Injury 2024 Injury Report/Updates

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De Goey
Jordan De Goey

2

Jordan De Goey

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.1

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

2.3

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

will be assessed to determine his availability for Collingwood’s Round 11 match against Fremantle this Friday after experiencing awareness in his groin during Saturday’s game against Adelaide.
The 28-year-old has also been assessed and cleared of any delayed concussion symptoms following a collision in the final term of Saturday’s match.

McCreery
Beau McCreery will be accessed ahead of Friday night’s match having worked his way through the concussion protocols.

The 25-year-old who sustained a concussion in Round Eight, will need to get through a full week of training this week to be available for the game against Fremantle.

Mihocek
Forward Brody Mihocek

41

Brody Mihocek

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

G

1.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

will be accessed ahead of Friday’s game against Fremantle.
Having sustained a hamstring injury in Round Eight, the 31-year-old will need to get through a full week of training this week to be available for selection.

OTHER UPDATES
Begg
Following surgical reviews after suffering a knee injury during Collingwood’s Round Seven VFL match, the Club confirms Aiden Begg will be sidelined for the remainder of the season with a minor PCL injury.

The 21-year-old has been cleared of any ACL damage. The Club is in the process of moving him onto the Inactive List.

Bytel
Having sustained a concussion during Collingwood’s Round Nine match, Jack Bytel will be unavailable for Friday’s game against Fremantle as he continues to work through the concussion protocols.

Carmichael
Josh Carmichael continues to work through the AFL’s concussion protocols.

Elliott
Collingwood forward Jamie Elliott will continue to spend some time on a modified training program as he manages a minor vascular issue.
The 31-year-old has been in consultation with vascular specialists and he has seen improvements in his conditioning work.
Elliott is expected to return between Rounds 13-16.

Eyre
Josh Eyre is progressing through his hamstring rehabilitation and will start increasing his training loads.
The 21-year-old is working towards a return in Rounds 13-14.

Hoskin-Elliott
Will Hoskin-Elliott

32

Will Hoskin-elliott

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

232.7

4star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

180.6

3star

D

12.4

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

will spend some time on the sidelines after sustaining a hamstring injury during Saturday’s game. Scans have confirmed a minor strain to his hamstring.
The 30-year-old is expected to return in Round 13 for the Pies’ King’s Birthday match.

Howe
Jeremy Howe

38

Jeremy Howe

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

is progressing well from is minor groin strain sustained in Round 9. The 33-year-old is expected to return in Rounds 12-13.

McInnes
Forward Reef McInnes has entered the concussion protocols after suffering a head knock during the third quarter of Saturday’s game.

McStay
Dan McStay is continuing through his ACL rehabilitation and has started contact training away from the main group.

Mitchell
Tom Mitchell will continue to rehabilitate the planta facia issue he has been dealing with and will be unavailable for this week’s match.
The 30-year-old’s injury has not improved enough to be available for match play and is expected to be available for Rounds 13-16.

Steene
Oscar Steene is progressing well in his rehabilitation for a toe injury.
Steene’s return is expected in Round 18+.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

So DeGoat has a new injury, an abdominal issue. A strain takes about 2 weeks, a tear more 4 to 6 weeks. Hope the scans are positive....

 

[gerryg400]

So DeGoat has a new injury, an abdominal issue. A strain takes about 2 weeks, a tear more 4 to 6 weeks. Hope the scans are positive....

What’s the difference between a strain and a tear?

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

What’s the difference between a strain and a tear?

I guess with abdominal injuries the tissue or ligaments can be stretched and tear, which can be managed with rest, but a more serious abdominal injury could be a complete rip of the muscle, which is a longer rest period, which could even require surgery. I don't think we're down that path with DeGoey. I hope not anyway.
Abdominal injuries do also cause groin soreness, so there's a link there to his previous reported injury....

 

[Chameleon75]

Not for Brian unfortunately

he was just a naughty boy

 

[danielnajdek]

What happens if a team has so many injuries that they can't pick 23 fit players.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

What happens if a team has so many injuries that they can't pick 23 fit players.

We only have 29, and Richmond apparently only have 25.
I would assume if a club had only 22 or 21 players to choose from the primary list they would play rookie listed players....

 

[Capital Magpie]

This is the latest on the availability of JDG, Checkers and Beau

MSN

 

[The Royal Sampler]

What’s the difference between a strain and a tear?

Zilch.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

We only have 29, and Richmond apparently only have 25.
I would assume if a club had only 22 or 21 players to choose from the primary list they would play rookie listed players....

Eagles must have been pretty close to that situation in the previous couple of years. I'm trying to recall what they did, or what was suggested if they got any more injuries.

 

[gouki88]

Zilch.

Wrong - one sounds bad, one sounds less bad

 

[35Daicos]

We only have 29, and Richmond apparently only have 25.
I would assume if a club had only 22 or 21 players to choose from the primary list they would play rookie listed players....

Eagles must have been pretty close to that situation in the previous couple of years. I'm trying to recall what they did, or what was suggested if they got any more injuries.

Clubs can play rookie listed players any time they like, including Cat B rookies. That's been the case for several years now. The size of a club's injury list doesn't come into it.

I think if a club was to find itself with less than 23 listed players available, the AFL would probably allow them to draw on someone from their state league team. Clubs had top-up lists a couple of years back thanks to Covid (we had 20 players from our VFL list on ours), and West Coast called on quite a few of those players.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Clubs can play rookie listed players any time they like, including Cat B rookies. That's been the case for several years now. The size of a club's injury list doesn't come into it.

I think if a club was to find itself with less than 23 listed players available, the AFL would probably allow them to draw on someone from their state league team. Clubs had top-up lists a couple of years back thanks to Covid (we had 20 players from our VFL list on ours), and West Coast called on quite a few of those players.

Yep, I thought Eagles must have needed to.

 

[sr36]

Well why else would you risk an injury to a player?

Not sure it changes my point much. I said I was concerned about bringing him back too soon and it seems my gut was on point on this occasion.

Not only did he feel "groin awareness" after the game, it seems he has an abdominal strain.

I just thought given our constant talk of system/process, next man in etc etc, I thought we would have backed our system to get over the line without him. Particularly given we beat Carlton and West Coast without him.

After the game was Saturday night and he's in his 20s. Of course he felt groin awareness after the game.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Clubs can play rookie listed players any time they like, including Cat B rookies. That's been the case for several years now. The size of a club's injury list doesn't come into it.

I think if a club was to find itself with less than 23 listed players available, the AFL would probably allow them to draw on someone from their state league team. Clubs had top-up lists a couple of years back thanks to Covid (we had 20 players from our VFL list on ours), and West Coast called on quite a few of those players.

Yes of course, l knew that. I guess l was more saying if your primary senior listed players were injured, you would be looking at your rookies to play. But yes they can play anytime, as per Wil Parker for us this Friday night. I agree as well that the AFL would have to give concessions to clubs to pick top up players if their numbers were really low....

In saying that, will it come to fruition that clubs have a supplementary list separate from the 44 playing list, with about 10 to 12 players on it, that could include a mixture of backmen, rucks, forwards and mids. So when clubs get to the bare minimum on their list, they can select players off their supplementary list and play them? These players can be picked from leagues all over Australia, VFL, SANFL, WAFL, NEAFL etc...

 

[35Daicos]

Yes of course, l knew that. I guess l was more saying if your primary senior listed players were injured, you would be looking at your rookies to play. But yes they can play anytime, as per Wil Parker for us this Friday night. I agree as well that the AFL would have to give concessions to clubs to pick top up players if their numbers were really low....

In saying that, will it come to fruition that clubs have a supplementary list separate from the 44 playing list, with about 10 to 12 players on it, that could include a mixture of backmen, rucks, forwards and mids. So when clubs get to the bare minimum on their list, they can select players off their supplementary list and play them? These players can be picked from leagues all over Australia, VFL, SANFL, WAFL, NEAFL etc...

I'm sure the AFL would be keeping a close eye on the situation, and if things do get that desperate for someone this week they'd allow them to bring in 'outsiders' if it's deemed necessary. Fortunately, the MSD is only days away, and clubs will be able to get some relief there. Hopefully this current 'injury crisis' doesn't continue, but ideally the size of playing lists will be increased again by the AFL for 2025 (after they were reduced when Covid came along), making it far less likely such a situation occurs in the future. The salary cap is about to go up significantly, and surely it wouldn't hurt if clubs could have an extra couple of players on their list again.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

I'm sure the AFL would be keeping a close eye on the situation, and if things do get that desperate for someone this week they'd allow them to bring in 'outsiders' if it's deemed necessary. Fortunately, the MSD is only days away, and clubs will be able to get some relief there. Hopefully this current 'injury crisis' doesn't continue, but ideally the size of playing lists will be increased again by the AFL for 2025 (after they were reduced when Covid came along), making it far less likely such a situation occurs in the future. The salary cap is about to go up significantly, and surely if wouldn't hurt if clubs could have an extra couple of players on their list again.

Yeah agree that the lists need to increase and probably to at least 50. Not sure how much that would drain the talent pool around the country though....

 

[The Kaiser Chief]

Yeah agree that the lists need to increase and probably to at least 50. Not sure how much that would drain the talent pool around the country though....

why? No club has been unable to select 22?

 

[76woodenspooners]

The concussion protocol is an interesting one.

We’ve got 4 out at the moment (3 of them left the AFL field during play) for a condition that barely a few years ago didn’t stop people from playing. And the 3 AFL ones happened in no-fault situations where nobody got reported.

List sizes haven’t increased and bench sizes haven’t increased to deal with it.

Obviously you want an outcome where people don’t get concussed in the first place but hard to see how that can happen from here.

And let’s not kid ourselves, in the past there would have been times when those 4 (or more) concussed players wiuld have been running around the footy field not knowing up from down.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

why? No club has been unable to select 22?

What a narrow minded view. Its not only about whether clubs can select 22 players each week, it's about keeping players durable throughout a season. This week there's currently around 160 players unavailable through injury and concussion issues, so if we want to keep the bench sizes at the same number, and the length of quarters the same, then increase playing lists, so there's flexibility and cover should clubs get a raft of injuries.....

 

[jimmy35]

The concussion protocol is an interesting one.

We’ve got 4 out at the moment (3 of them left the AFL field during play) for a condition that barely a few years ago didn’t stop people from playing. And the 3 AFL ones happened in no-fault situations where nobody got reported.

List sizes haven’t increased and bench sizes haven’t increased to deal with it.

Obviously you want an outcome where people don’t get concussed in the first place but hard to see how that can happen from here.

And let’s not kid ourselves, in the past there would have been times when those 4 (or more) concussed players wiuld have been running around the footy field not knowing up from down.

It’s going to be an ongoing work in progress for sure. It will only get more heavily scrutinised as cases from another era are shown to be CTE in the coming years. I’d suggest concussions are less prevalent now than ever before but as you say it was ‘play on’ in the past.
Legendary feats from bygone eras will never be repeated, Gavin Browns return to the arena in 1990, as an example and many more in other codes as well.
The head and brain do need to be protected and as you say no real developments in the replacement of players applies as yet.
As is the case for any injury clubs lists can be shredded so perhaps it will simply come under that banner.

 

[Vankri]

The big watch on concussion is the timing between prelims and the GF. The AFL needs to get on the front foot and move the week off from pre finals to pre GF (or have both) or it will result in players tragically missing or clubs and doctors doing everything in their power to avoid assessing concussions during prelims.

 

[Ctracks]

What a narrow minded view. Its not only about whether clubs can select 22 players each week, it's about keeping players durable throughout a season. This week there's currently around 160 players unavailable through injury and concussion issues, so if we want to keep the bench sizes at the same number, and the length of quarters the same, then increase playing lists, so there's flexibility and cover should clubs get a raft of injuries.....

This Hawks supporter gets lost occasionally, stumbling onto this board.

 

[76woodenspooners]

The big watch on concussion is the timing between prelims and the GF. The AFL needs to get on the front foot and move the week off from pre finals to pre GF (or have both) or it will result in players tragically missing or clubs and doctors doing everything in their power to avoid assessing concussions during prelims.

That might become moot given the talk about the 12 day concussion protocol possible being extended, as it currently is in lower grades.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Yeah agree that the lists need to increase and probably to at least 50. Not sure how much that would drain the talent pool around the country though....

From memory, the last time we saw an increase in list sizes was just prior to GWS and GCS entering. The premise being expanding the talent pool to cater for the additional 2x squads. With Tassie about to enter and talk of a potential 20th team, it’d seem appropriate to again grow squads.