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Rodriguez will measure about 6'1" at the combine, burst speed and can kick both feet - perfect guy for Sydney to draft.

They have pick #9, will be pick #11 potentially by the time the draft starts, mid teens by the time they get to use it. Max King in their academy might chew that pick up anyway.

So we should look to buy it from them if he's still on the board then.
 
Rodriguez will measure about 6'1" at the combine, burst speed and can kick both feet - perfect guy for Sydney to draft.

They have pick #9, will be pick #11 potentially by the time the draft starts, mid teens by the time they get to use it. Max King in their academy might chew that pick up anyway.

So we should look to buy it from them if he's still on the board then.
I would trade our 1st and second pick to Sydney for pick 9.
 

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Really like this if it happens…
2 of the best rated WA mids - with ball magnet tendencies…
Have synergy being SF teammates- especially in a compromised and underwhelming draft crop.
Whan and Fred - fit a need IF they can develop into line breaking mid/flankers
Will be interesting to see how Farrow tests.
Could be the bolter from WA.
 
I like the look of Rodriguez, but I'm not convinced about trading up to 9 to get him.

Is he a standout?


Rodriguez does not seem to be a standout top 20 pick. ESPN is the only one I've seen have him up there (number 12 as at July 16), with Rookieme (top 30) and Twomey (top 25) not listing him. There's a few other rankings hidden behind paywalls that I'm not sure about. I don't see clubs outside WA going for him early, as he would be a big flight risk to come back and play with Whan and Robinson.

The trade up talk maybe comes from before the Brisbane game and thinking we'd be finishing above Hawthorn (and hence picking after the Weagles). That looks less likely now.
 
Depends what it takes to trade up. If we've committed to Whan is going late and we're taking say three picks wouldn't you rather have two picks as high as possible than burn an early third rounder on Whan who we would've got anyway.

Of course burning the third rounder is no big deal but if you can improve our draft position earlier on by doing it that's more ideal.
 
Depends what it takes to trade up. If we've committed to Whan is going late and we're taking say three picks wouldn't you rather have two picks as high as possible than burn an early third rounder on Whan who we would've got anyway.

Of course burning the third rounder is no big deal but if you can improve our draft position earlier on by doing it that's more ideal.
Haven’t we got two 3rd picks( ours and Richmond’s)
 
Exactly. If we're taking Whan anyway wouldn't you rather our first pick be pick 12 instead of pick 14?

I really don't think we have the list space for much more than three picks this year tbh.


Fyfe, Walters, Aish, Brodie, Erasmus, Delean, Narkle, Sharp

Sturt - LTI list.

That is 8 plus Sturt.

Then we have players like Reidy, McDonald.

I think we easily have 5 list spots even with people coming off the rookie list.
 

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Fyfe, Walters, Aish, Brodie, Erasmus, Delean, Narkle, Sharp

Sturt - LTI list.

That is 8 plus Sturt.

Then we have players like Reidy, McDonald.

I think we easily have 5 list spots even with people coming off the rookie list.
Draper comes off the Category B rookie list - down to seven already.

Two or three of those players will be re-signed (Although I'd delist Reidy as well).

You've assumed everyone out of contract will leave. I think we'll trade in one or two as well.

Narkle and Reidy are on the rookie list so won't help us get more draft picks unless we go with a larger senior list which we won't.

It'll be three picks by the end of trade period IMO. They'll be one or two more across the rookie draft and SSP.
 
Two or three of those players will be re-signed (Although I'd delist Reidy as well).

I hope Erasmus and Sharp stay, but I don't think they do.

I am not sure Aish is worth preserving with. Maybe keep him on minimum cash and tell him he will play WAFL most of the year.
I don't see a role for Narkle or Delean in our best 22. Where do you have them playing?

Narkle is too small to play in the middle in the AFL.
 
I hope Erasmus and Sharp stay, but I don't think they do.

I am not sure Aish is worth preserving with. Maybe keep him on minimum cash and tell him he will play WAFL most of the year.
I don't see a role for Narkle or Delean in our best 22. Where do you have them playing?

Narkle is too small to play in the middle in the AFL.
I think we should delist Narkle but also predict we won't.

Also think Judd McVee will be at Freo next year and if Erasmus leaves we won't reach the draft without signing a direct replacement through trade or DFA. Hope Erasmus re-signs - No point considering his replacement until he requests a trade. They'll be options.

Think Sharp will re-sign unless we really don't rate him anymore. I think he showed enough last year to say he's worth another shot on a one year deal, especially considering he's still on the rookie list. I don't think anyone will be offering any more than that.
 
If Whan is bid on pick #41 then he costs us whatever our next pick is, we should make sure it's pick #100.

Sell our second and third to get ahead of #41.

Sell our first with them to get a pick higher up to get Rodriguez and play him off half back or half forward so that kick off both feet can come into the game.

I only said pick #9 because its higher than ours with an academy player potentially consuming it.
 

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If we don’t trade up for Rodriguez how do we feel about Mitch Marsh from SA?
Marsh isn’t a tall forward he’s 191cm
Yeah I’d be keen , apparently so is wallsy(that’s all the evidence I need)
Read his bio could end up the ultimate goal kicking wingman

On SA players he’s done knee which is never great )but if Harley barker slid fair bit we d have to look at him too you d think
 
Marsh isn’t a tall forward he’s 191cm

Mitch Marsh will be 195cm by the time he is rolling into the AFL, just watch. Gives me Oscar Allen vibes who was 191.1cm at combine
 
If we don’t trade up for Rodriguez how do we feel about Mitch Marsh from SA?

I like Marsh or the vic small forward.

FYI - I think Rodriquez will be available at our pick.

--------Here are the other players I like, just purely based on needs.



Jevan Phillipou

Because a broken arm saw Phillipou miss the whole under-18 championships for South Australia, the younger brother of St Kilda's Mattaes has been somewhat out of sight, out of mind. But don't sleep on his ability. The highly talented bouncy forward/midfielder is a star junior decathlete away from the field and shows plenty of those attributes on it with his leap for a mark and speed at ground level. He recently made his senior debut for Woodville-West Torrens after starring at under-18 level following his injury, including a 31-disposal and two-goal game against Norwood.



----Jacob Farrow looks ok as well. We need heigh in the midfield, plus good skills.



As a taller midfielder who can also go overhead and make an impact in the air, Farrow brings a different set of skills to the group of available midfielders this year. The rangy left-footer has drawn some Jordan Dawson comparisons and stood out for Western Australia, particularly with his penetrating kicking when he had a game-high 29 disposals and 803 metres gained against the Allies. Shapes as potentially the first WA prospect picked.


Marsh

Marsh has perhaps been a surprise packet of this season but he just keeps on rising up the draft board. After a hot start to the season with West Adelaide's under-18 team – he kicked 15 goals in the first seven games of the year – Marsh carried that goalkicking form into the championships. He was the leading goalkicker in the whole carnival with 12 majors, including a haul of five against Vic Country and four against the Allies. The tall forward is an excellent left-foot kick, finds space on the lead, converts his opportunities and just knows where the goals are. He doesn't qualify for father-son status at either Adelaide or Richmond, where his father Ben played a total of 55 games.

Lachy Dovaston

Specialist small forwards have been in high demand over recent drafts, and with many of this year’s best being club-tied, Dovaston’s services will likely come at a premium. An All-Australian at Under 16 level, he was tried as a small defender at times last year and has rolled through the middle third, but far and away looks most dangerous in attack. A crafty ground level player, Dovaston works up the ground and hurts the opposition on the way back. He has booted goals in all bar one of his seven Coates Talent League outings this season, averaging a tick under two per game to go with 5.1 tackles. That defensive aspect, on top of the scoreboard impact, is what makes Dovaston so appealing. He plays with a bit of swagger and consistently backs it up.

Harley barker

There wasn’t much separating Barker to his fellow South Australian wingman LeRay, with whom he has formed a formidable partnership on opposite sides of the field. Another National Academy member, the Sturt Under 18 skipper lit up South Australia’s preseason testing day with blistering 20m sprint and agility test times – results which translate well on-field. Barker carves up the outside and is a thumping kick of the ball at his best, able to takes metres and connect the lines effectively. Like LeRay, he has been used in several roles and cut his teeth as a half-back in the state squad last year. This year, he has also taken his talents into the midfield-forward rotation for Sturt, but has all the makings of a modern-day wingman. Height, work rate, and penetrative ball use.
 
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I like Marsh or the vic small forward.

FYI - I think Rodriquez will be available at our pick.

--------Here are the other players I like, just purely based on needs.



Jevan Phillipou

Because a broken arm saw Phillipou miss the whole under-18 championships for South Australia, the younger brother of St Kilda's Mattaes has been somewhat out of sight, out of mind. But don't sleep on his ability. The highly talented bouncy forward/midfielder is a star junior decathlete away from the field and shows plenty of those attributes on it with his leap for a mark and speed at ground level. He recently made his senior debut for Woodville-West Torrens after starring at under-18 level following his injury, including a 31-disposal and two-goal game against Norwood.



----Jacob Farrow looks ok as well. We need heigh in the midfield, plus good skills.



As a taller midfielder who can also go overhead and make an impact in the air, Farrow brings a different set of skills to the group of available midfielders this year. The rangy left-footer has drawn some Jordan Dawson comparisons and stood out for Western Australia, particularly with his penetrating kicking when he had a game-high 29 disposals and 803 metres gained against the Allies. Shapes as potentially the first WA prospect picked.


Marsh

Marsh has perhaps been a surprise packet of this season but he just keeps on rising up the draft board. After a hot start to the season with West Adelaide's under-18 team – he kicked 15 goals in the first seven games of the year – Marsh carried that goalkicking form into the championships. He was the leading goalkicker in the whole carnival with 12 majors, including a haul of five against Vic Country and four against the Allies. The tall forward is an excellent left-foot kick, finds space on the lead, converts his opportunities and just knows where the goals are. He doesn't qualify for father-son status at either Adelaide or Richmond, where his father Ben played a total of 55 games.

Lachy Dovaston

Specialist small forwards have been in high demand over recent drafts, and with many of this year’s best being club-tied, Dovaston’s services will likely come at a premium. An All-Australian at Under 16 level, he was tried as a small defender at times last year and has rolled through the middle third, but far and away looks most dangerous in attack. A crafty ground level player, Dovaston works up the ground and hurts the opposition on the way back. He has booted goals in all bar one of his seven Coates Talent League outings this season, averaging a tick under two per game to go with 5.1 tackles. That defensive aspect, on top of the scoreboard impact, is what makes Dovaston so appealing. He plays with a bit of swagger and consistently backs it up.

Harley barker

There wasn’t much separating Barker to his fellow South Australian wingman LeRay, with whom he has formed a formidable partnership on opposite sides of the field. Another National Academy member, the Sturt Under 18 skipper lit up South Australia’s preseason testing day with blistering 20m sprint and agility test times – results which translate well on-field. Barker carves up the outside and is a thumping kick of the ball at his best, able to takes metres and connect the lines effectively. Like LeRay, he has been used in several roles and cut his teeth as a half-back in the state squad last year. This year, he has also taken his talents into the midfield-forward rotation for Sturt, but has all the makings of a modern-day wingman. Height, work rate, and penetrative ball use.
Tbh our second rounder and Richmond's third rounder are in a good spot to go early on one of the best mature agers in the draft. Hopefully there's a small forward available.

As I've said I think we'll be going after Judd McVee and that probably means our second rounder is going to be involved. We'll need to trade more than that but pick 10-12 is too much so we'll probably be packaging up at least our other picks and throwing them in front if either Melbourne or a side that wants points (to move up that second rounder).
 
I like Marsh or the vic small forward.

FYI - I think Rodriquez will be available at our pick.

--------Here are the other players I like, just purely based on needs.



Jevan Phillipou

Because a broken arm saw Phillipou miss the whole under-18 championships for South Australia, the younger brother of St Kilda's Mattaes has been somewhat out of sight, out of mind. But don't sleep on his ability. The highly talented bouncy forward/midfielder is a star junior decathlete away from the field and shows plenty of those attributes on it with his leap for a mark and speed at ground level. He recently made his senior debut for Woodville-West Torrens after starring at under-18 level following his injury, including a 31-disposal and two-goal game against Norwood.



----Jacob Farrow looks ok as well. We need heigh in the midfield, plus good skills.



As a taller midfielder who can also go overhead and make an impact in the air, Farrow brings a different set of skills to the group of available midfielders this year. The rangy left-footer has drawn some Jordan Dawson comparisons and stood out for Western Australia, particularly with his penetrating kicking when he had a game-high 29 disposals and 803 metres gained against the Allies. Shapes as potentially the first WA prospect picked.


Marsh

Marsh has perhaps been a surprise packet of this season but he just keeps on rising up the draft board. After a hot start to the season with West Adelaide's under-18 team – he kicked 15 goals in the first seven games of the year – Marsh carried that goalkicking form into the championships. He was the leading goalkicker in the whole carnival with 12 majors, including a haul of five against Vic Country and four against the Allies. The tall forward is an excellent left-foot kick, finds space on the lead, converts his opportunities and just knows where the goals are. He doesn't qualify for father-son status at either Adelaide or Richmond, where his father Ben played a total of 55 games.

Lachy Dovaston

Specialist small forwards have been in high demand over recent drafts, and with many of this year’s best being club-tied, Dovaston’s services will likely come at a premium. An All-Australian at Under 16 level, he was tried as a small defender at times last year and has rolled through the middle third, but far and away looks most dangerous in attack. A crafty ground level player, Dovaston works up the ground and hurts the opposition on the way back. He has booted goals in all bar one of his seven Coates Talent League outings this season, averaging a tick under two per game to go with 5.1 tackles. That defensive aspect, on top of the scoreboard impact, is what makes Dovaston so appealing. He plays with a bit of swagger and consistently backs it up.

Harley barker

There wasn’t much separating Barker to his fellow South Australian wingman LeRay, with whom he has formed a formidable partnership on opposite sides of the field. Another National Academy member, the Sturt Under 18 skipper lit up South Australia’s preseason testing day with blistering 20m sprint and agility test times – results which translate well on-field. Barker carves up the outside and is a thumping kick of the ball at his best, able to takes metres and connect the lines effectively. Like LeRay, he has been used in several roles and cut his teeth as a half-back in the state squad last year. This year, he has also taken his talents into the midfield-forward rotation for Sturt, but has all the makings of a modern-day wingman. Height, work rate, and penetrative ball use.
Dovaston sounds exactly what we need but I’m just bit sceptical of just how good he really is as the author says ,small fwds are all the rage these days and I wonder if being basically the only real true small fwd in the open draft has risen his stocks more than they should(granted his numbers still seem decent)
My point being more than happy to grab a gun small but we’d have to use our first so in that case I’d hope he’s genuinely projects as high ceiling/good floor because we simply need quality not quantity in that position IF were spending decent capital there

Otherwise the other options like you ve posted as Fred, barker, Philippou*,marsh(I don’t think he’s available regardless at our first) project much better as multi positional players and I think getting a gun mid ,decent small fwd is a better option for us than (maybe )gun small fwd average mid.

*keep forgetting about this bloke.
Certainly has exciting athletic profile and in fact could solve our small fwd problem whilst still running through the midfield.
Definitely would prefer over dovaston at this stage
 

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