List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[jaggabagga]

Every single free agency compensation pick ever handed out has fit under the parameters I've described to you. It's incredibly simple and I've even provided you with the full list to prove that what I'm saying is factual.

I've asked you for an example of what you've described and you can't even provide one because it doesn't exist.

A 1.8 million free agent hasn't existed before, this isn't case law, the AFL can give whatever pick they choose to, they could say for example with the net loss of TDK and Silvagni say O.K we will give you pick 10 and 11 to satisfy us. That's how the AFL works.

 

[Blue and Silver]

A 1.8 million free agent hasn't existed before, this isn't case law, the AFL can give whatever pick they choose to, they could say for example with the net loss of TDK and Silvagni say O.K we will give you pick 10 and 11 to satisfy us. That's how the AFL works.

There are rules.

This has been the way it has been for like a decade.

You are just making up a fantasy world where we can get a different outcome by demanding it.

 

[jaggabagga]

There are rules.

This has been the way it has been for like a decade.

You are just making up a fantasy world where we can get a different outcome by demanding it.

Yeah no I don't think so, completely buckbroken.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Go Hard Blues

 

[Bletch]

Yeah no I don't think so, completely buckbroken.

Here ya go...

Free Agency - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

www.afl.com.au

Draft picks will be allocated to one of five places:

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

This page also describes the magic formula (in as much detail as we're allowed to know).

 

[The_BigFella]

With all the salary cap space we’ve got, I thought there’d be more noise about Walsh locking in a new deal. Especially after all his talk in the media about “no BS.” Now would be the perfect time to call it out and get this sorted before the season starts. The last thing we need is it dragging on and becoming a distraction. Unless of course that talk was just BS, in which case he’s no better than the others who’ve left or are looking to leave.

 

[4thchicken]

It is the highest pick (Band 1) possible under the current compensation pick rules.

The only thing we could possibly ask for is an upgrade on the Jack Silvagni pick as the wording in the rules does suggest a "net lose" ie. total ins and outs. But I don't think that will happen.

IMO that is people misreading the intent of the rule.

Net loss = player out + player in = zero compo (Betts/thomas)

You don’t take into account average loss of multiple players to improve compo. Similar if you lost 2 players that would individually net band 1 and band 4 compo, you won’t end up with 2x band 2/3 compo

 

[DangerousD]

There is no fair value in paying 2 x high 1st rounders for a draftee that is unproven at AFL level.

Top echelon don’t get that in trades.

Just make it a match and move along. If the club gets an advantage, so be it, swings & roundabouts and luck of the draw.

We paid 2 first rounders, a second rounder and Owies for Smith

 

[DangerousD]

No future In that. Should be pushing for a mid first for the JSOS compo. Given the offer seems to match Draper and Allen’s offer.

Mid first? What do you mean? There’s no such thing

 

[DangerousD]

Pretty sure that's not true. Band 1 isn't necessarily tied to where you finish, it can be wherever they deem the value to be. Including 2 picks

This is not true

 

[DangerousD]

Go Hard Blues

I laugh at this stuff, what would Collingwood have to offer in a trade

 

[Kruezing]

I laugh at this stuff, what would Collingwood have to offer in a trade

Cox frampton and a date with Fly …

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Sorry but I'm yet to see any evidence of anyone being ruthless at the club for a long time.
When are they going to get 'ruthless' with the AFL? A ruthless club would be pushing for 2 first round picks for TDK for a record 1.8million contract prime Ruck about to hit his peak. Yet here we are meekly accepting unders from the system as usual.
A ruthless club would be threating all kinds of action over the changes to the father son. That are going to see us bent over yet again... after other clubs have been gifted dynasties.
All I'm seeing is the usual meekness from this club.
A lot of you just fall for the same old spin and chinese whispers.
'Mr new guru is the bee knees just wait you'll see, he's going to sort it out .. trust in Mr xxx" Seen it with Silvagni etc etc, and all objectivity goes straight out the window.
Nothing ever happens

Indeed.

 

[BlueTongue]

I laugh at this stuff, what would Collingwood have to offer in a trade

Melbourne are the scary ones though because they will now shed whomever is going to get them Humphrey.
Petracca may be talking to Adelaide but Melbourne may choose GCS for Humphrey, and will have freed up more Cap space in Oliver, Petracca & May.

Petracca is the fly in our ointment because clubs will say he improves them and will cost them less than Curnow.
OR, what if they offer up Petracca and Oliver to GCS for Humphrey, with Dimma backing himself to handle Oliver?

 

[ctwenty1]

Melbourne are the scary ones though because they will now shed whomever is going to get them Humphrey.
Petracca may be talking to Adelaide but Melbourne may choose GCS for Humphrey, and will have freed up more Cap space in Oliver, Petracca & May.

Well that’s ok too- if we can’t compete on salary etc that’s fine. We want to balance our list better depth

 

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and Silvagni contract offers are very similar, I'd be burning down AFL house if you blokes dont get band 1 for him leaving to go with the TDK band 1 compo.

Reckon Allen, TDK, Silvagni and Draper all net band 1 compo and the first round in an especially weak draft will be an absolute dogs breakfast.

 

[Garters]

Why are we accepting one mid first for a record free agency? Should be pick 1 or two mid firsts.

Read the rule book.
#Hands over face emoji...

 

[carlton_99]

Reckon Allen, TDK, Silvagni and Draper all net band 1 compo and the first round in an especially weak draft will be an absolute dogs breakfast.

Don't you dare threaten me with a good time

 

[teagueyubeauty]

A 1.8 million free agent hasn't existed before, this isn't case law, the AFL can give whatever pick they choose to, they could say for example with the net loss of TDK and Silvagni say O.K we will give you pick 10 and 11 to satisfy us. That's how the AFL works.

Buddy at an average of 1.1 million over 11 years some 13 years ago is every bit as good as 1.8 over 7 this many years later, pick 19 as band 1 compensation

You’re making stuff up mate

 

[Benaly28]

Very salty on the Essendon board.

 

[The Bighouse]

The Oscar Allen and Silvagni contract offers are very similar, I'd be burning down AFL house if you blokes dont get band 1 for him leaving to go with the TDK band 1 compo.

Reckon Allen, TDK, Silvagni and Draper all net band 1 compo and the first round in an especially weak draft will be an absolute dogs breakfast.

Age will come into the equation.

Draper is the worrying one, nowhere near a player worth that much $ or compo.

 

[StaggerLee]

Melbourne are the scary ones though because they will now shed whomever is going to get them Humphrey.
Petracca may be talking to Adelaide but Melbourne may choose GCS for Humphrey, and will have freed up more Cap space in Oliver, Petracca & May.

Petracca is the fly in our ointment because clubs will say he improves them and will cost them less than Curnow.
OR, what if they offer up Petracca and Oliver to GCS for Humphrey, with Dimma backing himself to handle Oliver?

I would think Humphrey has the final say on where he would be traded to.

 

[Bfevola]

Damn think GC are out on Charlie now.

What melbourne reap what we could have had. Damn you Petracca.

Hope Humphrey doesnt want to go to Melbourne and we get involved in that trade to get him.

 

[bigblueboy]

Expecting first round and end of first round picks for TDK and JSOS.
Definitely looking at improving our 2026 hand this year. League to formally announce rules for 2026 in the next day or two - plenty of clubs still pushing back following the commission meeting a couple of weeks ago.

 

[carlton_99]

Expecting first round and end of first round picks for TDK and JSOS.
Definitely looking at improving our 2026 hand this year. League to formally announce rules for 2026 in the next day or two - plenty of clubs still pushing back following the commission meeting a couple of weeks ago.

Taking far too long to announce these rule changes. Need to maximise the time given to list managers to prepare. Will get 1-2 days max now before trade period starts.