List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

If it’s Sydney for Curnow, I’d much rather see Dattoli included in the deal than Florent.
Last thing we need is another plodder on a 4 year contract …

Not a clue who Datolli is or what he even looks like, but Florent is far from a plodder. Instantly improves the quality of our 22.

 

[Red Bull]

Not a clue who Datolli is or what he even looks like, but Florent is far from a plodder. Instantly improves the quality of our 22.

Dattoli ticks just about every box for Carlton.

With Cripps Hewett Cerra Lord Camporeale etc as one paced mids, the last thing we need is another 27yo of the same variety on a 4 year contract that might be borderline best 22 at a pinch.

Checkout Dattoli … you might be pleasantly surprised at what he offers

 

[Shambolic]

I honestly think Motlop can continue to lift and add more value to the game for us; he just needs to be coached for first impulse and to throw the ball on the boot in contest. Quick 30m kicks in to space when under pressure a la Wayne Campbell can create panic pressure like the good teams do.

 

[Benaly28]

At this point the draft is underrated.

There is talent there.

But probably more boom bust prospects then usual and fewer rolled gold at the top

Next years is off the charts.

A lot of people criticised Austin for trading our first pick this year and to get Jagga.When you look at it now dosent seem like a bad move at all,we need future firsts for Cody which is imperative and unfortunately looks like the only way to get that is trading Charlie.

 

[Shambolic]

Next years is off the charts.

A lot of people criticised Austin for trading our first pick this year and to get Jagga.When you look at it now dosent seem like a bad move at all,we need future firsts for Cody which is imperative and unfortunately looks like the only way to get that is trading Charlie.

I really liked the Jagga move. 4-5-6 key core brilliant players and a great support cast including a couple of bloody Lesters up the back is what we need. So trading up for key is great.

Unfortunately our '25 was compromised by a range of factors. But '26 will have Jagga, Newman, Walsh, Kemp + trades in. We did NOT rely on Charlie at any time n 25 and others were a bit limp, lbh. So I have to be hopeful.

 

[Penetrator]

Charlie is seeking a trade and so best for both parties to move on and get in players
who want to play with all there heart for the mighty blues. We are not winning the flag in the next 2 years with Charlie and if anything the Grand final showed that power forwards are not a key part for success .

I would take the trade of Sydneys 1st , F1 and Haywood for Charlie and start the reset.
Trade TDK compo , Sydneys First our F2 to West Coast for there F1 and Chesser.
We would need some other parts to get Dean but should be no issue this year with the old format still in place.

West Coasts F1 would cover the pick for Cody and we would then still have 2 picks in next years first round draft which has some spectacular types available

We would also have plenty of cap space to go for a free agent(s) . Butters being the dream result.

2027
Backs - Charleston , Weiters , Dean , O’Farell , Wilson , Cowan , Carroll , Ollie
Mids/Wing - Butters , Jagga , Cody , Walsh , Lord , Cerra , Cripps , Hewett , Chesser , Cottrell , Ison , Ben C , Luke C
Fwds - Haywood , Moir , Khamis , Harry , Kemp , Hok , FYoung , Evans , Motlop , Zac
Rucks - ???

Add in 2 young guns from next year’s draft and a few other pieces and that is a very good squad of players going forward especially the onball brigade.

 

[carlton_99]

Dattoli ticks just about every box for Carlton.

With Cripps Hewett Cerra Lord Camporeale etc as one paced mids, the last thing we need is another 27yo of the same variety on a 4 year contract that might be borderline best 22 at a pinch.

Checkout Dattoli … you might be pleasantly surprised at what he offers

Florent isn't a midfielder. He plays off HB and can push onto a wing. I don't see the similarities to the names you listed

 

[katmanblue]

Florent isn't a midfielder. He plays off HB and can push onto a wing. I don't see the similarities to the names you listed

Florent is Ollie, just 4 years older.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Dattoli ticks just about every box for Carlton.

With Cripps Hewett Cerra Lord Camporeale etc as one paced mids, the last thing we need is another 27yo of the same variety on a 4 year contract that might be borderline best 22 at a pinch.

Checkout Dattoli … you might be pleasantly surprised at what he offers

What boxes are these that Dattoli fills?

Florent the same variety as our mids despite being a running half back?

Wtf lmao?

 

[carlton_99]

Florent is Ollie, just 4 years older.

There are some similarities however I think Florent is the better kick right now. I also think Hollands is more suited to a wing so both can play in the same team

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So Hayward Florent and Dattoli, plus the picks?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Florent is Ollie, just 4 years older.

Dattoli is a nuggety type along the lines of Lachie Fogarty with better kicking. No blistering speed, by no means an elite kick and his overhead game is overblown in that article at best. Don't even recall if I ever saw him do anything aerially beyond taking some stand still marks inside 50 above his head.

He was a good decision maker with elite hands in close but athletically he really didn't provide any point of difference to his team other than being tough over the ball.

If those are the traits we are desperately in need for then we'd be better off finding someone who actually provides them. Dattoli will likely end up playing as an inside mid in time just like he did juniors.

And while I am a fan Florent, the point still remains... He has no correlation to our inside mids. He doesn't play a role anything similar to them and his traits as an athlete are entirely different.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Next years is off the charts.

A lot of people criticised Austin for trading our first pick this year and to get Jagga.When you look at it now dosent seem like a bad move at all,we need future firsts for Cody which is imperative and unfortunately looks like the only way to get that is trading Charlie.

Not the only way...

2017 1st + 2026 3rd >> * for 2026 1st

Walsh FA -> not ideal but if he wants to leave, he'll leave.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So Hayward Florent and Dattoli, plus the picks?

Thats not going to happen and not should we want it. Would take Campbell or McInerney ahead of any of them. Plus the picks.

 

[Red Bull]

Dattoli is a nuggety type along the lines of Lachie Fogarty with better kicking. No blistering speed, by no means an elite kick and his overhead game is overblown in that article at best. Don't even recall if I ever saw him do anything aerially beyond taking some stand still marks inside 50 above his head.

He was a good decision maker with elite hands in close but athletically he really didn't provide any point of difference to his team other than being tough over the ball.

If those are the traits we are desperately in need for then we'd be better off finding someone who actually provides them. Dattoli will likely end up playing as an inside mid in time just like he did juniors.

And while I am a fan Florent, the point still remains... He has no correlation to our inside mids. He doesn't play a role anything similar to them and his traits as an athlete are entirely different.

You’re entitled to your point of view.
But forgive me if I side with Kinnear Beatson and Sydney in their assessment of Dattoli on this one …

 

[sweethoney]

Is this correct? I thought you had to spend 95% of your cap minimum.
Jon Ralph saying saints have only paid 80% the last couple of seasons

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You’re entitled to your point of view.
But forgive me if I side with Kinnear Beatson and Sydney in their assessment of Dattoli on this one …

Kinnear Beatson's eye for talent has no bearing on what a player is actually like as a player.

Dattoli is a good young talent, but his strengths are around working in congestion and winning the ball. He's not going to walk into the Carlton side and fix our lack of pace or x-factor on the outside as he's simply not that kind of player.

I compared him to Lachie Neale in his draft year so by no means do I think he's a slouch.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Is this correct? I thought you had to spend 95% of your cap minimum.
Jon Ralph saying saints have only paid 80% the last couple of seasons View attachment 2440370

Yep. Everyone is as confused as each other with that quote from Ralphy.

Basically been getting fed crap by the Saints for the last two months so can't tell if it's a typo or an actual scandal

 

[The Bighouse]

Is this correct? I thought you had to spend 95% of your cap minimum.
Jon Ralph saying saints have only paid 80% the last couple of seasons View attachment 2440370

Yeah, had queries on that (thought 92.5% was the MIN)

 

[carlton_99]

Is this correct? I thought you had to spend 95% of your cap minimum.
Jon Ralph saying saints have only paid 80% the last couple of seasons View attachment 2440370

Yep I think Ralph (unsurprisingly) has that very wrong. Only thing I could maybe think is they have been only using the 95% for multiple years. But I didn't think that it accumulated like that...

Thought it was you had to underspend for 2 years for you to be able to "exceed" the salary in the next year. If you don't you lose that saved money.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

From 'Knightmare'

 

[Lacharty Fog]

Kinnear Beatson's eye for talent has no bearing on what a player is actually like as a player.

Dattoli is a good young talent, but his strengths are around working in congestion and winning the ball. He's not going to walk into the Carlton side and fix our lack of pace or x-factor on the outside as he's simply not that kind of player.

I compared him to Lachie Neale in his draft year so by no means do I think he's a slouch.

Staying on the option of a former Northern lads would Green be a better option to ask for than Dattoli? Lose TDK, get Green?
Another former Northern player is McInerney, seems like he would be a good reliable and flexible option to complement our on-ballers or flanks. Would we be bold enough to ask for Hayward + McInerney + F1 for CC + F3?

 

[The Bighouse]

From 'Knightmare'

Would be happy to be having a look at Fahey. We’re looking for those traits and he’s available without cost.

 

[jaggabagga]

Hayward + McInerney + F1 for CC + F3?

You think this is asking too much lol. 2 bit part players and 1st.

 

[tarczonandjane]

All I know is there were some good sources in here last year who were linking us to Datolli before we traded up. There were posters who weren’t happy with the links.

Of course, the same sources were also linking us with Murphy Reid. Several posters were underwhelmed by that association too.