Training 2023 Pre-season thread

[Grassy75]

Luckily for us, Port have no forward system whatsoever. No use going with three talls when none of them can get their hands on the ball. With back-six selection in mind, I'd probably stick with what we threw out against Geelong. Payne, Andrews and Starc play tall while Rayner, Coleman, Mckenna and Rich take the rest.

Not sure if Joyce would get a run or not. Haven't seen him play yet but if we're desperate for another tall then he'd be my pick.

might be worth play Joyce to give him some match time with Melbourne and Bulldogs and Collingwood in our near future....

 

[T Rick]

Fish’s thoughts on the round 1 team.

He thinks that Zorko still won’t be right from his Hammy which is a bit of a concern for him but I think we have blokes that can cover for him now.
Talls in defence will be a lingering issue all year I think.

MOCK TEAMS: Who's in your club's best 22 for round one?

BRISBANE

B: Darragh Joyce, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Daniel Rich, Jack Payne, Keidean Coleman
C: Darcy Wilmot, Josh Dunkley, Jarrod Berry
HF: Lincoln McCarthy, Eric Hipwood, Zac Bailey
F: Charlie Cameron, Joe Daniher, Jack Gunston
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Hugh McCluggage
I/C: Conor McKenna, Deven Robertson, Will Ashcroft, Cam Rayner
EMERG: Noah Answerth, Jarryd Lyons, Jaxon Prior, Darcy Fort

NEW: Will Ashcroft, Josh Dunkley, Jack Gunston, Darragh Joyce, Conor McKenna
UNAVAILABLE: Callum Ah Chee (quad), Darcy Gardiner (foot).

NOTES: The main selection dilemma for the Lions comes in defence, with Marcus Adams (concussion) on the inactive list and Gardinerstill not quite right. With Port Adelaide sporting three genuine tall targets, Joyce could be called in, as could Ryan Lester. The real swing player is Rayner, who has trained and played in defence all pre-season, but can still be used in any part of the ground. Former skipper Dayne Zorko is unlikely to overcome his hamstring injury, paving the way for Robertson to get a deserved opportunity. – Michael Whiting

Shouldn't mock teams now be best 23?

 

[twhowler]

might be worth play Joyce to give him some match time with Melbourne and Bulldogs and Collingwood in our near future....

That’s a good point. Would still want to be entirely focused on winning this game though.

Zorko been out since early feb. Reported on feb 9 but happened a bit earlier. It would be madness to play a 34yo in that context. Get him fully fit through the 2s.

Anyone know what is wrong with Berry to make him miss the cats game? If he misses some spots up for grabs. You’d think 3 of Prior / Tunstill / McKenna / Wilmot will play.

 

[dlanod]

My wife would want proof. Or my life if I lied.

The latter would save you from going too, just FYI.

 

[scott_the_man]

Fish’s thoughts on the round 1 team.

He thinks that Zorko still won’t be right from his Hammy which is a bit of a concern for him but I think we have blokes that can cover for him now.
Talls in defence will be a lingering issue all year I think.

MOCK TEAMS: Who's in your club's best 22 for round one?

BRISBANE

B: Darragh Joyce, Harris Andrews, Brandon Starcevich
HB: Daniel Rich, Jack Payne, Keidean Coleman
C: Darcy Wilmot, Josh Dunkley, Jarrod Berry
HF: Lincoln McCarthy, Eric Hipwood, Zac Bailey
F: Charlie Cameron, Joe Daniher, Jack Gunston
Foll: Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale, Hugh McCluggage
I/C: Conor McKenna, Deven Robertson, Will Ashcroft, Cam Rayner
EMERG: Noah Answerth, Jarryd Lyons, Jaxon Prior, Darcy Fort

NEW: Will Ashcroft, Josh Dunkley, Jack Gunston, Darragh Joyce, Conor McKenna
UNAVAILABLE: Callum Ah Chee (quad), Darcy Gardiner (foot).

NOTES: The main selection dilemma for the Lions comes in defence, with Marcus Adams (concussion) on the inactive list and Gardinerstill not quite right. With Port Adelaide sporting three genuine tall targets, Joyce could be called in, as could Ryan Lester. The real swing player is Rayner, who has trained and played in defence all pre-season, but can still be used in any part of the ground. Former skipper Dayne Zorko is unlikely to overcome his hamstring injury, paving the way for Robertson to get a deserved opportunity. – Michael Whiting

I think this team is very close, but wouldn't surprise me if we play with just the 2 genuine talls in defence and let Rayner and Starcevich play third tall when needed.

From the practice matches, our defensive zone was set up well and allowed Andrews and Payne to come off their man to intercept the footy. This will be crucial if only playing 2 talls.

From that team,
Out: Joyce
In: Prior

 

[Scubaveg]

I’m more concerned about Payne’s availability to be honest.


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[Milux]

The latter would save you from going too, just FYI.

And a multitude of other problems lol. (I'm ok).

 

[Nunez]

I’m more concerned about Payne’s availability to be honest.


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Why?

 

[M Malice]

Why?

There was a report that he was icing his hamstring after the Geelong game, Cam Bruce said it was purely maintenance though.

 

[Nunez]

There was a report that he was icing his hamstring after the Geelong game, Cam Bruce said it was purely maintenance though.

He's fine

 

[StevoJenkins]

There was a report that he was icing his hamstring after the Geelong game, Cam Bruce said it was purely maintenance though.

Don't think Fish would put him in the team if he wasn't right, like he did with Gardiner.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Darcy Gardiner (foot).

Am I the only one who thought Gardiners shoulder was the issue still?

 

[M Malice]

He's fine

Don't think Fish would put him in the team if he wasn't right, like he did with Gardiner.

I agree with both of you... I was answering a question Nunez asked of Scubaveg as I was pretty sure that would have been Scubaveg's response, personally I was not worried about Jack's availability in the least.

 

[Dalions]

Am I the only one who thought Gardiners shoulder was the issue still?

Foot, Shoulder, Ankle, Knee, take you pick.

 

[FootyNorth]

To reflect for a moment, nice to have the selection dilemmas we have. At some stage we are gonna be hit with injuries. Having
Prior, Answerth, Lyons, Fort, Joyce, Tunstall and Mathieson (to name but a few) fighting for positions and waiting in the wings is very reassuring. Not sure but it feels to be the best depth we have had since the early 2000 glory days.

 

[briztoon]

Foot, Shoulder, Ankle, Knee, take you pick.

Back was the other serious issue Mighty Lions mentioned.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

 

[Hanley]

Just interested to note that we are now the odds on favourite for the Port away game on the AFL website according to their fixtures page. Sort of shifts the broader narrative that some were talking up about Port needing to win at home as favourites to stop the mob starting on Ken straight away.

 

[Section 5]

We saved on one airfare the Swans saved on Two.

 

[dlanod]

We saved on one airfare the Swans saved on Two.

Harris probably knocked it back when he heard he'd be in economy at his height.

 

[Viceregal]

Aker has put it all on the line with his prediction for Brisbane 23 ...

"A top four team if they play to their standard but the inclusions should make them better."

Of course there are seven teams listed for top four so ...

MSN

 

[Berrygood]

I think we will need to be a bit patient with Payne. Gotta remember he has only played 27 games, in one of the toughest positions on the ground. He is bound to make some errors and have some shockers. This will potentially be his first full season in the firsts with a great deal of responsibility on his shoulders, but I think the more he plays the better he will get. Just hoping he has an injury free season.

 

[Section 5]

I think we will need to be a bit patient with Payne. Gotta remember he has only played 27 games, in one of the toughest positions on the ground. He is bound to make some errors and have some shockers. This will potentially be his first full season in the firsts with a great deal of responsibility on his shoulders, but I think the more he plays the better he will get. Just hoping he has an injury free season.

Drafted in 2017 so Payne has been in the system for 5 years. No AFL games in the first 2 years.
However, 5 of those 27 games were finals so great experience for him.
He has looked fairly comfortable playing in the sims and trial games.
Possibly because he knows the spot is for him to lose.

I have high hopes for him this year but as you say he will have some clangers for sure.
He only had 1 clanger in the Cats game, compared to 5 each for co-defenders Andrews, Rich & McKenna

 

[rye]

The lesser known players at your club tipped to play senior footy in 2023

The youngsters, draftees or fringe players set to step up.

www.sen.com.au

interesting that sharp is mentioned by neale

havent been blown away by him in any of the match sim / praccy matches but there seems to be a lot of positive messaging coming out around him from the club

 

[Tom14]

Drafted in 2017 so Payne has been in the system for 5 years. No AFL games in the first 2 years.
However, 5 of those 27 games were finals so great experience for him.
He has looked fairly comfortable playing in the sims and trial games.
Possibly because he knows the spot is for him to lose.

I have high hopes for him this year but as you say he will have some clangers for sure.
He only had 1 clanger in the Cats game, compared to 5 each for co-defenders Andrews, Rich & McKenna

I don't have a direct memory of the clangers for Andrews, Rich McKenna, but guessing they were pressured kicks out of contest that got turned over? Payne's issues are the turnovers which are totally unpressured, which can hopefully decrease as he gets more experience.