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Fair enough. My point was more that lets say Adelaide or Gold Coast hit a nice run and win 13/14 games, we may then be reliant on one of the others falling simply to make it in.
Possible but very unlikely.
 
Possible but very unlikely.
I reckon it'll be pretty bunched up in 3 weeks. I don't really rate many of the Victorian teams.

I've got Bulldogs beating Freo and losing to Collingwood (plus bye). 9-7, low %.
St Kilda losing to Brisbane, beating West Coast and losing to Melbourne. 9-7, low %.
Essendon losing to Port, Freo (away) and Adelaide. 8-8, low %.
Adelaide 9-7, highest % of these 4.

Then Geelong 9-7 or 8-8 depending on whether we can beat Melbourne at home (coin flip for me, even with absentees). Ready to welcome Essendon to GMHBA. Given we play St Kilda and Bulldogs again, if we hit form I could still see us dislodging one of those 3 sides.
 
I reckon it'll be pretty bunched up in 3 weeks. I don't really rate many of the Victorian teams.

I've got Bulldogs beating Freo and losing to Collingwood (plus bye). 9-7, low %.
St Kilda losing to Brisbane, beating West Coast and losing to Melbourne. 9-7, low %.
Essendon losing to Port, Freo (away) and Adelaide. 8-8, low %.
Adelaide 9-7, highest % of these 4.

Then Geelong 9-7 or 8-8 depending on whether we can beat Melbourne at home (coin flip for me, even with absentees). Ready to welcome Essendon to GMHBA. Given we play St Kilda and Bulldogs again, if we hit form I could still see us dislodging one of those 3 sides.
I’m on 81 tips after 118 matches at this stage of the season. That’s 69%.

I prefer not to rely on who I think will rise or fall and just have. A simple rule of thumb.
 

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I have us making to semi final against Port at their home…picked us to lose but if we get there who knows!

To get 6th I had us winning all our home games except next week against melbourne. Most of our home games are not gimmys but if we are back on track we should beat those teams around the bottom of the 8 or just outside

We can lose 3 more from here and I have those loses against the other top 4 teams. We need to beat everyone else..or pinch one of those
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I have us making to semi final against Port at their home…picked us to lose but if we get there who knows!

To get 6th I had us winning all our home games except next week against melbourne. Most of our home games are not gimmys but if we are back on track we should beat those teams around the bottom of the 8 or just outside

We can lose 3 more from here and I have those loses against the other top 4 teams. We need to beat everyone else..or pinch one of those
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Rather miss the 8 altogether like 2015, get a Top 10 pick in a very strong draft, bring in some players, and go again in 2024 off a full pre-season - with another into key players for the future like Bruhn, O. Henry, Bowes, J. Clark, Neale, Sav, Knevitt, Dempsey, Holmes, Mullin, Simmo, Conway Whyte etc. Add in TDK, Doedee in the 2nd half of the season, and maybe a couple of other bargain pick ups, and we're well on our way to rebuilding on the run again.

Will probably go hard in 2024 at another FA, and then try to contend again in 2025 - ala 2015/2016 when we brought in Danger (could be Walsh that we go for in 2026 as well).

Season feels done for mine. Too many injuries, too much lack of continuity, and no real time where we've ever looked altogether threatening - except against the lower sides.

Be interesting to see when that realisation hits for the MC, but I've no doubt we'll keep going until we're mathematically out of contention.
 
I'm on 83 for 70% so forgive me if I'm not reliant on your highly inaccurate modelling.
I’m also on 83. I tipped Port this week then changed to Geelong 5 mins before the bounce 😞

Fwiw I think we miss finals. Cannot see how we possibly beat Melbourne.
Our run home is extremely difficult. Probably for the best anyway - if we did make it we would just be making up the numbers. Injuries and an extremely poor preseason have cost us unfortunately.
 
I’m also on 83. I tipped Port this week then changed to Geelong 5 mins before the bounce 😞

Fwiw I think we miss finals. Cannot see how we possibly beat Melbourne.
Our run home is extremely difficult. Probably for the best anyway - if we did make it we would just be making up the numbers. Injuries and an extremely poor preseason have cost us unfortunately.
It's win-win in a way. If we do make it we need to have beaten a lot of good teams so would head in with strong form. Lose a few more and that is simply like finals arriving early to knock us out.

Melbourne caught Collingwood at the right time. They've lost to Freo at home, Essendon and almost lost to Gold Coast. They have plenty of down days. At GMHBA we are a chance.
 
It's win-win in a way. If we do make it we need to have beaten a lot of good teams so would head in with strong form. Lose a few more and that is simply like finals arriving early to knock us out.

Melbourne caught Collingwood at the right time. They've lost to Freo at home, Essendon and almost lost to Gold Coast. They have plenty of down days. At GMHBA we are a chance.
I also think we're not as far off where we were at at the same stage last year as many people seem to think.
Post-bye last year we had a lacklustre win over WC away, then scraped over the line in that game against Richmond at the G. Against better opposition those games may have been losses. But once July came around we were starting to see some more consistent 4 quarter performances leading up to finals.
I'm just not buying the negativity about our season. I think we're still right in the hunt.
 

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I do not think you can compare us this year to the last.

The team has a huge injury list and leadership issues.

There is a chance Carlton will even finish above us.

Sure we may improve but it is unlikely.

Sadly I do not see us finishing in the top 8
 
I do not think you can compare us this year to the last.

The team has a huge injury list and leadership issues.

There is a chance Carlton will even finish above us.

Sure we may improve but it is unlikely.

Sadly I do not see us finishing in the top 8
That is just hurtful. 😳
 
I also think we're not as far off where we were at at the same stage last year as many people seem to think.
Post-bye last year we had a lacklustre win over WC away, then scraped over the line in that game against Richmond at the G. Against better opposition those games may have been losses. But once July came around we were starting to see some more consistent 4 quarter performances leading up to finals.
I'm just not buying the negativity about our season. I think we're still right in the hunt.
more importantly the people that matter (ie. those who choose the team) will feel the same way as you.
 
Funny. After that win against Melbourne my ladder predictor now has us finishing 5th, 2 games and % inside the 8. So harder for us to miss the 8 now than not make it tbh (I still assume we lose to Brisbane and Collingwood but all other games we will start favourite in now)
 
We finish top 4 if we win out or lose just the one.

Complete nuffie style, but let's plan for that.
Melbourne and Brisbane are fallible. We need to bank these next 3 winnable ones and put some pressure on those 2 sides heading into our big test at the Gabba. St Kilda have a chance to do us a favour although if they do us 2 favours they become a top 4 threat.

Long old way to go yet.
 

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Melbourne and Brisbane are fallible. We need to bank these next 3 winnable ones and put some pressure on those 2 sides heading into our big test at the Gabba. St Kilda have a chance to do us a favour although if they do us 2 favours they become a top 4 threat.

Long old way to go yet.
The positive of our draw is because just about every side we will play is above us we control our own destiny.

Heart says we finish 4th, head says 7th.

Just so hard to tell with us. When we win we play competition best football, unlike past years where we would just scrape by and bank the wins, albeit both methods being effective.

Unfortunately, we've looked worse than we have in years in some of our losses.

Part of me thinks that it's just one of those years where if we could just click the flag is ours. I genuinely don't rate the competition right now, but that's the footy purist in me speaking.
 
Is that this predicted ladder - I'm too lazy to read the article:

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It is. Based on formula of how hard the games are - not necessarily wins and losses.

I love the ladder predictor and it is always hard this far out. but particularly this year as I reckon we could have 1 game separating 6 teams at the end of the year going for the last few spots in the 8. So one change (between say richmond and st kilda which could be a toss of the coin) can completely change who gets in or not…

impossible to know
 
I have us making the top 4 with 15 wins. Would need to win the games we are expected to win and then beating either Collingwood or Brisbane. Finishing 4th would be same as finishing 1st. Final at the mcg against Collingwood. Anything can happen.
 
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