List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - Draft Analysis

[NZ_Tiger]

Hawthorn were extremely annoyed we took him. They rated him highly.

You also said we were taking Taylor. Are you just guessing or is it an actual source.

 

[Rich01]

We obviously have a matrix that we use to provide our rankings. Otherwise how do you measure a KPP against a small forward? This year speed has been given a higher weighting.

So I’m sure they can honestly say they went best available, but they also tweaked it so speed pushed players higher.

Who was better though?

Robey- Because he played a couple of cracker games at the back end of the year and is a big bodied mid. Tested slow and lacked agility and looked it on the field. Fanbois blew this off and said he tested injured. Can he improve this, along with his kicking? Decision making and midfield craft can be taught so I’m ok with that missing from his game.
Needs to put it all together. Not saying he can’t do it and his elite attributes are tantalising.

Will make it as a third tall at the worst so I can’t see him as a bust.

Sharp - Mr Consistent and his lack of ‘highlights’ went against him. No mind blowing burst of speed from packs or line breaking ability. Just meat and potatoes ball winning abilities. Put him in the middle for 200 games.

Farrow- A half back that may end up a mid. Not as quick as Grjl, can win his own ball.

Taylor- a guy who often finds himself out of position because he’s challenged reading the ball in the air and makes up with it with incredible tenacity. A key cog as a third defender in a backline. Solid 200 gamer.

As for Grjl, needs to get more ball, particularly contested to make it as a mid. May never get there that’s the risk. But he’s a runner that breaks lines and creates new angles and ways into the forward line. Projects as an elite wingman to me but could surprise and go inside or could disappoint and just end up a very good running half back.

 

[We are back baby!]

Absolutely

We obviously have a matrix that we use to provide our rankings. Otherwise how do you measure a KPP against a small forward? This year speed has been given a higher weighting.

So I’m sure they can honestly say they went best available, but they also tweaked it so speed pushed players higher.

Absolutely.... Cumming and Grlj are impressive footballers ... clearly last season we were found wanting against teams with more run than us .... so there are 2 parts to solving that problem

1. have more run and speed in the team you select each week.
2. get better at playing against speed.

Recruiting Peucker, NRT and having Burton and the big wheelbarrow as SSP effectively ensures that there is an additional 8 players running around with elite pace ... as a result ... all on the list get practiced at playing the game at a higher pace.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

Who was better though?

Robey- Because he played a couple of cracker games at the back end of the year and is a big bodied mid. Tested slow and lacked agility and looked it on the field. Fanbois blew this off and said he tested injured. Can he improve this, along with his kicking? Decision making and midfield craft can be taught so I’m ok with that missing from his game.
Needs to put it all together. Not saying he can’t do it and his elite attributes are tantalising.

Will make it as a third tall at the worst so I can’t see him as a bust.

Sharp - Mr Consistent and his lack of ‘highlights’ went against him. No mind blowing burst of speed from packs or line breaking ability. Just meat and potatoes ball winning abilities. Put him in the middle for 200 games.

Farrow- A half back that may end up a mid. Not as quick as Grjl, can win his own ball.

Taylor- a guy who often finds himself out of position because he’s challenged reading the ball in the air and makes up with it with incredible tenacity. A key cog as a third defender in a backline. Solid 200 gamer.

As for Grjl, needs to get more ball, particularly contested to make it as a mid. May never get there that’s the risk. But he’s a runner that breaks lines and creates new angles and ways into the forward line. Projects as an elite wingman to me but could surprise and go inside or could disappoint and just end up a very good running half back.

I don’t mind our picks. I’d hoped we’d been more active in trade period or when it was known that the blues had to trade.

if the draft class is weak, then it goes without saying that the top guys are looking better against weaker opposition. There’s every chance there will be no elite on ballers come out of this draft. But bumping up speed and run we are a good chance of getting some really good flankers, the types we’d normally be spending later picks on.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

You also said we were taking Taylor. Are you just guessing or is it an actual source.

I didn't say we were taking Taylor. I said in the interview with Gieshen, he sounded very much like we were taking Taylor. Big difference.

 

[Joey longshadow]

Tigercast X Rhy Gieschen | FAN Q&A

-Ranking criteria
-Data vs Eye test
-Sliders and Bolters including a bit on Robey
-How/when we measure draft success
-The key attributes for this years draft selections
-A bit on each of the players we selected
-the train on players
-Louis Kellaway
-2026 & 2027 draft.

Rhy was absolutely fantastic with his time and his answers.

Any likes / comments / shares of the video are greatly appreciated, spread the tiger love!

Really enjoyed the podcast mate ...

 

[Michaels]

Really enjoyed the podcast mate ...

Thanks heaps mate appreciate it!

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

If you listen to the media generational talents are like movies about assassins. There are approximately 7000 movies made annually about different assassins, but at last count there are only a handful of actual assassins operating in real time. Movies about assassins trying to assassinate other assassins, assassins being married to each other whilst unwittingly being hired to assassinate each other, 3rd and 4th generation assassins, assassins conventions, whole countries full of assassins. If you believe the movies there are more assassins than people who are not assassins. At some point surely the assassins run out of people to assassinate? It doesn't seem to make sense.

But I swear I have heard about 300 current footballers described by the media as generational talents. I am thinking of starting a breakaway league and calling it the GTFO League. Generational Talent Football Operatives League. There are more than enough of them to go around.

Anyway, I am off to watch Ass Assassins Academy iv.

If you watched Water Rats - which I didn’t - it seemed that bodies were turning up in Sydney Harbour every week. I doubt that was happening.

 

[tigs2010]

If you watched Water Rats - which I didn’t - it seemed that bodies were turning up in Sydney Harbour every week. I doubt that was happening.

Stingers was better. Dermie cameo

 

[Charlie Pannam]

did anyone ask if taylor failed the dh test?

I saw an interview recently in which Steven May said he was going to take Xav under his wing, that’ll get him DH status by the end of preseason

 

[THE THIN MAN]

I saw an interview recently in which Steven May said he was going to take Xav under his wing, that’ll get him DH status by the end of preseason

Associate Diploma

 

[Wrenny]

Disappointed with the lack of highlights of blowjobs. Gotta lift lizard man

 

[tigerdan]

Must have been tempting to take Adelaide's offer of two firsts. Sure you miss Grill but someone else would have slipped through the cracks (assuming Adelaide took Sharp).

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Hawthorn were extremely annoyed we took him. They rated him highly.

GWS and Hawks very keen confirmed by Tombstone. Melbourne, Bummers and Norf not interested. Which teams have the better recruiting record!

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Who was better though?

Robey- Because he played a couple of cracker games at the back end of the year and is a big bodied mid. Tested slow and lacked agility and looked it on the field. Fanbois blew this off and said he tested injured. Can he improve this, along with his kicking? Decision making and midfield craft can be taught so I’m ok with that missing from his game.
Needs to put it all together. Not saying he can’t do it and his elite attributes are tantalising.

Will make it as a third tall at the worst so I can’t see him as a bust.

Sharp - Mr Consistent and his lack of ‘highlights’ went against him. No mind blowing burst of speed from packs or line breaking ability. Just meat and potatoes ball winning abilities. Put him in the middle for 200 games.

Farrow- A half back that may end up a mid. Not as quick as Grjl, can win his own ball.

Taylor- a guy who often finds himself out of position because he’s challenged reading the ball in the air and makes up with it with incredible tenacity. A key cog as a third defender in a backline. Solid 200 gamer.

As for Grjl, needs to get more ball, particularly contested to make it as a mid. May never get there that’s the risk. But he’s a runner that breaks lines and creates new angles and ways into the forward line. Projects as an elite wingman to me but could surprise and go inside or could disappoint and just end up a very good running half back.

I never got the fuss on Taylor. I wouldn’t have taken him in the top 15.

 

[sabso]

I never got the fuss on Taylor. I wouldn’t have taken him in the top 15.

The oracle has spoken. Taylor’s going to win a brownlow.

 

[Groupie_]

comedy gold

 

[Barunga Bullet]

Just as well for the majority of your posts are rambling garbage.

Let’s here your quote “I’m only interested in premierships” for the 1000th time.

You forgot to add that he doesn't post to get a BJ

 

[db26]

comedy gold



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That's North for you trying to paint it as a positive no matter how they paint it they got there pants pulled down there living in fairy land. I'm I missing something Whitlock the next Rance or something.

 

[tigs2010]

comedy gold



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Under the new matching rules it wont be "chewed up" it will be necessary to actually get them if theyre any good haha

 

[Groupie_]

Under the new matching rules it wont be "chewed up" it will be necessary to actually get them if theyre any good haha

That's North for you trying to paint it as a positive no matter how they paint it they got there pants pulled down there living in fairy land. I'm I missing something Whitlock the next Rance or something.

 

[tigs2010]

I think theyre either potatoes or they know theyre about to be cucked by the Swanettes again

 

[sabso]

comedy gold



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[Lsta062]

Think Rhy explained it really well in his 2 chats yesterday in that the club doesn't pay much attention to the media rankings as they don't have anywhere near the amount of information that the club(s) have when it comes to the kids and I'm pretty sure he said they have a bit of a chuckle about how the media reacts to clubs taking players well ahead of where the media 'experts' have them.

Watching that Rhy interview with Michaels, we rated Grlj higher than anyone else so the club didn't care how others would have rated him. The early mail was always right with us taking him.

Yep.

Watching that interview with Michaels and the club, I have a feeling we did not really rate Robey that highly. He went out of his way to name him both interviews without being prompted and said we went back and tracked his games and data and were comfortable with our picks.

Will be interesting to see how to plays out. A kid that physically big that runs such a poor sprint and average 2k time trial, I think there's legit question marks there.

It's absolutely fine for us to have different rankings to other industry experts, whether media experts or other recruiters. In fact, I'd be concerned if we didn't have our own rankings. But what happens if we were wrong? I think the post-premiership honeymoon period is over for our club and the era for accountability is fast approaching.

If we rated Grlj over Robey, then I'm completely fine with them picking Grlj in my view. As a non-expert, I liked Grlj at our pick before the draft myself. Wouldn't have picked him over Robey, but that's OK. I'm not the expert here.

However, I now expect Grlj to have a higher impact at AFL level than the likes of Sharp, Taylor, Robey, and anyone else we skipped on. He should be better than anyone below his pick considering this is by all reports a weak draft. Happy to back our club with their rankings, but that also comes with expectations.

I just don't want to hear excuses in 5 years' time on why "the club did the best they could at the time" and "they couldn't have seen this coming" etc. should our 2025 draft rankings not pass the test of time. We rely on our club's expert observations to rank these players according to talent, so I'd want to see accountability if it doesn't end up in our favour.

We'll have a better understanding of our current decisions when 2028 rolls around. That should be enough time to see how our 12 draftees (possibly 13 with SSP pick) over the last two years develop under Yze. I will back their decisions including extending Yze, but not going to lie, it'll be 10x more disappointed if it turns out they were making the wrong decisions all along.

 

[tiger_tough]

I've never had more confidence in our recruiting team. They're dialled in.