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What Is Your Preferred Combination At Picks 3 & 4?


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Go lie down magic, take one of your little green pills and sleep. Your imagination is running wild. Why would Richmond give up a future round 1 pick in a strong draft for these 2 picks in a shit draft? You are deluded. Are you hearing voices again?
because a future first round pick in a strong draft 2026 helps us get pick 7 and 11 in this draft, assuming you narrative is not bs


if your narrative is bs, then RFC makes out like bandits, possibly

the other thing is we do not know what our future first number in 2026 will be, nor the quality of the draft, bit of speculation there and you have your assumptions


whatever we do we should be focused on teams trying to win premierships in the years ahead. how do we know the one pick in 2026 is absolutely critical???

more likely 3 and 4 this year is more critical. we have a better idea who is available at certain picks this year so getting that right is arguably more critical

some go on about Dougie in next years draft but he is aligned to Port for example so irrelevant for us and how many in 2026 suit the types we need?? Walker is tied to CFC, no chocolates there either


have to factor in FA's and trades in the years ahead to
 
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because a future first round pick in a strong draft 2026 helps us get pick 7 and 11 in this draft, assuming you narrative is not bs


if your narrative is bs, then RFC makes out like bandits, possibly

the other thing is we do not know what our future first number in 2026 will be, nor the quality of the draft, bit of speculation there and you have your assumptions


whatever we do we should be focused on teams trying to win premierships in the years ahead. how do we know the one pick in 2026 is absolutely critical???

more likely 3 and 4 this year is more critical. we have a better idea who is available at certain picks this year so getting that right is arguably more critical

some go on about Dougie in next years draft but he is aligned to Port for example so irrelevant for us and how many in 2026 suit the types we need?? Walker is tied to CFC, no chocolates there either


have to factor in FA's and trades in the years ahead to
Richmond will end no better than bottom 3/4 in 2026. Our recruiting staff and that of other clubs have declared that next years draft is way better than this year. However the expert that is you wants to trade out of 2026. Well we better get you the job of recruitment mgr at Richmond.

Why has Richmond made it known we are prepared to trade our picks for good offers? Because the club thinks this draft is shit.

Wake up we are not trading out of the 2026 draft. Your proposal(s) are ridiculous. You are seen as comedy relief with your dumb arse ideas.

Also your comment in nearly every post that we need to “focus on winning premierships”, just to strengthen your argument has become nothing more than repetitive rhetoric.
 
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All the pro-Robey posters here if Richmond takes CDT at pick 3 and all the talk is we may take Grlj at pick 4.....


Nah I'll.just support the team that picks Robey
 
because a future first round pick in a strong draft 2026 helps us get pick 7 and 11 in this draft, assuming you narrative is not bs


if your narrative is bs, then RFC makes out like bandits, possibly

the other thing is we do not know what our future first number in 2026 will be, nor the quality of the draft, bit of speculation there and you have your assumptions


whatever we do we should be focused on teams trying to win premierships in the years ahead. how do we know the one pick in 2026 is absolutely critical???

more likely 3 and 4 this year is more critical. we have a better idea who is available at certain picks this year so getting that right is arguably more critical

some go on about Dougie in next years draft but he is aligned to Port for example so irrelevant for us and how many in 2026 suit the types we need?? Walker is tied to CFC, no chocolates there either


have to factor in FA's and trades in the years ahead to
We do know:

that Pick 7 and 11 will probably end up being Pick 12 and 17 after academy and FS bids.

that we have Tanner Armstrong (academy) and Daffey (FS) amongst others that we will need points to match bids in 2026.

that trading out any of our picks in 2026 ( the last draft before Tasmania enters) is a poor strategy.

we want more picks in 2026 not less.
 
We do know:

that Pick 7 and 11 will probably end up being Pick 12 and 17 after academy and FS bids.

that we have Tanner Armstrong (academy) and Daffey (FS) amongst others that we will need points to match bids in 2026.

that trading out any of our picks in 2026 ( the last draft before Tasmania enters) is a poor strategy.

we want more picks in 2026 not less.
we are not here to collect academy picks or father sons for the hell of it.

it is a nice thing but the first thing is to try and win premierships.

in 2025 picks 3 and 4 include Larke Medalists and other competitive players all australians for the champs etc...


how many Norm Smiths are 176cm??? Armstrong may be a good afl player, it is against the odds he will be a superstar but you never know.if you want to have a whinge about height one of the reasons Robey was ignored was probably his height before he had his growth spurt in his youth

Daffy never won a premiership with us, his son may not necessarily be good enough or command a high pick anyway

not every father son gets picked up by clubs nor do academies, they have to warrant the need to be picked to help us win premierships. Just because they are candidates does not mean they necessarily will get picked.

If Dusty had a son, well the salivating could be warranted but we shall see

for us we have had Richo and the Bowdens but we had a few others where it did not quite work out. This includes sons of premiership players for us and guns, Richo was an athletic freak who picked himself and Joel I think was fairly well credentialed in his youth. We did not even select Patrick in the draft, he went to the Bulldogs first.

I assume academies and fahersons are two way support mechanisms the kids get support to but there are no guarantees I would have thought, the youngsters have to earn their success on the footy field. I do not think we have a Sam Darcy coming through right at the moment or Nick Daicos do we???

Will Ashcrofts father was a pretty good player, 300 plus games, three premierships in a super side, and Will is a hell of a kick amongst other attributes and highly rated in his youth. Is Will better than his father? probably. is his brother better than his father?? we will have to see but he is a premiership player and a good player now and was rated highly in his youth
 
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This is a joke right?

There is no world in which Essendon do this.

Seriously deluded stuff.
Literally.

Why don't we just trade out future future 4th rounder for Essendon's pick 5 and 6, + F1 + FF1.

Seriously. You'd think the top 4 are Ablett, Judd, Buddy and Dusty followed by absolute duds to even fathom such a shambolic idea.
 
we are not here to collect academy picks or father sons for the hell of it.

it is a nice thing but the first thing is to try and win premierships.

in 2025 picks 3 and 4 include Larke Medalists and other competitive players all australians for the champs etc...


how many Norm Smiths are 176cm??? Armstrong may be a good afl player, it is against the odds he will be a superstar but you never know.

Daffy never won a premiership with us, his son may not necessarily be good enough or command a high pick anyway

not every father son gets picked up by clubs nor do academies, they have to warrant the need to be picked to help us win premierships. Just because they are candidates does not mean they necessarily will get picked.

If Dusty had a son, well the salivating could be warranted but we shall see

for us we have had Richo and the Bowdens but we had a few others where it did not quite work out. This includes sons of premiership players for us and guns, Richo was an athletic freak who picked himself and Joel I think was fairly well credentialed in his youth. We did not even select Patrick in the draft, he went to the Bulldogs first.

I assume academies and fahersons are two way support mechanisms the kids get support to but there are no guarantees I would have thought, the youngsters have to earn their success on the footy field. I do not think we have a Sam Darcy coming through right at the moment or Nick Daicos do we???

Will Ashcrofts father was a pretty good player, 300 plus games, three premierships in a super side, and Will is a hell of a kick amongst other attributes and highly rated in his youth
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
 
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
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How many spots do we actually have for new players? How many on rookie list?
32 senior list signed includes Seth uppgrade
2 unsigned in Dow & Sonsie
3 cat A rookies
1 cat B rookies.

Based on that we have up to 6 spots for senior list, most likely add 3 at draft and keep a couple open for summer try outs. We will have up to 3 rookie spots, depending on how many we add to the senior list. Also have 1 Cat B rookie spot open.
 
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
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I can’t decide if we take Cumming or Grlj to go with Robey.

Grlj offers genuine elite pace and natural line breaking ability. Cumming a more natural mid and forward with high level pace.
 
we are not here to collect academy picks or father sons for the hell of it.

it is a nice thing but the first thing is to try and win premierships.

in 2025 picks 3 and 4 include Larke Medalists and other competitive players all australians for the champs etc...


how many Norm Smiths are 176cm??? Armstrong may be a good afl player, it is against the odds he will be a superstar but you never know.if you want to have a whinge about height one of the reasons Robey was ignored was probably his height before he had his growth spurt in his youth

Daffy never won a premiership with us, his son may not necessarily be good enough or command a high pick anyway

not every father son gets picked up by clubs nor do academies, they have to warrant the need to be picked to help us win premierships. Just because they are candidates does not mean they necessarily will get picked.

If Dusty had a son, well the salivating could be warranted but we shall see

for us we have had Richo and the Bowdens but we had a few others where it did not quite work out. This includes sons of premiership players for us and guns, Richo was an athletic freak who picked himself and Joel I think was fairly well credentialed in his youth. We did not even select Patrick in the draft, he went to the Bulldogs first.

I assume academies and fahersons are two way support mechanisms the kids get support to but there are no guarantees I would have thought, the youngsters have to earn their success on the footy field. I do not think we have a Sam Darcy coming through right at the moment or Nick Daicos do we???

Will Ashcrofts father was a pretty good player, 300 plus games, three premierships in a super side, and Will is a hell of a kick amongst other attributes and highly rated in his youth. Is Will better than his father? probably. is his brother better than his father?? we will have to see but he is a premiership player and a good player now and was rated highly in his youth
we aren't winning a premiership without rebuilding the list first. You need quality players to do that and you need high draft picks in good drafts to do that. Trading a likely top 5 pick out of a stronger draft into 2 x picks that will end up 10+ is not the way to do it. I'd trade pick 4 for those 2 but not a F1
 
Maurice Rioli was 176cm and a Norm Smith winner .... sorry for putting facts in your story.

Tanner Armstrong was Under 16 National Carnival Vic Country coaches MVP plus All Australian honors in 2024... sorry more facts

He also collected 25 disposals and 7 clearances in the Futures game on Grand Final day this year.

Definitely no guarantee any player we would take with the picks 7 (12) and 11 (17), you want to trade for, will be better than Tanner let alone better than the player available with the Top 5 pick in next year's draft that you want to trade away

Now I am going to put you on ignore before you respond saying that our F1 next year won't be in the Top5. That is what North thought when they traded us Pick 3 (4).

Can someone let me know how I put Mr Magic on Ignore?
Don't do it - it's so much entertainment.
 

I can’t decide if we take Cumming or Grlj to go with Robey.

Grlj offers genuine elite pace and natural line breaking ability. Cumming a more natural mid and forward with high level pace.
Maybe it should be Cumming and Grjl and we could trade a pick to Essendon to draft Robey .... but you want to believe Robey will be a star
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December 14th, 2013 12:41 am


Thanks so much for posting this ... a really interesting read
 
Maybe it should be Cumming and Grjl and we could trade a pick to Essendon to draft Robey .... but you want to believe Robey will be a star

Thanks so much for posting this ... a really interesting read

It’s not that I believe Robey will be a star, it’s that there is a clear separation of class/potential/tiers between the top group of Duursma, Patterson, Uwland, Robey, CDT and Annable (though I personally think cdt isn’t in this group but going by general power rankings). IMO you don’t trade out of a group of draftees to the next tier when you’re in our position.

The reality is we have zero players on our list who are top 5 players in a finals team like we did with Dusty/Cotch/Rance/Jack which means a player like TT has to be our best player when he’s far more productive as the 5-10 player like Prestia. Lalor/Hotton/Smil look like they could get into that kind of top 5 but none are there and in the meantime we need talent, talent and more talent.
 
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