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Game will be even quicker next season. Shorter time to move the ball on, plus reduced boundary throw ins. Nowhere to hide.
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Newman has very few kms on the clock. Showroom condition.
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You say this as if Newman wasn't one of our best players the last couple of years he was on the park
Lewis Young is good depth in multiple positions and most importantly can cover our lack of KPP.
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If EH stays on the list, will it basically be Dean and Ison in the draft, and maybe a Rookie upgrade, leaving an SSP spot - or would we go for a third pick in the draft (maybe a later pick, then also trying a pick swap of some sort to get a 2026 R1 pick, or a high 2026 R2 pick)?
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He is decent depth that will no longer be required once Harry Dean cements himself in the side, if he plays less than 10 games this year I dont see a situation where he is retained, and for his own career probably looks for a fresh start somewhere else.
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We should get change from matching a bid on Dean that still falls in the teens/early twenties. I'd love Dovaston or the like.
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Is the number of games played really a fair measure for a depth player?
He's more than defensive depth. We also have a VFL program to run.
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We will take 3 picks, 2 x 1st round picks + Ison. There is one spot let for Elijah or White.
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By the end of 2026 Lewis will be 28yo, its my view that you do not keep a 28yo player as depth, he will have been in the system for 10 years at 2 clubs and if he is not a best 23 player you turn him over and bring in a kid.
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I still refuse to believe we will go into the season without another ready tall defender. I have certainly read what C4 has said about Elijah. And his mail is almost always great.
But if we go into the season with Weitering and our only support being Young, Haynes, Dean, and Gov, then I think we have sold ourselves into trouble.
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I missed C4 mail, could you share?
I am less concerned about key back, how many do you think we need?? You have also forgotten Cowan and Kemp could play back if required, Newman can take a 3rd tall. We lost JSOS who only played 13 games and our defence was far from an issue this year, IMO we have ample coverage.. Like any side in the AFL if we lost our best defender in Weiters we would be in trouble, but there is no way to protect against that.
I think it will very much depend on when the Dean bid comes, and what if any F1 offers we get.
If we do get a decent F1 offer, reckon we would take that, Dean & Ison, and then maybe 2 rookie upgrades leaving 2 spots open, unless we've already committed to a KPD.
Back, forward, ruck. Without bolstering our KPPās, would make sense to have some coverage in reserve in areas of need.
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I donāt agree on the coverage for a variety of reasons. But I appreciate beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so letās agree to disagree. The Elijah mail from C4 is in the Bluemour No Discussion thread.
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Just my opinion, but given uncertainty about points matching for 2026, and looking at OOC players in 2026, plus what sounds like some good picks in 2026, I'd be happy with somehow getting an extra pick next year.
Yeah, I think I'm leaning that way.
I won't be disappointed if we take the extra pick this year, just really interested in which way they go.
Also reckon we might need some extra points for Ison.
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I would assume we can sign a key defender in the event that one of our players has a long term injury that pops up at some stage. For example let's say player X goes down, can't we sign someone to the rookie list as cover as long as player X is out for a significant part of the year? Not sure how that works.
Perhaps the club will only sign a key defender in the event one of the talls goes down. Also I wonder if Reidy can play back as a pure stopper?
Perhaps the club will only sign a key defender in the event one of the talls goes down. Also I wonder if Reidy can play back as a pure stopper?
The player has to have a season ending injury to go onto the Inactive List.
If it happens before the start of the season, you can sign a player SSP.
If it happens during the first half-ish of the season you can take a player in the Mid-season Draft.
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The more I think about it, the more I believe we only take Dean and Ison in the draft.
We then hold two list spots for SSP. Four train on players can be invited for preseason. In the end I think one of those spots goes to Elijah and the other goes to Ethan Phillips or another depth KPD.
We then hold two list spots for SSP. Four train on players can be invited for preseason. In the end I think one of those spots goes to Elijah and the other goes to Ethan Phillips or another depth KPD.
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It just adds to the fascination.
We currently have four available spots. It is yet to be seen if they are all used in the National Draft (or a combo of ND & SSP). I think the expectation has been three picks, a rookie elevation and a rookie addition through SSP, but the Elijah ācommitment,ā may skew that. If he is returned to the list, is it as a main lister or does he become a rookie for house keeping purposes?
We are not getting an obviously better player than Elijah Hollands with our āthird pickā, so if he passes muster becomes a no brainer. That leaves only one spot to cover NEEDS, either on the main list or as a rookie. Elijah has to earn that spot. Assuming C4 is correct, and yes he gets good info, we only have one pick to obtain key position cover, mature cover, ready to play.
For mine, we still need key position coverage, particularly defensively. I have come to consider our VFL defender Phillips as a near certainty to get a rookie spot accordingly. With Dean so young and his readiness remaining subjective, as well as OāFarrell missing for most of the season, we would be down to Weitering and Young as genuine KPD players. It is too much to expect draftee Dean to immediately become a defensive staple. We have Haynes, McGovern and at a pinch Carroll who are more third talls. We have a very under developed Irishman Matt Duffy who may become a factor down the track, but at the moment has L plates in the twos. The other obvious option is Brodie Kemp who has real questions over his readiness post injury and perception he was found wanting when used as the second KPD.
Our key options are very limited. Interestingly Collingwood has operated with a very thin list of key position players during Wrightās watch. I am wondering if it is his philosophy or just coincidence.
At the moment our tall defenders are
Weitering - staple, lock.
Young - ready to step up when required, still conjecture if he can co-exist with JW.
Dean - draftee, highly rated. Birthdate 13/11.
OāFarrell - LTI, very best scenario, he gets back for final handful of home and away games, and that may be optomistic.
Kemp - returning from LTI, yet to show readiness and has been earmarked to continue forward duties.
Haynes - third tall, can play undersized KPP, but has limitations
McGovern - third tall, does not play accountable enough to be considered a KPD option for mine.
Duffy - played a little over half of last season in VFL on limited minutes. Hard to see him ready to step up
After that we have Carroll 190cm(ish) third tall at a pinch. Second Irish Monahan, more ready than Duffy, but not as tall. Then we step down to the likes of Acres and draftee Ison as despararion coverage.
Surely we add some KPD coverage. There are older DFA options like Sam Frost, and I rate Jacob Blight highly, but seemingly is committed to a return to WA after earlier being linked to Collingwood. Realistically whoever we add is a place holder until Dean and OāFarrell are ready for long term action. After 2026, the player we add likely becomes dedicated depth only for his rookie tenure (3 years)
We also arenāt over supplied for Key Forwards with Curnow, Silvagni and De Koning removing options, and quitting on Lemmey, but have more prospects to cobble an attack together with rucks and third tall options blended with medium and small options.
McKay supported by Kemp and OāKeeffe seems the best option. Reidy has show decent forward nous making him an option for the mix. Skipper Crippa is key position size and we may look to give others more responsibility in the middle. Lewis Young had some decent cameos last season playing a role forward. McGovern can be an effective second tall if called upon and is an option to become a third tall staple. Monahan started to step up in the twos, so has some chance of becoming an option. Then there are quality aerial operators like Moir and Hayward who should be staples in the top team. As I have mentioned elsewhere, OāFarrell could also be deployed as a KPF when he returns from his ACL. There are a number of ways to cobble together an effective forward structure with smaller players, but some teams have a three pronged tall forward structure dictating that we have options available to cope with them.
Clearly genuine tall defensive coverage is a greater need than key forwards.
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