List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[Masquerade]

I’m actually interested in Windy’s contract too tbh. It gets much less attention due to Nas’ contract but what’s happening there?

A few weeks ago his manager was in Gettable saying Marcus wanted to stay at the Saints, and the next week it was reported we offered him a 2 year deal. Yet we’ve announced Hall and Boxshall but still no Windy deal.

Hopefully he stays.

must say I’m very thankful Mitch Owens signed with no fuss earlier in the year. Good on him ahah

 

[Joffaboy]

I’m really good friends with the Wanganeens as well as the Mileras. Out of respect for their privacy I refuse to ask them for any inside information.

I'm best mates with NAZ but out of respect I won't divulge what his decision is

 

[_Maximus_12]

Can we please stop suggesting that Butters would be involved in a hypothetical trade for Nas

Zak Butters does not want to play for St Kilda

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

 

[Tom12]

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

We'd need a player in this deal too. Welcome to St Kilda Miles Bergman.

 

[marcus1232]

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

except that Hawthorn dont have there 25 first its with WC

irrespective horrible deal
Carltons pick likely to be at 14-15

 

[Joffaboy]

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

Plus some b grade gimp or its no deal

 

[Grav]

I'm best mates with NAZ but out of respect I won't divulge what his decision is

Oh that’s just NASty!

 

[marcus1232]

I just cant fathom a deal in my brain unless Richmond or west coast are involved

 

[Diehard Saint]

I've just about resigned myself (npi) to think that we won't hear anything until the season is over.

Still reckon he stays though.

By that time we’ll all be in straitjackets and won’t even remember who he is

 

[Leap of Faith]

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

Nope. Not even close

 

[StFly]

Anyone else feeling a bit ceebs and at the point where they’re not fussed? Love to keep him but the longer is drags on I just don’t see him signing. Rather just know either way and be done with it

I'm to the letter of law, Oct it is, everything else can GAGF.

You can leak, you can cry wolf, you can do a pretty dance or flash your bits all over the place and it'll mean SFA cause nothings signed.

I’m actually interested in Windy’s contract too tbh. It gets much less attention due to Nas’ contract but what’s happening there?

A few weeks ago his manager was in Gettable saying Marcus wanted to stay at the Saints, and the next week it was reported we offered him a 2 year deal. Yet we’ve announced Hall and Boxshall but still no Windy deal.

Hopefully he stays.

must say I’m very thankful Mitch Owens signed with no fuss earlier in the year. Good on him ahah

Just announcement wise, they get staggered as you don't want to go social with "these 6 players all signed, yay" type flooding of importance, so you might do 2-3 a day and have gaps there so people can digest if it's a good or bad thing, the only real hard and fast is at trade and draft time, but in season, dogs breakfast and stagger it.

 

[sufficientintent]

He needs to be involved going to a third team to facilitate the draft picks.

Deal does not happen without it, with Port at least.

Butters to Hawks
NWM to Port
3 first rounders to St Kilda - hawks 2025 1st, Carlton’s 1st (via hawthorn), Ports 2026 first

The posts I was referring to were more us asking directly for Butters.

In any case, I can't see Port going and trading Butters to get the picks for Nas unless Butters says he wants out. Reality is that if it gets to the 11th hour of the trade period and all Port have is their 2026 and 2027 firsts, that is what SOS will have to negotiate with, and that's what we'll get.

Is that reasonable compensation? Absolutely not. Can we do anything about it? Not really

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Is anyone else watching Chit on YouTube???? ****ing hilarious.
Anyhow back to it.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Sign up Naz and Windy and we look at 70k next year

No Nas and that number goes backwards.

Hope gets extinguished

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Gerald Healy was right

 

[marcus1232]

Strap yourselves in lads and ladettes its gonna be a wild ride to the draft I think

 

[SaintersUnite]

Is anyone else watching Chit on YouTube???? ****ing hilarious.
Anyhow back to it.

Is there a black purse in here?

 

[The Boar]

Gerald Healy was right

He'd still be wrong. Sinn is shite and NAS is worth a King's ransom. You'd still take NAS even if he did leave.

 

[stfan]

This is from the Port Board:

"FWIW - Kym Dillon just reported his ITK source on Kymbo and the Rooch (53mins in). His ITK believes Crows think they
will get NAS or if they don't get that deal done then they will go for Dyson Sharp. Rooch has an ITK saying NAS leaving
Saints is looking more likely.

Not saying their mail is right but its on topic."

Ignoring Nas, Dyson Sharp would be well gone by the Crows pick. They. would have to massively trade up the order.

 

[stfan]

According to this thread Nas must speak to dozens of people every day about his plans.

Well if he is, he is taking the piss as it is different story each time!

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

The posts I was referring to were more us asking directly for Butters.

If it does go down that path it will have to involve a quality player coming to St Kilda.
If not Butters then Port are going to have to get another club involved.

A player and first round picks are would be the bottom end.

Port lowballing and screwing over another club will hurt them in the long term.
There will be a point where Port will need St Kildas assistance.

 

[SainterinSydney]

We'd need a player in this deal too. Welcome to St Kilda Miles Bergman.

I wouldn't mind Whitlock for some KPF depth

 

[thekizzler]

Gerald Healy was right

I know you are joking but people still believe this haha.

If we drafted Josh Sinn, we would be worse off. He is sh*t.

And even if we get screwed for Nasiah, we will get more than what he cost at the draft,

 

[Remboy]

Pls sign Windy. Would be so St Kilda if we lost both 22under22 players at the end of this year.

One of the problems with NAS not saying what he's doing us that we don't know how much we can offer everyone else. Hence deals like Windy's get held up.

 

[Tom12]

The posts I was referring to were more us asking directly for Butters.

In any case, I can't see Port going and trading Butters to get the picks for Nas unless Butters says he wants out. Reality is that if it gets to the 11th hour of the trade period and all Port have is their 2026 and 2027 firsts, that is what SOS will have to negotiate with, and that's what we'll get.

Is that reasonable compensation? Absolutely not. Can we do anything about it? Not really

Then the trade shouldn't get done, there's no way we can allow ourselves to take unders. I'm sorry - it's on Port to maneuver around and come up with value.