List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[The Nostradamus]

Player trade value
Parker - pick 40
Darling - late 50s pick, we take on majority of his salary
1 of Macrae or Lobb - future 3rd and take on all of the salary

Owies see you in the PSD

 

[Tiberius]

Interesting that a lot of people are supportive of Darling to provide leadership.
I have it on very, very good authority that he is not popular with fellow players at WC, that his wife is an overbearing and contentious figure (shades of Ben Brown) and that senior officials at WC just want him gone.

If only we had a somebody like a 300 game premiership player and former captain who still loved the club, was good mates with Brady and Clarko, and had coached the man for the last decade who we could call and ask about Darling before we approached him.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Ralphy's just making stuff up with the pick 30. It's a late pick if anything as we'd take the full salary.
I would guess WCE want Darling out the door to play young kids and shed his 800k salary to bring in Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

(UFA), Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

27

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

or Riley Garcia in trades. They'd also want to sign Oscar Allen

4

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

and Waterman to big deals as well.
I very much doubt that WCE would have cap issues though, they'd be like us, trying to hit the salary floor.

 

[buttox]

Pick 30, get absolutely ****ed with a rusty fork.

They said a future fourth gets it done.
We don't need them to pay salary.

 

[year of the roo]

Why does this bloke feel the need to make everything about the WA clubs?

 

[Disco Dew]

Id rather get Mahony back to help larks

 

[buttox]

Why does this bloke feel the need to make everything about the WA clubs?

Hes the wa news guy.

 

[Disco Dew]

Why does this bloke feel the need to make everything about the WA clubs?

Cos he’s from WA

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

They said a future fourth gets it done.
We don't need them to pay salary.

I rather it not get done at all. Does nothing to help Larkey as he’s beyond cooked and he is not a leader in any form.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Tell me how adding a guy to our forward line that is a complete liability going to help Larkey?

He might lay the odd tackle, which will be a novelty for our forward line.

Also, I know this sounds crazy - but we might actually draft some good key forwards this year, and the youngsters could benefit from an elder statesman showing them the craft and work required in the gym.

 

[Disco Dew]

He might lay the odd tackle, which will be a novelty for our forward line.

Also, I know this sounds crazy - but we might actually draft some good key forwards this year, and the youngsters could benefit from an elder statesman showing them the craft and work required in the gym.

Both fair points… I suppose

I just don’t want darling. In clarko we trust I guess???
****ing testing my trust though

 

[year of the roo]

Cos he’s from WA

I don't think that's a good reason.

 

[year of the roo]

Hes the wa news guy.

So ****ing what. Where's the QLD, NSW and SA journos telling us that he's not going there?

 

[Roo202]

Pick 30? WTF. We should get there 2nd pick for taking him. Please don’t do this. Worst trade EVER

 

[see see]

Id rather get Mahony back to help larks

 

[Harris 10]

He might lay the odd tackle, which will be a novelty for our forward line.

Also, I know this sounds crazy - but we might actually draft some good key forwards this year, and the youngsters could benefit from an elder statesman showing them the craft and work required in the gym.

Hire him as a development coach then.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Both fair points… I suppose

I just don’t want darling. In clarko we trust I guess???
****ing testing my trust though

Its gonna get done for a fourth rounder mate.

The options at that price point are Darling, Membrey or Day.

Sure we could take pick 58 to the draft and hope and pray we get the next Souv or Calsher Dear that everyone else misses, but they'll need a years development before we can hope for them to play a game, which is too late for our purposes.

 

[gerry101101]

My fear is that if some of our reported trade targets are true, we will be trading for the right talent to push for a 9th to 12th ladder position. I.e. trading in just enough moderate remaining talent from past-their-use-by-date elder statesman to escape the bottom rungs of the ladder for no man’s land. Right back to where we were before the long Brad Scott induced nightmare began.

I hope we’re not just doing all this out of desperation to get out of our hole to “anywhere but here will do”.

I get that we lack mature heads to guide the kids coming through. But if the likes of Darling are our only options, then I’m concerned. No short cuts, no sh1t cuts.

 

[ferball]

Pick 30, get absolutely ****ed with a rusty fork.

For Darling?

Someone told me 33 and Dyl Stephens tonight. I assume they were two seperate deals. One to get Darling the other to get rid of Disco.

 

[chubbspeterson]

My fear is that if some of our reported trade targets are true, we will be trading for the right talent to push for a 9th to 12th ladder position. I.e. trading in just enough moderate remaining talent from past-their-use-by-date elder statesman to escape the bottom rungs of the ladder for no man’s land. Right back to where we were before the long Brad Scott induced nightmare began.

I hope we’re not just doing all this out of desperation to get out of our hole to “anywhere but here will do”.

I get that we lack mature heads to guide the kids coming through. But if the likes of Darling are our only options, then I’m concerned. No short cuts, no sh1t cuts.

I doubt any of them will help us rise out of the bottom four immediately even if we got to 6-8 wins.
Anyone mature we bring in won't cost that much draft capital. It's 3rd/4th/5th round picks.
I'm not so keen on Macrae or Darling as they are lone wolfs. I want more of a leader like Parker.
I'm very much of the view don't start trading out 1st and 2nd rounders unless its a quality player (Andrew, Callaghan or Aleer from GWS for example) and let's be honest those players aren't coming to us right now.

 

[chubbspeterson]

For Darling?

Someone told me 33 and Dyl Stephens tonight. I assume they were two seperate deals. One to get Darling the other to get rid of Disco.

Please elaborate on this. West Coast only have 23 and 59.
Are we giving up a F2 to get 23 off WCE? Do you mean Pies pick 33? Dogs 32?

 

[Mr north man]

Without taking into account contract situations, I'd be pretty confident that at least 10 of them would be gone, maybe even more. I'm hoping that the 50-50's would only be depth players at that stage (unless they improve significantly)

Gone: Mcdonald, K.Dawson, Shiels (obviously), Pink and Teakle.

Highly Likely Gone: Phillips & RJH

50-50: Corr, Stephens, Fisher & Tucker

Unfortunately McDonald won’t be going nowhere as he will be captain

 

[ferball]

I rather it not get done at all. Does nothing to help Larkey as he’s beyond cooked and he is not a leader in any form.

I can see the value in his tackle numbers a kpf and apparently he has a good work ethic off field but ... yeah. We replace him and get another goal+ every two games on average and and extra two tackles per game on average.

Also...

They say history never repeats but W80 was 32 and cooked when he came to us.

 

[Disco Dew]

the other to get rid of Disco.

 

[Shinboner1]

My fear is that if some of our reported trade targets are true, we will be trading for the right talent to push for a 9th to 12th ladder position. I.e. trading in just enough moderate remaining talent from past-their-use-by-date elder statesman to escape the bottom rungs of the ladder for no man’s land. Right back to where we were before the long Brad Scott induced nightmare began.

I hope we’re not just doing all this out of desperation to get out of our hole to “anywhere but here will do”.

I get that we lack mature heads to guide the kids coming through. But if the likes of Darling are our only options, then I’m concerned. No short cuts, no sh1t cuts.

Thats what we need though.
Mature bodies to carry us while our younger players mature and push training standards.