List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[_Maximus_12]

Kent's biggest problem was that he could not make good decisions quickly. Dow does not have that problem.

Kent’s biggest problem was that he was an 80 percent chance of fumbling anything that came his way.

 

[kernelT]

I guess I’m moving to Bolivia

An ounce for $250 AUD what could go wrong.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

I’ll wait till bombers man Cal Twomey says something about the deal before I believe anything

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Jon Ralph is a ******* idiot. And that’s me being nice

Trouble is , knobs like Dodo read it , and then go....

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Kent’s biggest problem was that he was an 80 percent chance of fumbling anything that came his way.

A Saints' supporting mate at our cricket club got nicknamed Kenty after spilling a few sodas a few seasons back.

 

[St Neil]

For anyone who's not sure, here's what Ralph wrote. Note that the article was all in the conditional voice (would, could)...

St Kilda gets a first-round pick (selection 13) or end-of-first-round (pick 19) as free agency compensation for Gresham.

Then a week later in the trade period they hand that pick or something close to it back to Essendon for Dylan Shiel

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Dylan Shiel

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

MG

410.2

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

MG

334.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

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Ralph is suggesting in the article that we hand a first round draft compo pick AND Gresham to Essendon.

Gresham is 26 and in his prime. Shiel is 31 and an injury prone bust. Shiel has virtually no trade value.

Apparently, the benefit in the deal (according to Ralph) is we lose Gresham’s salary but take on Shiel’s contract (which is even more). And apparently Shiel is now an explosive midfielder (despite being a player in rapid decline).

Now I’ve read some tripe in my time but this thing from John is premium offal. There must be more to it that he has conveniently omitted from the article.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Chill pill fella's - first rule of tabloid "journalism" - pander to the majority.

Dons have more supporters than us so you report that the deal is in their favour even if its a moronic deal that will never happen.

And the Ralph proposal is just that - moronic and will not happen.

 

[botts]

Ralph is suggesting in the article that we hand a first round draft compo pick AND Gresham to Essendon.

Gresham is 26 and in his prime. Shiel is 31 and an injury prone bust. Shiel has virtually no trade value.

Apparently, the benefit in the deal (according to Ralph) is we lose Gresham’s salary but take on Shiel’s contract (which is even more). And apparently Shiel is now an explosive midfielder (despite being a player in rapid decline).

Now I’ve read some tripe in my time but this thing from John is premium offal. There must be more to it that he has conveniently omitted from the article.

Think he would want to re do that article. Grabage

 

[St Neil]

It’s evidently clear that Jon Ralph is an essendon supporter who gets his mail from their forum.

He’s a Tigers fan.

 

[St Neil]

Not sure if 8 is early enough to nab Sanders.

Be we’d have 8 and 12. Could use them as currency to move further up.

 

[Saintsydney]

Ralph is suggesting in the article that we hand a first round draft compo pick AND Gresham to Essendon.

Gresham is 26 and in his prime. Shiel is 31 and an injury prone bust. Shiel has virtually no trade value.

Apparently, the benefit in the deal (according to Ralph) is we lose Gresham’s salary but take on Shiel’s contract (which is even more). And apparently Shiel is now an explosive midfielder (despite being a player in rapid decline).

Now I’ve read some tripe in my time but this thing from John is premium offal. There must be more to it that he has conveniently omitted from the article.

Just going back to the skip bin to sort through this garbage - its such a feastering heap of cr#p that its kind of hard to move on from

But what is the click bait actually trying to say ???

"St Kilda and Essendon can work together to pull off the greatest trade-free agency heist the AFL has ever seen. And it is completely legal."

The article that follows then says Essendon shaft us harder than any club has ever been shafted ? And the headline says we are 'working together' - is he having Stockholm Syndrome fantasies and they have just got away from him a bit ? Lost a bit of a grip on reality ?

 

[goodie23]

Shiel had his chance to come to us - he chose poorly. They can keep him.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Shiel had his chance to come to us - he chose poorly. They can keep him.

If he had chosen us...

Max King would be playing for the Giants.

 

[stavro#4]

Chill pill fella's - first rule of tabloid "journalism" - pander to the majority.

Dons have more supporters than us so you report that the deal is in their favour even if its a moronic deal that will never happen.

And the Ralph proposal is just that - moronic and will not happen.

The article also makes a fool of his initial article saying st Kilda get pick 13

“St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

Some rivals believe the league would approve that kind of arrangement as the latest version of the Jack Bowes salary dump which advantaged Geelong and Gold Coast. “

 

[Banger9798]

Jon Ralph is a ******* idiot. And that’s me being nice

Is he really saying Essendon wind up with Pick 13 and Gresham in exchange for Shiel?
Ralph turn in ypur gun and your badge.

 

[Saintsydney]

The article also makes a fool of his initial article saying st Kilda get pick 13

“St Kilda would secure a first-round compo pick for Gresham (currently pick 13) and also improve its playing stocks by handing a draft pick to the Dons, who could give Ben Hobbs and Elijah Tsatas more midfield time.

But the AFL would need to approve both deals as fair value.

Some rivals believe the league would approve that kind of arrangement as the latest version of the Jack Bowes salary dump which advantaged Geelong and Gold Coast. “

Im starting to feel sorry for him now - might be having some kind of a breakdown - I hope he's ok

 

[saintmike65]

Very early doors. But possibility of another player on his last legs with a pick incoming

Haynes!!

 

[Veer Right]

Any other news other then the pages of Shiel talk?

 

[Miha]

can Haynes click a drop campaigner?

 

[gubby88]

Brilliant player development is our strong suit

Look at how we turned ole what's-his-name into an absolute gun

Sinclair?

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[gubby88]

The funny thing about this Jon aralph article, is that some posters here like Kernel believe that saints would actually give up a first rounder for 30 year old....


That's the funny thing [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji848]

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[kernelT]

Sinclair?

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Spencer White.

 

[Yabadoo22]

Ralph is off his head, I wonder if he means Essendon pay gresh enough for first round compo (currently 13), we take on shiels salary, and also swap our compo with essendons first (8), then trade a late novelty pick for Shiel.
So net gains/losses:

Saints
In:
Ess pick 8
Shiel

Bombers:
Gresham
Gresham compo (13)
4th round pick

We then head to the draft with essendons pick 8, and our current pick 12, or look to get into gold coasts pick 4 to nab whoever is left out of mckercher,duursma,Watson,Sanders

 

[gringo2011]

John Ralph is a clickbait generating half-wit. Whenever he comes up with his hypothetical deals, which never actually come to fruition, he always frames the deal in a way that would benefit the bigger club because, well, clickbait. He is the same with his predictions on MRO/tribunal predictions, small club, hang them, big club, nothing to see here move on, football act drivel drivel bullshit bullshit. Worst football pundit going around and that is saying something because there are some mouth breathing, knuckle draggers out there.

They reported it on SEN too. Said the same deal and said we would have a win win with us getting a quality midfielder and them getting a small forward. They had it as the Bombers helping to get us a first round pick to give them for Shiel too. Not sure that it's all bullshit.

 

[Joffaboy]

They reported it on SEN too. Said the same deal and said we would have a win win with us getting a quality midfielder and them getting a small forward. They had it as the Bombers helping to get us a first round pick to give them for Shiel too. Not sure that it's all bullshit.

The football media feed off each other, they would have seen Ralph's bs and now they have a talking point to fill in some time.
Don't believe a second of it.

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