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List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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Watched with my 4yo on weekend. Forgot he got sucked off in first 10 mins.

"Daaaaaddd whys he taking his pants off?"

"Hes just being silly"

"Yeah but why did he say yes?"

Ffs 🤣🤣
Holy ****, I introduced my 6 year old to it on the weekend, he is obsessed now and I am here for it, his mum not so much hahaha
 
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
Just keep him around for comedy value. He’s a 🤡 clown.
 
Only a 6 disposal game here for Neon Leon Kickett, but he still showed the combination of athleticism, skill level, and knack for the spectacular that saw him recently upgraded to the full national combine, indicating significant club interest and a high likelihood that he'll hear his name read out on draft night.

 
It’s not that I believe Robey will be a star, it’s that there is a clear separation of class/potential/tiers between the top group of Duursma, Patterson, Uwland, Robey, CDT and Annable (though I personally think cdt isn’t in this group but going by general power rankings). IMO you don’t trade out of a group of draftees to the next tier when you’re in our position.

The reality is we have zero players on our list who are top 5 players in a finals team like we did with Dusty/Cotch/Rance/Jack which means a player like TT has to be our best player when he’s far more productive as the 5-10 player like Prestia. Lalor/Hotton/Smil look like they could get into that kind of top 5 but none are there and in the meantime we need talent, talent and more talent.
Talent, talent and more talent. Yes and this talent is usually at the top end of the draft. No trading down unless the deal is unbelievable.
 

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Only a 6 disposal game here for Neon Leon Kickett, but he still showed the combination of athleticism, skill level, and knack for the spectacular that saw him recently upgraded to the full national combine, indicating significant club interest and a high likelihood that he'll hear his name read out on draft night.


Thanks for this.

Very different role to the game I watched where he played midfield against Fred & Whan.
 

I can’t decide if we take Cumming or Grlj to go with Robey.

Grlj offers genuine elite pace and natural line breaking ability. Cumming a more natural mid and forward with high level pace.
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I find it funny how clubs say "we will go away after the trade period and finalise our draft order". It makes no sense that they haven't already got a very, very good idea about where and how they rate the current crop of potential draftees. How can you start trading picks around if you don't have any idea of their real value to your club? On top of that, what have they been doing all year if they haven't got their order pretty much sorted?
 
I find it funny how clubs say "we will go away after the trade period and finalise our draft order". It makes no sense that they haven't already got a very, very good idea about where and how they rate the current crop of potential draftees. How can you start trading picks around if you don't have any idea of their real value to your club? On top of that, what have they been doing all year if they haven't got their order pretty much sorted
Of course they already have it pretty much sorted. They aren't going to come out and say who they are after though.
 
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
Maurice was a gun in a different era. that was over 40 years ago when he was winning premierships for the Tigers

the players, methods and rules have changed a fair bit since then


Remember the guy that beat Bontempelli for rising star?? only to be delisted by was it by the Swans another club later on

A 176cm player can play, it depends on what he brings. Someone like Shai B Bolton plays no matter what the height but talent like that is rare and the roles tend to be niche

Richo when he arrived at the AFL would walk into any club such was his talent, we where lucky he was a father son for us

Maurice would still be aa gun, but the game has changed, as have the players, and methods.

for example they are thinking about getting rid of the bounce and throwing it up. If that happens that would hurt the effectiveness of someone like Maurice probably

Even if Armstrong can box box like Maurice they have the concussion rules and things are more sanitised
 
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If, as we all suspect, we rate next years draft a ways ahead of this years, then you’d imagine pick 3 for bombers F1 straight up wouldn’t be far off the mark. But you’d suspect bombers would rate the drafts similarly, and be well aware they’re likely giving up a top 5 pick in a stronger draft. They’d have to really like a specific player to do the trade.
Totally agree.
 
because a future first round pick in a strong draft 2026 helps us get pick 7 and 11 in this draft, assuming you narrative is not bs


if your narrative is bs, then RFC makes out like bandits, possibly

the other thing is we do not know what our future first number in 2026 will be, nor the quality of the draft, bit of speculation there and you have your assumptions


whatever we do we should be focused on teams trying to win premierships in the years ahead. how do we know the one pick in 2026 is absolutely critical???

more likely 3 and 4 this year is more critical. we have a better idea who is available at certain picks this year so getting that right is arguably more critical

some go on about Dougie in next years draft but he is aligned to Port for example so irrelevant for us and how many in 2026 suit the types we need?? Walker is tied to CFC, no chocolates there either


have to factor in FA's and trades in the years ahead to

Magic,

It's absolutely nuts for us to go trading out our F1. We are probably going to end up bottom 4. That's primo draft bounty for next year and shouldn't be squandered. If anything we should be trying to get someone else's F1 and probably the only way we do it is by sending our F2 back the other direction (as part of a pick swap with this year's picks).

It's not like we are throwing around future picks to get (say) Butters from Port, nor do we have bids to match and need 1R picks this year. It's not like we are likely to finish high next year and are prepared to risk a mediocre pick.

It's cool to brainstorm this kind of stuff but it's more realistic to do it with splitting pick number 4.
 

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I can’t decide if we take Cumming or Grlj to go with Robey.

Grlj offers genuine elite pace and natural line breaking ability. Cumming a more natural mid and forward with high level pace.
I'll help you decide
Alphabetical order. 🤪
 
Richmond will end no better than bottom 3/4 in 2026. Our recruiting staff and that of other clubs have declared that next years draft is way better than this year. However the expert that is you wants to trade out of 2026. Well we better get you the job of recruitment mgr at Richmond.

Why has Richmond made it known we are prepared to trade our picks for good offers? Because the club thinks this draft is shit.

Wake up we are not trading out of the 2026 draft. Your proposal(s) are ridiculous. You are seen as comedy relief with your dumb arse ideas.

Also your comment in nearly every post that we need to “focus on winning premierships”, just to strengthen your argument has become nothing more than repetitive rhetoric.

He isn't here to get blow jobs either

"Trading our Future 1st" LOL

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I can’t decide if we take Cumming or Grlj to go with Robey.

Grlj offers genuine elite pace and natural line breaking ability. Cumming a more natural mid and forward with high level pace.

I think Cumming is a better talent and probably in the top 5 kids. I think Grill is probably a top 10 talent. It really depends if the club think Grill can play as an onballer. I don't think we should choose a back flanker with pick 4.

CDT is the one that's really giving me grey hairs. Don't think we really need that kind of player given who we drafted last year. But if his family are "really keen on going to Richmond" then we may have inked him in already. If he's too good to not pick then all well and good (I trust the club to make the right choices), but it kind of means with hindsight we wasted a pick last year.
 

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I think Cumming is a better talent and probably in the top 5 kids. I think Grill is probably a top 10 talent. It really depends if the club think Grill can play as an onballer. I don't think we should choose a back flanker with pick 4.

CDT is the one that's really giving me grey hairs. Don't think we really need that kind of player given who we drafted last year. But if his family are "really keen on going to Richmond" then we may have inked him in already. If he's too good to not pick then all well and good (I trust the club to make the right choices), but it kind of means with hindsight we wasted a pick last year.
I think we're planning ahead to delisting ryan and probably ohb. will make more sense with them off the list.
 
I find it funny how clubs say "we will go away after the trade period and finalise our draft order". It makes no sense that they haven't already got a very, very good idea about where and how they rate the current crop of potential draftees. How can you start trading picks around if you don't have any idea of their real value to your club? On top of that, what have they been doing all year if they haven't got their order pretty much sorted?
Draft orders for clubs change and priority of selected players.
 
I think Cumming is a better talent and probably in the top 5 kids. I think Grill is probably a top 10 talent. It really depends if the club think Grill can play as an onballer. I don't think we should choose a back flanker with pick 4.

CDT is the one that's really giving me grey hairs. Don't think we really need that kind of player given who we drafted last year. But if his family are "really keen on going to Richmond" then we may have inked him in already. If he's too good to not pick then all well and good (I trust the club to make the right choices), but it kind of means with hindsight we wasted a pick last year.
I certainly won't complain if we walk away from the draft with CDT & Cumming
With CDT on top of our 2024 picks, we'll have all our talls set for the next decade and can use future drafts for more mids, hbfs, etc given they develop quicker.
 
I think Cumming is a better talent and probably in the top 5 kids. I think Grill is probably a top 10 talent. It really depends if the club think Grill can play as an onballer. I don't think we should choose a back flanker with pick 4.

CDT is the one that's really giving me grey hairs. Don't think we really need that kind of player given who we drafted last year. But if his family are "really keen on going to Richmond" then we may have inked him in already. If he's too good to not pick then all well and good (I trust the club to make the right choices), but it kind of means with hindsight we wasted a pick last year.
With CDT’s testing at the Combine, I was wondering whether he could play in the backline similar to Harris Andrew’s. We slowly develop him to slot into one of the key defensive roles. There’s questions on whether Gibcus will get back to his best with his myriad of injuries, Millers only signed to 2027 and we’ve always got the option with Balta to play him as a swing man.
 
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