List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Zondor]

Really? Did he not walk away from the Xerri and H.Clark trades?

I’ll think you’ll find that those two examples are a reflection of StKilda rather than Rawling being some Ironstein negotiator. :stern look

 

[giantroo]

I’ll think you’ll find that those two examples are a reflection of StKilda rather than Rawling being some Ironstein negotiator. :stern look

Sure, it wasn't Rawlings putting his foot down from the start...

“We’ve got no real interest in losing Tristan at all"

 

[Shermanator]

Sure, it wasn't Rawlings putting him foot down from the start...

“We’ve got no real interest in losing Tristan at all"

Game, set, match..

 

[Zondor]

Sure, it wasn't Rawlings putting him foot down from the start...

“We’ve got no real interest in losing Tristan at all"

So yah telling me it’s like if StKilda asked about Larkey or any other player we have no interest in losing? :stern look

 

[The Dingrel]

We had an academia recruitment option in luff, dare say i dont have to add any more.

statistician, meh! Personally think Perplexed raises some valid points re list management and trading (as distinct from talent identification which is where you're footy experience comes from). In my view, AFL teams could do well by tapping into financial markets skill sets in list management (portfolio management, optimisation within constraints, risk management, psychology of trading). Not saying its black and white, but there are parallels with players as assets, to be invested in, and traded, interactions between players and player types ( covariance), and how they accrue to maximising the value of the overall team (portfolio).

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

statistician, meh! Personally think Perplexed raises some valid points re list management and trading (as distinct from talent identification which is where you're footy experience comes from). In my view, AFL teams could do well by tapping into financial markets skill sets in list management (portfolio management, optimisation within constraints, risk management, psychology of trading). Not saying its black and white, but there are parallels with players as assets, to be invested in, and traded, interactions between players and player types ( covariance), and how they accrue to maximising the value of the overall team (portfolio).

 

[The Dingrel]

I think he does fill a gaping need. Distribution of HB plus experience of what it's like to be in a good side.

25 was a bit rich, but it's hardly make or break.

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I tend to agree, its one thing to look at a trade in isolation, but I prefer to look at it in context of value to the team and what skill set and attributes he can contribute to develop synergies and make the whole team better. An extreme example is LDU is our best player, but having a team of LDU's isn't a flag winning team.

 

[The Dingrel]

funny you post that, I actually am involved in baseball (and financial markets)....but there is no edge in "money ball" approach,,,,that's just a ticket to compete these days and no coincidence that the Yankees, Dodgers, and Mets have the biggest payrolls and look at the end of season results. AFL is different with the cap BUT increasingly the combines given everyone access to the same data. So I think the art in AFL is to manage your cap amonst a portfolio of players in age, development, and abilities. Identifying DFA's, state league players, older guys, players out of favour at other clubs, that can play a role and on minimum pay, so that you can keep and attract the high end talent. That's where I think things get interesting for North starting next season with LDU. Yeah we have some talent, but now we have to sell them the dream and keep them there all together, and why I think it was important to bring in the mature players that we have.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Devington]

Win Win Agreement on the horizon!
Why the deal must get done!
Here are four ways how!

Ok, so it's nothing.

 

[Shermanator]

Win Win Agreement on the horizon!
Why the deal must get done!
Here are four ways how!

Ok, so it's nothing.

 

[The Nostradamus]

What a pointless article

And they somehow forgot to raise the deal we actually would do which is 2 for 6 and 11

With no f2 going anywhere

 

[Hatchy1992]

Oh dear. Seems like the media is cheering for us to help out Richmond.

 

[Kanga Glory]

Let's gather all the rumours add some special sauce and come up with 4 outcomes which are baseless but fill a article that people will click on

 

[Horace]

What a pointless article

And they somehow forgot to raise the deal we actually would do which is 2 for 6 and 11

With no f2 going anywhere

Probably because North would win that deal hands down. Richmond are not quite that stupid.

 

[Chip Scab1]

What a pointless article

And they somehow forgot to raise the deal we actually would do which is 2 for 6 and 11

With no f2 going anywhere

We wait! It's all we can do - the tigers have so many raffle tickets, you'd think they'd want some certainty

 

[Boro]

Probably because North would win that deal hands down. Richmond are not quite that stupid.

Have a look at past drafts and see if North would win the deal hands down. You’ll be surprised. You don’t give up pick 2 in a draft unless the offer is too good to refuse. 6 and 11 we might do because of our circumstance this year but odds are we’d lose on the trade.

 

[justroyal]

Just read that on afl.com

Ahhh.
I’d rather we just keep pick 2?
Maybe trade a next years first and other picks if need be for this years if we’re that desperate?
I’m not sure we have to do anything of those ****ed up scenarios.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

What a joke. Points mean nothing, it's the player available that matters and they use the old point system on top of that which favours Richmond.

 

[DuckYeah]

 

[shinboner magic]

Rather pick Draper and trade a f2 for a pick in the 20s/30s then use our pick 62

 

[Merlin007]

Rather pick Draper and trade a f2 for a pick in the 20s/30s then use our pick 62

agreed, and I hope that's they way it plays - for all the hoo-ha about an even draft, pick 2 is just that

 

[Kofi]

Rather pick Draper and trade a f2 for a pick in the 20s/30s then use our pick 62

100% this. Draper at 2 and trade our f2 for Richmond’s pick 23 and take the best tall available. Pick 62 should come in a bit so hopefully there’s a good slider there.

 

[Boozeroo]

Let's just draft Tauru and stick it right up em.

 

[DuckYeah]

Let's just draft Tauru and stick it right up em.

sticking it right up em would be drafting the second best mid. I agree, lets stick it right up em