
5. Gold Coast - There have been so many false dawns with the Suns, but I think this is finally the time for them to make a statement.
6. Adelaide - Certainly the biggest call here, but generally at least one surprise team from outside the 8 jumps in, and I think it might be them. Have really loved their build in recent years, and think their forward line will be very hard to contain with Rankine in there.
7. Geelong - Still strong and thereabouts, but with less drive now that they have finally won the flag they have been chasing.
8. Sydney - Recent history suggests that teams who lose grand finals by big margins struggle the following year. If any club is professional and talented enough to defy this trend, it is Sydney - but I thought their ladder position was probably a step ahead of where their actual build was this year anyway.
9. GWS - Still so much talent on that list, and I think Kingsley will help to unlock it. I reckon they'll spend most of the season in the 8 before slipping a bit as the year goes on.
10. Fremantle - Couple of steps back with their list changes, before bouncing into the top 4 in 2024.
11. Port Adelaide - Pretty similar season to 2022 on the cards, which I expect will see the end of Hinkley.
12. Collingwood - Loved watching Collingwood play this year so this prediction is with no sense of joy. I just think this season was something of a fairytale run, and can't see them repeating it.
13. West Coast - Slightly better than this year on the back of their mature players, but not noticeably enough to make too much of a difference.
14. Richmond - This one may make me look stupid, but I feel as though their list now is entering a phase of slipping back. Not sure Taranto and Hopper will make much difference to that.
15. Essendon - They could also be a surprise packet under the right coach, but hard to back with any confidence.
16. North Melbourne - Small steps forward.
17. St Kilda - Not sure Ratten will survive 2023 unfortunately. Big fan of his, but their list looks in a pretty tricky state.
18. Hawthorn - Mitchell did an outstanding job in 2022, but if the rumoured outs (Mitchell, Gunston) come to fruition, they will struggle. That mature talent has kept them competitive at a stage of a list build where you often wouldn't be.

 

[Chewy on your bootsma]

1. Brisbane
2. Geelong
3. Sydney
4. Melbourne
5. Carlton
6. Port Adelaide
7. Fremantle
8. Richmond

9. Collingwood
10. Gold Coast
11. Western Bulldogs
12. Essendon
13. St Kilda
14. GWS
15. Adelaide
16. Hawthorn
17. West Coast
18. North Melbourne

 

[Danger in Texas]

1: Fremantle
2: Carlton
3: Richmond
4: Geelong
5: Sydney
6: Gold Coast
7: Melbourne
8: Port Adelaide
9: Brisbane
10: GWS
11: Collingwood
12: Hawthorn
13: Western Bulldogs
14: Adelaide
15: North Melbourne
16: St Kilda
17: Essendon
18: West Coast

 

[Trav 20]

I think they have a significant coaching advantage over those other 2 teams, which should keep them in good stead. Also young, but that could be a double-edged sword and scar them

Yes, good list and well coached.

Btw, I should have included Adelaide with the Giants and Footscray as GF hidings.

 

[Falconista]

1. Melbourne
2. Carlton
3. Brisbane
4. Geelong
5. Sydney
6. Collingwood
7. Gold Coast
8. Fremantle_______
9. Richmond
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Essendon
12. Hawthorn
13. St Kilda
14. Adelaide
15. GWS
16. North Melbourne
17. West Coast
18. Port Adelaide

 

[Skipper_]

1. Melbourne
2. Brisbane
3. Western Bulldogs
4. Carlton
5. Richmond
6. Geelong
7. Sydney
8. Gold Coast
9. Collingwood
10. Adelaide
11. Fremantle
12. Essendon
13. Port Adelaide
14. Hawthorn
15. St Kilda
16. North Melbourne
17. GWS
18. West Coast

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Contenders

• Geelong
• Melbourne
• Sydney
• Carlton
• Collingwood

There or thereabouts

• Brisbane
• Richmond
• Western Bulldogs
• Fremantle
• Gold Coast (A team comes from nowhere every year, might as well be them)

Middle of the pack

• St Kilda
• Gold Coast
• Port
• Adelaide (Reckon they make a mini jump this year, finals the year after)

Rebuilding

• Essendon
• North Melbourne
• Hawthorn
• GWS
• WCE

 

[BandF]

1. Geelong
2. Collingwood
3. Melbourne
4. Carlton
5. Sydney
6. Richmond
7. Fremantle
8. Brisbane

9. Gold Coast
10. Port Adelaide
11. Western Bulldogs
12. GWS
13. St Kilda
14. West Coast
15. North Melbourne
16. Essendon
17. Hawthorn
18. Adelaide

 

[GoldenMagpie16]

1. Geelong
2. Carlton
3. Collingwood
4. Richmond
5. Melbourne
6. Brisbane
7. Gold Coast
8. Fremantle
9. Sydney
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Adelaide
12. Hawthorn
13. Essendon
14. Port Adelaide
15. West Coast
16. North Melbourne
17. St Kilda
18. GWS

Finals
QF 1: Geelong def Richmond
QF 2: Carlton def by Collingwood
EF 1: Melbourne def Fremantle
EF 2: Brisbane def Gold Coast

Semi 1: Richmond def by Melbourne
Semi 2: Carlton def Brisbane

PF 1: Geelong def by Carlton
PF 2: Collingwood def Melbourne

Grand Final
Collingwood 28.13 181
Carlton 4.4 28

 

[Cuzz09]

It's weird as a fan of the premiership winning side the main excitement probably has worn off already.

The Sunday you just watch the footy shows and get the paper/internet stuff then try and find merch/stuff on that day.

The part you want is the time from when you realise you're gonna be premiers to about an hour after the siren.

After that it's weird calm happy but quiet vibes.

Saying that...

2023:

1. Sydney
2. Brisbane
3. Geelong
4. Carlton
5. Richmond
6. Melbourne
7. Port Adel
8. Fremantle

9. Adelaide
10. Collingwood
11. W.Bulldogs
12. Essendon
13. Hawthorn
14. St.Kilda
15. West Coast
16. GWS
17. Gold Coast
18. North Melbourne

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[gouki88]

Yes, good list and well coached.

Btw, I should have included Adelaide with the Giants and Footscray as GF hidings.

Most recent GF's (except Pies v Eagles) have been pretty boring. All about prelim week!

 

[Fat Nyfe]

1. Sydney - shocker GF but their list is excellent and improving
2. Geelong - More talent coming in, they won’t drop off
3. Brisbane - Dunkley is a big get for their thin midfield
4. Melbourne - still up there
5. Collingwood - very well coached and still plenty of experienced players.
6. Richmond - Still good and Taranto and Hopper fix an area of need
7. Bulldogs - should be higher with their stacked midfield and talls coming in, but they’ll underdeliver again.
8. Gold Coast - cautiously picking them as a riser to finals, no excuses
9. Fremantle - I think we go back before going forward. Youngest team in the comp with the outs/ins, scary in a couple years
10. GWS - another bolter and could replace GC in the 8. New coach new energy, will show up Leon Cameron

Leon Cameron

Age

53

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

20.8

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

big time.
11. Carlton - their Brownlow and Coleman contenders will carry these underachievers again, but they will underachieve again.
12. Port - no man’s land, Hinkley finally sacked.
13. Adelaide - list is still too thin
14. St Kilda - Going nowhere
15. West Coast - could bounce a little if they keep their older players fit but their list of young talent is dire.
16. Hawthorn - Bits and pieces of a decent team but not enough.
17. North - Clarko won’t be there and they’ll still be way off
18. Essendon - rabble

 

[GoldbergsGold]

12. Port - no man’s land, Hinkley finally sacked.

You mean gifted a 40 year contract extension for stability purposes.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

How are people tipping Melbourne to win, coach and forward strategy an absolute dog’s breakfast.

Yep, that forward line is a real worry. I'm surprised how many have Brisbane in the top 4, they'll get Ashcroft and maybe Dunkley but they've got other issues elsewhere as well.

 

[gouki88]

Yep, that forward line is a real worry. I'm surprised how many have Brisbane in the top 4, they'll get Ashcroft and maybe Dunkley but they've got other issues elsewhere as well.

Maybe new coach?

 

[Cuzz09]

Carlton and Richmond are 2 that could go deep in September if they stay fit.

Could see them both in Prelims say v Geel or Syd

Tigers add Hopper and Taranto to their midfield with Lynch firing and the Blues continue their rise up the ladder.



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[coylez]

1. Melbourne
2. Sydney
3. Collingwood
4. Geelong
5. Brisbane
6. Carlton
7. Richmond
8. Fremantle

 

[a mayes ing]

Yep, that forward line is a real worry. I'm surprised how many have Brisbane in the top 4, they'll get Ashcroft and maybe Dunkley but they've got other issues elsewhere as well.

Like what? Midfield was by far our most pressing area of need which will help significantly having Dunkley and Ashcroft.

 

[gouki88]

Like what? Midfield was by far our most pressing area of need which will help significantly having Dunkley and Ashcroft.

I don't know much about your list and who is coming up, but you need some KPD help. Gardner and the third tall back you play aren't good IMO. Too immobile with Andrews

 

[Mr Cheese]

9. Fremantle - I think we go back before going forward. Youngest team in the comp with the outs/ins, scary in a couple years

11. Carlton - their Brownlow and Coleman contenders will carry these underachievers again, but they will underachieve again.

Agree with 99% of the list. I think you're right about us (Freo) taking a backwards step given the changes and expected losses, but it does depend on the off season; I could just as easily see us threatening top four due to natural improvement, potential incoming talent (including a fully fit Fyfe) and improved cohesion (there was clearly some unsettled players in the back half of the year).

Carlton I have to disagree. I'd love you to be right, but that was year 1 with a new coach; they'll improve next year and you'd think they'd be hungry after missing out by so little. Could be anything next year, dangerous side.

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[No SPIN]

Interesting that so many expect a down year for Coll and don’t realize “process” and not “luck” was the reason for success in 2022.
Pure luck can’t explain such a long winning streak.

 

[juss]

Interesting that so many expect a down year for Coll and don’t realize “process” and not “luck” was the reason for success in 2022.
Pure luck can’t explain such a long winning streak.

True, but generally games decided by small margins do have an element of luck, a bounce of the ball, a bad umpire's call, a few moments here or there. There's also something called regression to the mean, "the idea that rare or extreme events are likely to be followed by more typical ones." - basically, all those close games that could have gone either way that they won the majority of (extreme event), a few moments go the other team's way and they lose a few of them (more typical event) and drop a little.

They could certainly improve again in 2023, but with a likely harder draw coming for them, it wouldn't surprise if they miss the top 4. Remember from outside this year's top 4, teams like Brisbane, Freo, Carlton, Richmond are all going to be looking to improve strongly and contend for top 4, not to mention smokies outside the 8 like Gold Coast, Port Adelaide who history shows some sort of bottom team makes a big jump every year.

 

[Trav 20]

Interesting that so many expect a down year for Coll and don’t realize “process” and not “luck” was the reason for success in 2022.
Pure luck can’t explain such a long winning streak.

It wasn't all luck, but there was a component of it.

Ironically, the team that had an extraordinary number of close wins during the H&A lost their two finals by 6 points or less.

At the end of the day, you were a 104% team, which is a reflection of your quality.

 

[bradfisher14]

1. Melbourne
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. Sydney
5. Richmond
6. Brisbane
7. Footscray
8. Collingwood
9. Fremantle
10. Gold Coast
11. Port Adelaide
12. GWS
13. St. Kilda
14. Hawthorn
15. Essendon
16. West Coast
17. Adelaide
18. North Melbourne