List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Gointocarlton]

Saints and Demons are terrible, but still can attract players, we can too

$$$$$$$

 

[BlueTongue]

Interesting re-signing. That fills our Cat B quota for 2026 along with Duffy, so we'd have to take Clark and possibly Gresham on the senior or Cat A rookie list if we were to select them.

Monahan is an interesting one. Totally out of his depth in his first year, but in 2025 showed a lot of improvement to the point that he actually looked like an AFL player at state league level. Definitely not against him getting another year, although it will be a make or break assignment.

That's a fair effort from a non-native to AFL considering players like Billy Wilson have had a whole childhood in the game and aren't that much in front of him.

Shows he's serious about it and deservedly another contract.
May have to watch a bit more VFL next year.

 

[Coona Blues]

Interesting re-signing. That fills our Cat B quota for 2026 along with Duffy, so we'd have to take Clark and possibly Gresham on the senior or Cat A rookie list if we were to select them.

Monahan is an interesting one. Totally out of his depth in his first year, but in 2025 showed a lot of improvement to the point that he actually looked like an AFL player at state league level. Definitely not against him getting another year, although it will be a make or break assignment.

While I like having room for another throw at the stumps, I am happy we have retained Rob. He has the skills, the athleticism and the want. Just needs to enhance his awareness. Has potential at either end or as a big strong run with type in the O’Connor (Geelong) mould.

Could be a real dark horse with the right coaching.

 

[Jimmae]

Hypothetical
Syd/GC - Rowbottom & 10 for Rosas & 7

Syd/Carlton - 7, F1, Hayward & Florent for Charlie

Sydney won't accept that for Rowbottom.

Not sure about Duffy's status. We signed him along with Monahan, but of course he did his knee in the Gaelic Football final and missed 2024, so not sure if that was technically the first year of his contract or 2025....although I would assume 2025 was the first year.

Our comms dept are pretty ordinary with communicating this stuff - they're more concerned about nice fluffy pieces to keep us all happy and joyous. It's pathetic that the first we hear about Monahan's re-signing is via an Irish newspaper.

Duffy came back to us a bit worse for wear after the year off, but still shows signs of his run and agility. Hopefully we are working to get him lean and moving into something resembling a midfield role, because he had a natural talent for that before the knee.

 

[Its an amigo!]

Voss as a player, or any of his team mates would have 110% done it. Voss as a coach letting one of our boys do it, I'm not sure but I'd like to see it

I wonder if Vossy is held back a bit from the attitudes of a couple of our board members around this style of play?

 

[DangerousD]

Interesting re-signing. That fills our Cat B quota for 2026 along with Duffy, so we'd have to take Clark and possibly Gresham on the senior or Cat A rookie list if we were to select them.

Monahan is an interesting one. Totally out of his depth in his first year, but in 2025 showed a lot of improvement to the point that he actually looked like an AFL player at state league level. Definitely not against him getting another year, although it will be a make or break assignment.

I thought I saw that you could have more than two cat B rookies, but you couldn’t have more than two Irish players

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I thought I saw that you could have more than two cat B rookies, but you couldn’t have more than two Irish players

Pretty sure that's outdated

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I thought I saw that you could have more than two cat B rookies, but you couldn’t have more than two Irish players

I believe they did away with the term "Irish' a few years back and changed it to 'International' - I assume so they it can cover other nationalities including USA, Canada etc.

I remember we had this debate I think it was last year on the number of Cat B rookies allowed. Pommie also came into the conversation, and thought it was three. It's hard to get a definitive answer cos the info on a number of AFL pages are old and have been superceded.

According to this one though which is fairly recent, it specifies that clubs can include a maximum of three players on its Rookie (Cat B) List. So you may well be right.

Skip straight to page 10.

https://play.afl/sites/default/files/2024-09/2024-Telstra-AFL-Draft-Booklet_0.pdf

 

[lukep_86]

I wonder if Vossy is held back a bit from the attitudes of a couple of our board members around this style of play?

Quite possibly, but the game has also changed a lot in the last 20 or so years.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Sounds like :

Curnow > Sydney 1st + F1 + Hayward.

I’d like to work Dattoli into the trade somehow but concede there are legitimate reasons why Florent may be included despite personally not wanting a bar of him and his 4 year contract.

So then roughly :

Picks 9&10 traded up for a pick to secure Robey.
This guy seriously looks the goods

Pick 19 to mostly secure Dean.

Sydney F1 added to our natural F1 to mostly secure Walker.

Khamis mostly secured with current 2nd we hold.

Chesser, Reidy and Ison mostly secured via future pick upgrades/trades or even some kind of return on Acres and/or McGovern.

Would imagine next season’s trade period we would be armed and dangerous in the FA market

Projecting forward a year or two :

* For the sake of the discussion, let’s put Newman Williams Hewett Saad Haynes Pittonet to the side …

Wilson Weitering Dean
Cowan O’Farrell Chesser
Walsh Cripps Hollands
Robey Kemp Hayward
Moir McKay Motlop

O’Keefe Cerra Smith

Walker Lord Khamis Ison FA?

The forward line has transitioned towards a more modern mobile attack with the possible acquisition of a quality FA to further strengthen this division.

Wilson and Chesser add pace and kicking from defence.

Smith Robey and Walker add the star ️ power !!

Hayward Moir and Ison add polish whilst Khamis plays as a genuine swingman.

Carlton are ready to emerge into a new era … both on and off the field …

Only thing i disagree about is firstly Khamis who imo is more around a third round pick at best, Chesser is more around a pick in the 30’s (which would be a bargain) yourself and others may not agree but the kid will be a belter of a moneyball pickup…

I’d be asking for Sydney’s 2nd pick 30 in a swap with our pick 48 as part of the deal also, holding out hope that we have 1 or 2 players lined up that would provide us with the traits we require with this years first round pick…

One player of need I’d be asking about, who we would get for a bargain range pick would be Ollie Murphy from Freo, 2 years in the WAFL system stuck behind a handful of very good KPD’s, Vic AA team defender Sandringham duel premiership player, 20yrs 202cm athletic KPD who can lockdown and also intercept with sound decision making and skills… (moneyball)

 

[Bletch]

I believe they did away with the term "Irish' a few years back and changed it to 'International' - I assume so they it can cover other nationalities including USA, Canada etc.

I remember we had this debate I think it was last year on the number of Cat B rookies allowed. Pommie also came into the conversation, and thought it was three. It's hard to get a definitive answer cos the info on a number of AFL pages are old and have been superceded.

According to this one though which is fairly recent, it specifies that clubs can include a maximum of three players on its Rookie (Cat B) List. So you may well be right.

Skip straight to page 10.

https://play.afl/sites/default/files/2024-09/2024-Telstra-AFL-Draft-Booklet_0.pdf

It's 2 Cat-B players max. Some of the AFL literature remains out of date.

 

[Cutter66]

Sounds like :

Curnow > Sydney 1st + F1 + Hayward.

I’d like to work Dattoli into the trade somehow but concede there are legitimate reasons why Florent may be included despite personally not wanting a bar of him and his 4 year contract.

So then roughly :

Picks 9&10 traded up for a pick to secure Robey.
This guy seriously looks the goods

Pick 19 to mostly secure Dean.

Sydney F1 added to our natural F1 to mostly secure Walker.

Khamis mostly secured with current 2nd we hold.

Chesser, Reidy and Ison mostly secured via future pick upgrades/trades or even some kind of return on Acres and/or McGovern.

Would imagine next season’s trade period we would be armed and dangerous in the FA market

Projecting forward a year or two :

* For the sake of the discussion, let’s put Newman Williams Hewett Saad Haynes Pittonet to the side …

Wilson Weitering Dean
Cowan O’Farrell Chesser
Walsh Cripps Hollands
Robey Kemp Hayward
Moir McKay Motlop

O’Keefe Cerra Smith

Walker Lord Khamis Ison FA?

The forward line has transitioned towards a more modern mobile attack with the possible acquisition of a quality FA to further strengthen this division.

Wilson and Chesser add pace and kicking from defence.

Smith Robey and Walker add the star ️ power !!

Hayward Moir and Ison add polish whilst Khamis plays as a genuine swingman.

Carlton are ready to emerge into a new era … both on and off the field …

I agree. Hayward and pick 10 minimum

 

[sweethoney]

I agree. Hayward and pick 10 minimum

Fox sports have pick 10. 2026 1st and 2nd rounder and Hayward for Charlie and pick 40

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Fox sports have pick 10. 2026 1st and 2nd rounder and Hayward for Charlie and pick 40

I think I could live with that.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Hayward and bulk top picks is probably how this goes down.

I personally like the idea of Carlton moving towards the modern game. Key forwards don’t win you flags anymore. We need speed, skills and synergy more than we need Curnow prancing around kicking 6 against bottom 8 teams.

 

[tragic]

Hayward and bulk top picks is probably how this goes down.

I personally like the idea of Carlton moving towards the modern game. Key forwards don’t win you flags anymore. We need speed, skills and synergy more than we need Curnow prancing around kicking 6 against bottom 8 teams.

Id rather Curnow + speed synergy etc

 

[DEliades]

Sydney 1R 2025
Sydney 1R 2026
Hayward
Papley/Campbell or Roberts

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Sydney 1R 2025
Sydney 1R 2026
Hayward
Papley/Campbell or Roberts

Doubt the Swans will give up that much.

Think the core of the deal is 2025 + 2026 1sts and Hayward. Florent either dealt with separately or included in the deal with a pick going back to them late in the 2nd or 3rd round. They'd hold a lot more value on Papley, Campbell or Roberts vs Florent who they'd likely be fine letting go for relatively cheap.

 

[skadoosh]

I'm genuinely interested and it's difficult to tell because there are lots of hypothetical trades being thrown around for Charlie. Perhaps a poll...but do people want to trade Charlie or do they want to keep him?

 

[carlton_99]

I'm genuinely interested and it's difficult to tell because there are lots of hypothetical trades being thrown around for Charlie. Perhaps a poll...but do people want to trade Charlie or do they want to keep him?

Feel like it would be largely influenced by the deals offered for him

 

[Markyd]

Love Charlie but think our forward line would be a lot more potent if we had 5 or 6 players kicking 30+ goals.
If we can get Humphrey, Hayward trade period would be a win.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

What a crap deal. Pick 13 and 38 in a crap draft + a "b" grader for a generational player, that makes you a top 4 side+ pick 45 next year in a good draft

The 2nd rounder is from 2026...

It's not pick 13, it's pick 11 as it stands (factoring in Allen compo)

You missed the fact we also get 2026 1st from them as well...

"pick 45" not sure if you know how matching bids works... but the picks clubs use to match said bids get "consumed" so pick given it's actually pick 40.. it might come down a bit to around 38.. but that is for THIS year not next...

As for this "generational player that makes you a top 4 side" well, we finished 3rd with him... once...

Unless of course, you think this year is a good draft and next year's is crap... which of course would be an even more nonsensical take...

 

[The Great Ian]

Need better outside ball users delivering inside 50. Simple as that.
Acres, Hollands, etc aren't good enough at that.
Use the TDK compensation to lure an established A-grade ball user.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Sydney 1R 2025
Sydney 1R 2026
Hayward
Papley/Campbell or Roberts

Papley already shitcanned any move to Carlton for Curnow.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Sydney 1R 2025
Sydney 1R 2026
Hayward
Papley/Campbell or Roberts

I'd forgo the 2025 1st if they added McInerney to Hayward and the 2026 1st.