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8 players gone.Also Doc retired.
Does anyone know how many list spots are actually available? And in which categories?
It’s 8 gone with Durdin7 players gone.
TDK
Sos
Charlie
Doc
Lemmey
Orazio
Cincotta
5 have come in
Reidy
Chesser
Ainsworth
Florent
Hayward
So 2 spots left for Dean and Ison.
+1 if HOF gets put on the inactive list.
You can argue if he was our best or second best player all day.What do you call it when you trade away your best player and let a bunch of other veterans walk as free agents, leaving the team deliberately uncompetitive, all so that you can invest heavily in draft picks over a 2-3 year period?
I know this one... Yep, there it is... Rebuild Time!!!
No one does this better than Carlton, either. Give it 12 months and we'll be up to our ankles in green shoots!
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Boyd is the odd one. Seemingly out of favour but has a higher capacity imo out of the three to be consistently best 23. Had a shocker 2025 so will be interesting how he responds. Put a line through Fog and Binns.I’d much rather White and F.Young on the list than Boyd and Fog and even Binns
Are you ok?
This is a completely unreasonable interpretation of a trade period that has involved bringing in 3 best 22 players
Not really sure what your point is.
If you were the List Manager what would you have done?
You can argue if he was our best or second best player all day.
But seriously where has that got us? A prelim once after a huge run and a smashing in an elimination final.
It hasn’t worked it’s worked for us to be middle of the road, so get some currency & what we are missing. It’s not like he was the only former Coleman medalist on the list
We also brought in Frank and White to cover Jagga and Kemp, so we started +28 players gone.
TDK
Sos
Charlie
Doc
Lemmey
Orazio
Cincotta
Durdin
5 have come in
Reidy
Chesser
Ainsworth
Florent
Hayward
So 3 spots left for Dean and Ison and someone else.
+1 if HOF gets put on the inactive list.
Edit. Forgot about Durdin.

I’d actually prefer Fog over Boyd … not sure where Boyd is at but he just doesn’t seem to have itBoyd is the odd one. Seemingly out of favour but has a higher capacity imo out of the three to be consistently best 23. Had a shocker 2025 so will be interesting how he responds. Put a line through Fog and Binns.
Let’s do a realistic assessment of the 4 Carlton players cited.Yeah right. We brought in some veterans (and all likeable enough players to have) because someone has to play next year.
I like all of Chesser, Florent, Haywood and Ainsworth, but they aren't better than Curnow/TDK/Silvagni/Dochety and we are losing more on top it seems.
We finished 11th and will start next season with:
- less veteran players than 2025
- less good players than 2025
Not exactly a recipe for high expectations.
So again, we are probably sliding down the ladder into the bottom 6, while also accumulating multiple first round draft picks in each of the next 3 drafts. Is that not a rebuild?
Just this year, or rehashing last year?
Look, I don't know how difficult things are with Curnow, but unless it was utterly unworkable, I wouldn't have traded him without getting something more concrete back the other way. I'd rather just wait and rehash the trade next year in a stronger draft. Melbourne did so with Petracca and have two top 10 picks this year to show for it.
We could have kept Charlie, and brought in Ainsworth, Chesser and Florent on the same deals, or a version of them. I wouldn't have let Silvagni's situation drag on the way it did (where he was basically told to wait for TDK first) and so I don't think he is gone.
Waiting on Charlie would also be better with our coaching situation too. Voss has one year left. How on earth do we evaluate 2026 for him, having moved on half the squad in two years? While I'm sure he has had some input into that... It just seems to complicate that
Sure. It may not be the wrong path to take. I just think we should be honest about where we are at. We're rebuilding. Maybe not scorched earth, thank god... (I think we know that is a very hard road to take). The hope is that it's more 'Collingwood 2021' rebuilding than 'Carlton for the entire 21st century'....
Big Question now,
McGovern or Phillips
fair enough. I just can’t tolerate his inability to kick over 35m / hit the scoreboard.I’d actually prefer Fog over Boyd … not sure where Boyd is at but he just doesn’t seem to have it
I get it … neither would be the preference … for some reason Boyd hasn’t reached any great heights yetfair enough. I just can’t tolerate his inability to kick over 35m / hit the scoreboard.
I agree, but that graphic is confusing. How can Silvagni and 22 be outs? And 42 an in and an out?Can’t say we were twiddling our thumbs
The age old douche v turd sandwich conundrumI get it … neither would be the preference … for some reason Boyd hasn’t reached any great heights yet
I’d argue (& only time will tell) that are ceiling has lowered. Charlie at full flight, TDK was still largely potential, sure he had that 8 week run last year, but outside of that it was moments. But the players we have brought in, that are role players, increase that floor. For too long we have probably had inconsistent top end talent & if they aren’t on we are in trouble.Yeah right. We brought in some veterans (and all likeable enough players to have) because someone has to play next year.
I like all of Chesser, Florent, Haywood and Ainsworth, but they aren't better than Curnow/TDK/Silvagni/Dochety and we are losing more on top it seems.
We finished 11th and will start next season with:
- less veteran players than 2025
- less good players than 2025
Not exactly a recipe for high expectations.
So again, we are probably sliding down the ladder into the bottom 6, while also accumulating multiple first round draft picks in each of the next 3 drafts. Is that not a rebuild?
Just this year, or rehashing last year?
Look, I don't know how difficult things are with Curnow, but unless it was utterly unworkable, I wouldn't have traded him without getting something more concrete back the other way. I'd rather just wait and rehash the trade next year in a stronger draft. Melbourne did so with Petracca and have two top 10 picks this year to show for it.
We could have kept Charlie, and brought in Ainsworth, Chesser and Florent on the same deals, or a version of them. I wouldn't have let Silvagni's situation drag on the way it did (where he was basically told to wait for TDK first) and so I don't think he is gone.
Waiting on Charlie would also be better with our coaching situation too. Voss has one year left. How on earth do we evaluate 2026 for him, having moved on half the squad in two years? While I'm sure he has had some input into that... It just seems to complicate that
Sure. It may not be the wrong path to take. I just think we should be honest about where we are at. We're rebuilding. Maybe not scorched earth, thank god... (I think we know that is a very hard road to take). The hope is that it's more 'Collingwood 2021' rebuilding than 'Carlton for the entire 21st century'....
How many list spots can we have?
Where are we at for list spots?
Also Doc retired.
Does anyone know how many list spots are actually available? And in which categories?
2025 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft
All About Carlton
Official Carlton Football Club Trade and Draft hub
Current draft picks: 9, 11, 43, 54, 67, 72, 87, 105 (total points: 2758)
Used picks: --
2026 draft picks: 1st round, 1st round (Sydney), 4th round
2027 draft picks: 1st round, 1st round (Sydney), 3rd round, 4th round
List changes:
OUT Primary List Rookie List Retired Sam Docherty Delisted Orazio Fantasia, Harry Lemmey Alex Cincotta Free Agency Tom De Koning, Jack Silvagni Traded Corey Durdin, Charlie Curnow TOTAL (8) 7 1
IN Primary List Rookie List SSP/MSD additions Francis Evans (SSP), Will White (SSP), Flynn Young (MSD) Free Agency Trade Liam Reidy, Campbell Chesser, Ben Ainsworth, Oliver Florent, Will Hayward Draft TOTAL (8) 5 3
Uncontracted: 5
Primary: Mitch McGovern (wait)
Rookie: Harry Charleson (keep), Will White (wait), Flynn Young, Francis Evans (UFA) (keep)
Upgraded Rookies: 0
LIST STATUS List Limits Post 2024 Draft Current Current Free Spots Primary 36-38 36 34 2 Rookie 1-6 5 7 -1 Cat-B Rookie 0-2 2 2 0 TOTAL 37-44 43 42 1 Total Free Spots 0-7 1 1 1
Trade/Draft Rumours
Leaving Carlton
- Nominated Trade -
- Trade Rumours -
Elijah Hollands (contracted) - has been asked to look for another club
Mitch McGovern (uncontracted)
Blake Acres (contracted)
Sam Walsh (contracted) - will attract interest, given ooc in 2026
Coming to Carlton
- Draft -
Harry Dean (Defender - 2025 Father/Son) - likely range: 5-15
Jack Ison (Utility - 2025 NGA) - likely range: 20-35
Tyson Gresham (Small Forward - 2025 NGA) - likely range: Late-Rookie
Mingara Clark (Forward - 2025 NGA) - likely range: Cat-B Rookie or SSP
- Nominated Trade -
Buku Khamis (Defender - WB - contracted) - has nominated Carlton as destination of choice, no deal yet
- Trade Rumours -
Tom Papley (Sm Fwd - Sydney - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - wants to stay
Errol Gulden (Mid - Sydney - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - improbable, but Carlton supporter
Isaac Heeney (Mid/Fwd - Sydney - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - improbable
Chad Warner (Mid - Sydney - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - improbable, unless 3rd party (WA) involved
Jed Walter (Tall Fwd - Gold Coast - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - GC say 'no'
Bailey Humphrey (Fwd/Mid - Gold Coast - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - GC say 'no'
Max Holmes (Mid/Def - Geelong - contracted) - potential inclusion in Curnow trade - improbable
Zac Butters (Mid - Port Adelaide - contracted) - possible interest in returning to Victoria, ooc 2026
Zac Bailey (Fwd/Mid - Brisbane - contracted) - possible interest in returning to Victoria, ooc 2026
Jack Petrucelle (Wing - WCE - delisted) - possible interest as train-on for SSP
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Fri 3-Oct to Sun 5-Oct: National Draft Combine
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Time 7pm: National Draft Round One
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5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
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3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft
Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 24-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2025 draft)
Mon 15-Feb 5pm: SSP ends
Completed Trades
3-Oct
1. Jack Silvagni (Carlton) to St Kilda. UFA - Carlton receive Band 2 compensation (currently pick 22 (was 19)).
2. Jacob Wehr (GWS) to Port Adelaide. UFA - GWS receive no compensation.
3. James Worpel (Hawthorn) to Geelong. RFA - Hawthorn receive Band 4 compensation (pick 43 (39)).
4. Tom De Koning (Carlton) to St Kilda. RFA - Carlton receive Band 1 compensation (pick 10 (9)).
5. Charlie Spargo (Melbourne) to North Melbourne. UFA - Dees receive Band 4 compensation (pick 42 (41)).
4-Oct
6. Sam Draper (Essendon) to Brisbane. UFA - Essendon receive Band 2 compensation (pick 21 (20)).
7. Brody Mihocek (Collingwood) to Melbourne. UFA - Pies receive (tba).
7-Oct
8. Liam Reidy (Fremantle) to Carlton. Reidy plus picks 54 (53) and 72 (71) to Carlton. Fremantle receive picks 51 (50) and 69 (68).
9. Malcolm Rosas Jr (Gold Coast) to Sydney. Rosas plus pick 63 (62) to Sydney. Gold Coast receive picks 52 (51) and 70 (69).
8-Oct
10. Complex trade
West Coast - give: 17 (16), 23 (22), 24 (23); receive: Brandon Starcevich (Brisbane), picks 13 (12) (Fre), 53 (52) (Bri).
Brisbane - give: 20 (19), 47 (46), 53 (52); receive: picks 17 (16) (WC), 23 (22) (WC), 45 (44) (Fre), 51 (50) (Fre).
Fremantle - give: 13 (12), 45 (44), 51 (50); receive: picks 20 (19) (Bri), 24 (23) (WC), 47 (46) (Bri).
11. Judd McVee (Melbourne) to Fremantle. Melbourne receives pick 24 (23).
12. Sam Flanders (Gold Coast) to St Kilda. Gold Coast receive pick 8 (7).
13. Oscar Allen (West Coast) to Brisbane. RFA - West Coast receive Band 1 compensation (pick 2).
9-Oct
14. Liam Ryan (West Coast) to St Kilda. Ryan and WC 2027 R3 pick to Saints. West Coast receive StK 2026 R2 pick.
15. Max Heath (St Kilda) to Melbourne. St Kilda receive Melb 2027 R4 pick.
10-Oct
15. Brody Mihocek (Collingwood) to Melbourne. Dees get Mihocek and pick 71. Pies get pick 61 and Melb 2026 3rd rd pick.
16. Campbell Chesser (West Coast) to Carlton. West Coast receive pick 41.
17. Complex trade
Carlton - give: Corey Durdin, 2026 2nd round pick; receive: Ben Ainsworth, pick 67 (PA)
Port Adelaide - give: picks 29, 67; receive: Corey Durdin, 2026 2nd round pick (Car)
Gold Coast - give: Ben Ainsworth; receive: pick 29
13-Oct
18. Pick Trade. GWS receive pick 12. Western Bulldogs receive picks 14 and 27.
19. Tylar Young (Richmond) to West Coast. Richmond receive pick 38.
20. Will Brodie (Fremantle) to Port Adelaide. Fremantle receive pick 103.
14-Oct
21. Pick Trade. Collingwood receive picks 45 and 56. Brisbane receive pick 59 and 2026 third round pick (Mel).
22. Brayden Fiorini (Gold Coast) to Essendon. Gold Coast receive 2026 third round pick (GC).
23. Connor Budarick (Gold Coast) to Western Bulldogs. Dogs get Budarick plus pick 70. GCS receive pick 37.
15-Oct
24. Oliver Florent (Sydney) to Carlton. Sydney receive 2026 third round pick (Car).
25. Changkuoth Jiath (Hawthorn) to Melbourne. Hawthorn receive pick 42 and 2026 4th round pick (Mel).
26. Jai Serong (Hawthorn) to Sydney. Swans get Serong and 2026 4th round pick (Haw). Hawks get 2026 3rd round pick (Syd).
27. Pick Trade. Hawthorn receive picks 10 and 22. Carlton receive picks 9, 31, 42, 43.
28. Finnbar Maley (North Melbourne) to Adelaide. Crows get Maley and pick 64. Roos get pick 57 and 2026 4th round pick (Ade).
29. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs) to Gold Coast. Dogs receive pick 74.
30. Jack Buller (Sydney) to Collingwood. Pies get Buller and 2026 4th round pick (Syd). Swans get 2026 3rd round pick (Col)
31. Jack Steele (St Kilda) to Melbourne. Saints get 2027 3rd round pick (Mel).
32. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne) to GWS. Dees get 2026 3rd round pick (GWS).
33. Christian Petracca (Melbourne) to Gold Coast. Suns get Petracca, picks 24, 28 and 2026 2nd round pick (Mel). Dees get picks 7, 8, 37 and 2026 1st round pick (GC) and 2027 3rd round pick (GC).
34. Patrick Retschko (Geelong) to Richmond. Cats receive pick 99.
35. Charlie Curnow (Carlton) to Sydney. Sydney get Curnow, picks 31, 42 and 2027 2nd round pick (Car). Blues get Will Hayward, pick 11, 2026 1st round pick (Syd) and 2027 1st round pick (Syd).
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Nominated:
Name Type From Destination Notes Deven Robertson Uncontracted Brisbane West Coast likely DFA Leek Aleer Uncontracted GWS St Kilda Cancelled Buku Khamis Contracted Western Bulldogs Carlton Callum Ah Chee Uncontracted Brisbane Adelaide Rowan Marshall Contracted St Kilda Geelong
Yet to Nominate, but trade requested:
Name Type From Destination Notes
Mooted:
Name Type From Destination Notes Jordan Butts RFA Adelaide Zach Merrett Contracted Essendon Hawthorn? Jordan Ridley Contracted Essendon Brisbane? Staying? Callum Wilkie Uncontracted St Kilda Western Bulldogs/? Staying? Jy Simpkin Contracted North Melbourne Collingwood Staying Bobby Hill Collingwood Mitch McGovern Uncontracted Carlton Elijah Hollands Contracted Carlton Henry Hustwaite Contracted Hawthorn Essendon? Jamie Elliott Contracted Collingwood Staying (signed new contract) Staying Zane Duursma Uncontracted North Melbourne Essendon/? Stephen May Contracted Melbourne Bailey Humphrey Contracted Gold Coast Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne, ?
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I like all of Chesser, Florent, Haywood and Ainsworth, but they aren't better than Curnow/TDK/Silvagni/Dochety and we are losing more on top it seems.
We finished 11th and will start next season with:
- less veteran players than 2025
- less good players than 2025
Not exactly a recipe for high expectations.
So again, we are probably sliding down the ladder into the bottom 6, while also accumulating multiple first round draft picks in each of the next 3 drafts. Is that not a rebuild?
I don’t understand why we did that pick swap with Hawthorn? I understood it for the points, but then we traded two of the picks awayLots of permutations to what happens with 9 and 11, but at minimum, we're getting Dean and Ison. Some options:
We could try and run the gauntlet. In a somewhat interesting confluence of events, the top 8 picks are all consecutive picks for 4 different clubs. We could try our luck and see if we can coast by without a bid on Dean and use pick 9(or whatever it becomes - expect 3 bids before him). I think it's unlikely that we get there, but odds are it's close. We can let the picks get swallowed, but a bid on Dean by Melbourne at say... 7(10), we end up with pick 17 as a remainder. But we can probably only match a bid on Ison after 40 or so in that scenario, so it's a bit risky.
We can try to move up a little. Best target is likely * with 6 and 21 for 9 and 11. You pay a little premium to move up, and I think this is a fair deal, but they probably knock it back. If they think the draft is shallow, it's a no, but if they think it's flat, then it's an extra early pick for them. However, it means we are in trouble if there's a very early bid for Dean. If it's before 6, then we've lost the advantage, but if we take another pick before 6 then we don't have the points for Dean until after 16 or so. And we wouldn't have the points for Ison unless they both go far later than expected. So I think this is unlikely.
We can shift some points into next year. My preferred option here is, funnily enough, Hawthorn. 9 and 11 for 10 and 22, plus an F1. Should easily match Dean and Ison, plus stockpile assets to trade up next year for Cody. There's even a scenario there where a later bid on Dean means we can actually use 22 and still have enough points for Ison.
Or we could trade out 9 and 43 to North for a future first and pick 26. Gets us Dean and Ison, and a likely high pick for Cody, and would be attractive to North to get back into the draft in a year where they've done very little to improve their list via trade. They will still be thinking they rise next year (law of averages), and if they don't, they are staring down a raft of young high draft picks who are eager to jump ship, so they will likely be able to trade back into next year's draft if they need to.
I'm leaning towards trying to move a pick into next year. I think it'll be hard to do as clubs will be reluctant to part with picks next year in a perceived better draft. But I also don't think we want more than Dean and Ison (and a rookie upgrade), given our list spots.