List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Wickzki]

Thinking deeper on Raz and Cincm it's these types that almost always get cut first when a team no longer believes they're in a window.

Older players - 29 and 28 respectively - who are fringe players at best and who lack the upside of younger prospects who need game time in order to progress.

This is an indicator to me that were going into a longer term reset regardless of whether or not we move on any of our stars.

I'm still disappointed that Lemmey didn't earn an opportunity. I don't watch the VFL nearly as closely as others do but was he really that far back from earning s chance when our season was over so esrly? Or did they stamp his papers ss early as I thought they may have?

Either way we're probably 2 young developing talls short at the very least

 

[Canada]

Sorry to intrude..but Lemmey sacking means there is a zero chance Curnow gets traded. Absolutely zero.
Harry is an ongoing slight risk (mental battles) so no way you would have sacked Lemmey if there was even a 1% chance of CC leaving.
Just an opinion.
Im a big Charlie fan.
Peace.

 

[Wickzki]

Sorry to intrude..but Lemmey sacking means there is a zero chance Curnow gets traded. Absolutely zero.
Harry is an ongoing slight risk (mental battles) so no way you would have sacked Lemmey if there was even a 1% chance of CC leaving.
Just an opinion.
Im a big Charlie fan.
Peace.

Copium.

If the club didn't see Lemmey as an AFL key forward then it doesn't factor into their McKay-Curnow considerations whatsoever.

It means we'll consider key forward options.

Maybe we get McDonald as part of the Swans trade.

 

[Canada]

Copium.

If the club didn't see Lemmey as an AFL key forward then it doesn't factor into their McKay-Curnow considerations whatsoever.

It means we'll consider key forward options.

Maybe we get McDonald as part of the Swans trade.

Hardly copium..
CC will now stay.

 

[Crippa#9]

I want Fogarty gone as he has been gifted games for a long time now. Just so we dont say oh we have nothing else so we play him. Durdin on thin ice too. He has skills but doesnt do enough. But i would keep him for one more year but put him on notice.

Having Fogarty and Boyd contracted for another year isn't one of Nick Austin's finest moments.

Neither would get a game at any other AFL club. None. How Fogarty continued to be named every week was staggering.

He averaged 11 disposals, 3 tackles & 0.6 goals a game in 2024 as a small forward.
This year? Those stats are almost identical.

Bizarre.

 

[2blue4u]

At this stage it's a rebuild right?

 

[LanceRomance]

I dare say this could be our biggest year of delistings since 2018 in to 2019, which had 14 list changes.

 

[JustaBattler]

At this stage it's a rebuild right?

Lists have to be changed every year because players are getting older and better options become available in younger player or younger players just aren't going to make it...if a CLub does nothing - that is when you should be worried.

 

[branedotorg]

At this stage it's a rebuild right?

Started last off season imo

 

[thefrog]

Delist Lemmey and Cincotta?

Looks like I was spot on. Love Cincotta but writing was on the wall sadly

 

[Bluebag13]

At this stage it's a rebuild right?

Depends on your definition of a rebuild

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Silvagni Fantasia Cincotta

Lot of pressure on the Camporeale boys now.

 

[JustaBattler]

Silvagni Fantasia Cincotta

Lot of pressure on the Camporeale boys now.

There should be a lot of "pressure" on every player in the Club at all times.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

There should be a lot of "pressure" on every player in the Club at all times.

I think you may be missing the racially charged bit of my post

 

[carlton_99]

At this stage it's a rebuild right?

Not trying to be fancy or anything but it's more a reset than a rebuild. A full rebuild is what we embarked on under Bolton, what North/West Coast have tried to do and also Richmond last year. Even if Curnow does move on I don't think it rises to that level as long as we can keep our other elite senior players (Weitering/McKay/Walsh/Cripps) and don't get fleeced in any Charlie deal.

From last year it was clear that Austin took a more long-term view on things. Smith over Houston being a main part of that but also the moving on of experienced injury prone depth options for youth.

We have quite a bit of quality youth on the list so I don't think we need to go on a Richmond style rebuild to "bounce back". There are some young players ready to take over the roles of declining older players. We just need to fill some gaps across the list especially around speed and footskills and once again hope we can keep our good players on the park.

 

[COACH25]

Liam Reidy wouldn’t be anywhere near our top 35 players
Khamis is probably 22-25 which isn’t saying much.
I want depth players from other clubs but depth players that come straight into our 23 every week not if we have a injury crisis
Don’t waste money on these players. There are better options out there that are specific for a role in the team

 

[NavyBlueHeaven]

Which players on the list are currently not contracted?

 

[Stamos]

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

www.theage.com.au

 

[carlton_99]

Liam Reidy wouldn’t be anywhere near our top 35 players
Khamis is probably 22-25 which isn’t saying much.
I want depth players from other clubs but depth players that come straight into our 23 every week not if we have a injury crisis
Don’t waste money on these players. There are better options out there

Khamis has played 31 games for the Dogs over the last two years and has been good depth for them. So don't see why he wouldn't be for us in a couple of roles. Reidy would be a 2nd or even 3rd ruck likely for us unless he really impresses. Not supposed to be game changing moves.

 

[Stamos]

Which players on the list are currently not contracted?

Resource - Carlton Football Club Team List and Contract Status

Note: This thread is for official announcements only. Please direct all discussion to the relevant player threads - click on the player name below to be redirected! Number Name Contract Expiry Source 2024 List Notes 1 2 Lachlan Cowan 2028 Here Senior 3 Jesse Motlop 2025...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[CJMB]

Silvagni Fantasia Cincotta

Lot of pressure on the Camporeale boys now.

Why? A mid and a wing, as opposed to a tall defender, a small fwd and a tagger.

Also consider worth considering the last two years we got 55 out of a possible 141 games from those 3…

Edit: missed the Italian comment at first…

 

[T2B_]

Silvagni Fantasia Cincotta

Lot of pressure on the Camporeale boys now.

Yep otherwise they'll also end up pasta players of the club.

 

[Wickzki]

Factoring in TDK, Silvagni and now Lemmey.

Carlton at the AFL National Draft since Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

2013 AFL National Draft.

Draft Year	Currently on List	Games	No longer at Carlton	Games
2013	Patrick Cripps	230	Cameron Giles Nick Holman	0 9
2014	-		Blaine Boekhorst Dillon Viojo-Rainbow Clem Smith Clem Smith Age 29 Ht 178cm Wt 78kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 7.9 2star K 3.4 1star HB 4.4 3star M 1.6 2star T 1.3 3star MG 112.7 2star No current season stats available D 9.0 3star K 4.2 2star HB 4.8 4star M 1.8 2star T 1.2 3star MG 130.0 3star Jayden Foster	25 0 7 0
2015	Jacob Weitering Harry McKay 10 Harry Mckay Age 27 Ht 200cm Wt 106kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 9.9 3star K 7.5 3star HB 2.4 2star M 5.5 5star T 1.6 4star G 1.4 5star D 6.6 1star K 4.6 2star HB 2.0 1star M 3.6 4star T 1.4 2star G 1.4 5star D 8.8 3star K 6.8 3star HB 2.0 2star M 4.4 4star T 0.8 3star G 2.0 5star Charlie Curnow 30 Charlie Curnow Age 28 Ht 194cm Wt 94kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.3 3star K 9.7 4star HB 3.6 3star M 5.3 5star T 2.2 4star G 1.3 5star No current season stats available D 10.8 3star K 6.4 3star HB 4.4 4star M 3.2 4star T 1.6 4star G 0.8 4star	204 140 149	David Cuningham Jack Silvagni 1 Jack Silvagni Age 27 Ht 194cm Wt 92kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 11.0 3star K 7.1 3star HB 3.8 3star M 3.8 4star T 2.9 4star MG 176.9 3star D 5.3 1star K 4.0 1star HB 1.3 1star M 1.7 2star T 0.7 1star MG 91.0 2star D 9.2 3star K 6.2 3star HB 3.0 3star M 3.4 4star T 2.8 5star MG 131.4 3star	58 128
2016	-		Sam Petrevski-Seton Zac Fisher 16 Zac Fisher Age 27 Ht 175cm Wt 76kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.2 4star K 8.3 3star HB 7.9 5star M 1.8 2star T 3.0 5star MG 384.0 5star D 17.0 4star K 10.0 4star HB 7.0 4star M 3.0 3star T 0.0 1star MG 384.0 5star D 12.2 3star K 6.8 3star HB 5.4 4star M 1.2 2star T 3.0 5star Harrison Macreadie 26 Harrison Macreadie Age 27 Ht 198cm Wt 92kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 6.9 2star K 4.1 2star HB 2.8 2star M 1.9 2star T 2.2 4star MG 76.3 1star No current season stats available D 7.6 2star K 4.2 2star HB 3.4 3star M 2.6 3star T 3.0 5star MG 86.6 2star Cam Polson Tom Williamson 31 Tom Williamson Age 26 Ht 190cm Wt 86kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 12.1 3star K 7.5 3star HB 4.5 3star M 3.4 3star T 2.2 4star MG 173.8 3star No current season stats available D 15.0 4star K 9.0 4star HB 6.0 4star M 3.2 4star T 2.8 5star MG 229.8 4star Pat Kerr Pat Kerr Age 27 Ht 197cm Wt 97kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 9.3 2star K 7.0 3star HB 2.3 2star M 4.3 4star T 0.8 3star G 0.5 3star No current season stats available D 9.3 3star K 7.0 3star HB 2.3 3star M 4.3 4star T 0.8 3star G 0.5 3star	94 107 9 19 44 4
2017	-		Paddy Dow Lochie O'Brien 4 Lochie O'brien Age 26 Ht 185cm Wt 84kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 13.2 3star K 9.3 4star HB 3.9 3star M 4.5 4star T 1.3 3star CL 0.7 3star No current season stats available D 13.0 4star K 9.8 4star HB 3.2 3star M 5.2 5star T 1.4 4star CL 1.0 3star Tom De Koning 12 Tom De Koning Age 26 Ht 201cm Wt 102kg Pos. Ruck Career Season Last 5 D 8.0 2star K 3.0 1star HB 5.0 4star CL 0.5 2star HO 1.5 4star No current season stats available D 8.0 2star K 3.0 1star HB 5.0 4star CL 0.5 3star HO 1.5 5star Angus Schumacher 48 Angus Schumacher Age 26 Ht 190cm Wt 84kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 13.0 3star K 10.0 4star HB 3.0 3star M 4.0 4star T 0.0 1star MG 226.0 3star No current season stats available D 13.0 4star K 10.0 4star HB 3.0 3star M 4.0 4star T 0.0 1star MG 226.0 4star Jarrod Garlett Jarrod Garlett Age 29 Ht 180cm Wt 74kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 10.7 3star K 6.8 3star HB 3.9 3star M 2.6 3star T 3.2 5star G 0.5 3star No current season stats available D 7.4 2star K 4.6 2star HB 2.8 3star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star G 0.4 3star	73 66 100 1 13
2018	Sam Walsh	133	Liam Stocker Finbar O'Dwyer Ben Silvagni	28 0 0
2019	Brodie Kemp	49	Sam Philp Sam Ramsay	2 0
2020	Corey Durdin	64	Jack Carroll	21
2021	Jesse Motlop	63
2022	Ollie Hollands Lachie Cowan Jaxon Binns	65 38 8	Harry Lemmey	0
2023	Ashton Moir Billy Wilson	11 4
2024	Jagga Smith Harry O'Farrell Ben Camporeale Lucas Camporeale	0 6 0 3
TOTAL	17 players	1167 games (68.6)	26 players	808 games (31.07)
Removing Too Early (last 3 drafts)	8 players	1031 games (128.9)	25 players	808 games (32.32)

 

[DollarsandSense]

Without knowing the in's and out's of contract status. I'm very surprised that the following have survived.
Fog - Durdin - Binns - Acers - Monahan - Duffy

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

www.theage.com.au

I’ll be shocked if we don’t trade Charlie tbh