List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Draftmas Day

[guruisatiger]

just wait til i tell melbourne that gawn wasn't as good of a prospect as josh fraser



simmo will be gutted to find out that he's gonna have to delist him

Who is Simmo ?

 

[rammmbo]

Considering media have said Blair is not picking up the phone for anyone you must have one hell of a hotline.

Do you actually believe what the media says ?

 

[tiger_tough]

Any word on if we have applied to have Mate Colina reinstated back on Cat B list due to injuries etc?

Aren't we delisting him? If so, then I'd say that means we'll be taking him as a Cat A. If the AFL was going to let us leave him on the cat B list then I doubt we'd have to go through the process of delsiting and re taking him.

 

[docko911]

Josh smillie will become our best player

I recall him being talked up as a potential clear number 1 last year but I’m not sure it is a good thing he has dropped off this year.

 

[austyn08]

Do you actually believe what the media says ?

When they are reporting they have nothing and can’t even make shit up, yes.
Twomey is even stumped and I would say he has one or more contacts than you, no offence.

 

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One recruiter remarked recently that if there was an award for consistency this year, Jagga Smith would have won it.
His Oakleigh Chargers talent manager, Alex Davey, goes further.

He says he hasn’t seen Smith play a bad game in three years.

“I’ve seen him play 40 or 50 games of football and probably not one bad one in there,” Davey said.

“He just finds his way to impose himself on the game and reminds me a little bit of a Nick Daicos at the same age. He’s very evasive, a great decision maker and he certainly has no problem finding the footy.”

Smith made headlines earlier this year when he gathered 50 disposals in one game for Oakleigh – but it wasn’t a major outlier compared to the rest of his campaign.

Across 12 games for the Chargers, he averaged 33.8 disposals.

He was also averaged 29.3 disposals across four matches for Vic Metro at the under-18 national championships.

“For me it starts at training,” Smith said of his incredible consistency.

“I try to train at a pretty high level so that when I go out on game day it all feels pretty natural.

“I’ve also been pretty fortunate through my junior pathway that coaches have given me a lot of belief and trust to play important roles in the midfield, which helps a bit with consistency.

“I go into every game really confident that I’m going to perform my role for the team and impact games. That comes through training hard and doing extra work.”

Some players are consistently brilliant in underage football, but struggle with the step up to seniors.

Not Smith.

He also racked up 31 disposals in an eye-catching VFL debut for Richmond in July.

“That was a big thing this year, playing against senior bodies in the VFL,” Smith said.

“I think I can build on my performances at VFL level, but they do give me confidence that with a full pre-season at AFL level, I’ll be able to hopefully impact next year at the top level. I know I’ll have to earn my spot first, though.”

LEADING FROM THE FRONT​

At the start of the year, Smith sat down with Chargers coach Ash Close to set some goals.

One of the biggest ones was further developing his leadership.

Smith was appointed captain of the Chargers and also went on to serve as skipper of Vic Metro.

He collected plenty of individual honours throughout the year – including winning Oakleigh’s best-and-fairest award and finishing equal-third in the Coates Talent League’s Morrish Medal count.

But what he was most proud of from a personal standpoint was being named captain of the under-18 All-Australian side after leading Vic Metro to the national championships title.

“I’m really proud of my leadership and my ability to drive standards at training as a leader,” Smith said.

“I wouldn’t say I was born to be a leader but I would say I’ve really improved on it this year and it’s something I’m really interested in being at the next level.”

Vic Metro coach Rob Harding has compared Smith to three-time Richmond premiership captain Trent Cotchin

9

Trent Cotchin

Age

36

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

.

“Whichever club picks him in the draft, they’re going to get a leader,” Harding said.

“He’s going to walk in, he’s going to learn from the leaders they’ve got, but then he’s going to put his own stamp on it at some point, too. He’s got club captain written all over him in the future.”

TOUGH COOKIE​

When they went to write a final report on Smith post-season, one recruiter said they were searching for a word that encapsulated the 18-year-old.

They landed on ‘tough’.

“He’s worn some big hits, Jagga, and I’ve never seen him stay down,” the recruiter said.

“He’s such a light body and it’s so hard to go out there and wear the hits and not show it.”

Smith has added a few kilograms to his frame this year with his work in the gym, but hasn’t looked to overdo it.

His mix of being nimble on his feet and being able to wear the big hits has meant size and weight has not been a huge concern.

“I’m pretty durable and I have been throughout the junior pathways,” Smith said.

“I think I can take a couple of hits, which is handy because I know it just gets tougher at the next level.”

Arguably the AFL’s toughest player – Port Adelaide’s Zak Butters

9

Zak Butters

Age

25

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

– reached out to Smith in recent weeks.

Smith has said all year that Butters is a player he looks up to, being a similar-sized onballer.

“He’s a smaller body but he’s probably the most courageous player in the AFL,” Smith said.

“For him to reach out to me as an 18-year-old kid who looks up to him is really inspiring.

“He offered me a bit of advice on what’s to come at the next level. He’s just said get into the club early and really earn the respect of your teammates and put in the hard yards and the rewards will come. He also said to play to your strengths, use my quick feet and have confidence in yourself.”

‘BANKABLE’​

Recruiters note that many of this year’s top-10 draft prospects are “not bulletproof”, given many have had injury and form issues this year.

However, Smith has been labelled “bankable”, as a player who scouts have no doubt will deliver at the next level.

Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne hold top-five draft selections and have all been strongly linked to Smith.

While the Crows would mean a move interstate, any Demons training at Gosch’s Paddock would be just down the road for the boy who has grown up in Richmond but barracks for Collingwood given his father, Michael, was drafted to the Magpies in 1988.

“He was 16 when he moved up from Tasmania to Melbourne when he got drafted,” Smith said of his dad.

“So he’s taught me about the sacrifices it takes to get to the top level and that’s something that’s really stuck with me – the sacrifices you need to make it in the AFL.”

Michael is now the grounds manager at Scotch College – where Smith finished school last year – while mum Kimelle works for the MCC.

“They both love their sport,” Smith said of his parents.

So, too, does their son, who also represented Vic Metro in basketball at under-15 level and began a Business and Sports management degree at Deakin University alongside his football duties this year.

“I’ve put my best foot forward, I think, to be a high pick in the draft,” Smith said.

“Now it’s just up to the clubs to see how they view it.

“I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t nervous, not knowing where I’m going to end up. But I’m just really keen to hopefully hear my name read out on Wednesday.”

Plenty to like about this kid and this article just further highlights why he should be considered a legitimate chance for the number 1 pick on Wednesday night.

 

[Mr Magic]

Josh smillie will become our best player

what role do you seem him playing?

 

[lizard man]

what role do you seem him playing?

The bontempelli role!

 

[lizard man]

I recall him being talked up as a potential clear number 1 last year but I’m not sure it is a good thing he has dropped off this year.

Swings and roundabouts …. He will recapture his form

 

[tigs2010]

Plenty to like about this kid and this article just further highlights why he should be considered a legitimate chance for the number 1 pick on Wednesday night.

 

[Mr Magic]

The bontempelli role!

can't see it and I do not think Bont is played right either.

I actually think Smillie is more inside and Bont more outside

Bont is more forward mid, Smillie more mid/centre IMO from what I have seen but SMillie can take a mark forward and kick a goal but not the way Bont can

 

[Tigerturbulance]

the publicity photos are already taken and ready to be launched on Weds night, Lalor and Smillie up up and awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[austyn08]

Josh smillie will become our best player

Think his kicking is very underrated.
If we are comparing him to Cripps he will be a better kick, but obviously tough to get to that level overall.
Hope we pick him up.

 

[lizard man]

can't see it and I do not think Bont is played right either.

I actually think Smillie is more inside and Bont more outside

Bont is more forward mid, Smillie more mid IMO from what I have seen but SMillie can take a mark forward and kick a goal but not the way Bont can

Either way he’s going to be a great player

 

[RoaringTiger]

I am not an expert but is there a degree of risk to taking lalor and smillie compared to safer bets like FOS/Jagga. Are we sure we want to take risks with both first picks?

 

[Mr Magic]

I think the Whitlocks are far too risky at picks 10 and 11 because at those heights there is not enough competition to get a proper read on their competitive ability.

If they had great tanks it might be different as one could argue they could play different roles.

Buddy was different because although inconsistent he did freakish things kicking goals etc for someone his height

 

[Mr Magic]

Either way he’s going to be a great player

not yet, he still has to do it

 

[GoTigers2015]

1 Lalor
2 Jagga
13 Travaglia
14 Shanahan
24 Dattoli
27 Dodson

 

[Tigerturbulance]

I am not an expert but is there a degree of risk to taking lalor and smillie compared to safer bets like FOS/Jagga. Are we sure we want to take risks with both first picks?

 

[Mr Magic]

I am not an expert but is there a degree of risk to taking lalor and smillie compared to safer bets like FOS/Jagga. Are we sure we want to take risks with both first picks?

How is Jagga not a risk?

at the end of the day we are not here to accumulate 200plus game AFL players, we are here to build premiership teams

I look at a draft year more about what players can and cannot do, rather than what players do 11 times versus 20 times in terms of the more acute factors

 

[blaisee]

Think his kicking is very underrated.
If we are comparing him to Cripps he will be a better kick, but obviously tough to get to that level overall.
Hope we pick him up.

Bigger than cripps
Better kick than cripps
Better athlete than cripps
Better hair than Cripps

 

[prodigy]

Jagga isn't going number 1.
People just trying to find something to talk about.

 

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Jagga isn't going number 1.
People just trying to find something to talk about.

Given nobody really knows, I'm not sure how people can continually disregard him as an option completely.

 

[Tigerturbulance]

Given nobody really knows, I'm not sure how people can continually disregard him as an option completely.