List Mgmt. 2026 Trade and List Management Thread

[chubbspeterson]

Aidan Bonar, Aidan Corr and Paul Ahern like this.

Fair point. I think their list is a little more talented on the fringes now though to be fair than those guys.

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

Don’t mind Darcy Wilson, but I’d be playing him more as a def mid (Dunkley), then an off wingman.

Is a good size, and runs like a machine, he would be a prick of a bloke to play on. Like Dunkley, could still see him get involved offensively, but he shouldn’t be the final link going into 50.

Going off last week, FOS is playing that role for us, but he will shift to being more attacking over the coming years you would think.

Not sure what I’d give up for Darcy though.

 

[chubbspeterson]

No trades please, I just want kids through the door before these compromised drafts become even more compromised.

Agree. I'm fine with trading 2027 or 2028 Tassie draft picks for players, but we have to keep in mind F/S and NGA points that may be need in 2027 and 2028.
2026 picks should not be traded if possible at all and especially not without getting a selection back.
If anything, we should be trying to get more picks in the 2026 draft by sliding in the order (other teams trading players are not going to want picks from the Tassie drafts, so this may be one mechanism we have to use) or trading in futures to generate extra picks to match a bid on McCartney if he picks us or to get a couple more players in the top 35.

 

[DesertRoo]

See if this is more your jam



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FWIW I think Walter's perhaps unperformed because Hardwick doesn't seem to know how to integrate him into a forward line where King and Long are well-established as the two main tall threats.

He's only 20 years old. Roughly same age of Dawson and Goad. Can't expect every key forward to hit the ground running like Cooper Trembath.

Assuming he gets only half a season's worth of gametime this year, I reckon acquiring him for a late teens pick would be very savvy recruitment.

This is about as brutal as it gets, not posting to shitcan the kid either..
You could see someone like Essendon getting involved and paying a couple of first rounders because he's going to unlock them becoming a super power, only for him to dish up this for the next few years.

 

[Sphynx]

Don’t mind Darcy Wilson, but I’d be playing him more as a def mid (Dunkley), then an off wingman.

Is a good size, and runs like a machine, he would be a prick of a bloke to play on. Like Dunkley, could still see him get involved offensively, but he shouldn’t be the final link going into 50.

Going off last week, FOS is playing that role for us, but he will shift to being more attacking over the coming years you would think.

Not sure what I’d give up for Darcy though.

I disagree. He's not a defensive mid, he's the opposite, he's big engine, goal scoring center half player/half forward.

If you look at the advanced stats, he's virtually identical to Shai Bolton in his advanced disposal metrics. As in, one of the closest like for like matches of two players getting around.

Where he gets it, how dangerous he is with his decision making, how poorly he executes that decision by foot and how often his involvement in a chain directly results in scoring or goals.

He's already had a 5 and 3 goal game playing wing/forward inside his first 40 games. He's already had 2 x 10+ SI involvement games also.

He's a physical specimen, with elite speed, endurance and is a real handful overhead.

I don't want to sound inappropriate with racial stereotyping, but if his surname was Pickett or Motlop, you wouldn't even have this discussion, he'd be considered a forward of center, free wheeling weapon.

His kicking isn't great, but you consider the total package. Sheezel and Stephens aren't statistically good users either, you take the total package however. His closest kicking match is Shai Bolton, whom im sure most would label absolutely lethal and damaging. So impartial context is important.

As a package (his endurancce, speed, movement, where he gets it, overhead ability and scoreboard impact, toughness etc), he's a massive weapon. If he kicked it like Gulden or Heeney, he would be Errol Gulden on steroids.....St Kilda have Max Hall, playing to an elite level in the role he's really probably most suited to as that high half forward/forward center player.

I actually think he's ideally suited to where we are playing Konstanty/Duursma at the moment, rather than purely wing.

His goal scoring and scoreboard impact can't be ignored. His engine and speed means very few half backs could attack and then go with him.

In my opinion, this would be like going after year 3 Shai Bolton at Richmond prior to him really breaking out. He averaged 14 touches in his third season and kicked 15 goals. Remembering that Wilson is as damaging per involvement as 27 year old Shai Bolton already, not 20 year old Bolton....

I know it's a big coincidence with us really wanting him as a junior, North die hard as a kid etc, but this does really scream like an advanced data trade target, that's OOC, with rule changes moving towards uncontested, damaging players that can run the arcs.

I'd totally give up a pick in the 10-20 range for him, realistically 15-20 imo. Which is what he's worth. Only a small % of players are ever worth more than where they were drafted, especially those in the second half of the first round. Him being OOC and with St Kilda splurging their cap last year, you'd think we'd have the whip hand if this progresses.

We traded our F2 for Dovaston, so it would be a wait and see to see where we were situated.

Names like Wilson or Walter would be the only types I'd be happy converting ZD into, if it came to it.

 

[chubbspeterson]

For a long while, the excuse for not signing a Cat B rookie was the lack of development resources available.

With our list-size being cut by two this year, you had to wonder if that excuse would still hold up. It looks like the club agrees it doesn't, and is finally taking the chance at a free hit.

Nostradamus did enough complaining for all of us, but it was always odd that every club has listed a Cat B rookie in the last year except us.

It's not like we weren't looking at them. We were just always at the back of the queue in them signing with us.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Think you're right he needs to be a priority target. But Larkey and Trembath are already a fantastic pair, so while adding Walter would be adding a genuinely different type of key forward, and one with a really high ceiling, it would also be investing in a part of the ground we're already relatively ok in.

By contrast, our key defender situation is below average. Yes there's Thredgold and Dawson on the horizon, but I think we need a good-to-great option to steady the ship for the next few years at least.

If you got Walter across the line, then you'd shift Whitlock down back.
But agree we should be looking to keep adding depth to our key backs, half back/wings and medium defenders.
A bit more transition two-way running through the midfield would be good to address as well.
Another gun small/medium fwd to pair with Lachie would be great, but we probably can't get it all done in one trade/draft period given we may have F/S and NGA prospects to match bids on in the next few drafts.

 

[Sphynx]

If you got Walter across the line, then you'd shift Whitlock down back.
But agree we should be looking to keep adding depth to our key backs, half back/wings and medium defenders.
A bit more transition two-way running through the midfield would be good to address as well.
Another gun small/medium fwd to pair with Lachie would be great, but we probably can't get it all done in one trade/draft period given we may have F/S and NGA prospects to match bids on in the next few drafts.

I think Thredgold is a little out of sight out of mind.

People need to remember we have invested quite a lot into KPD's at the draft, regardless of where you think Whitlock should be.

We don't have a bonafide superstar there yet, but I wouldn't say it's a key priority anymore, we need to develop what we have and then if it's an issue look for a FA or Trade target imo.

I think we should be done for key backs for now at the draft.

I'd argue Darlings replacement is much more important in the medium term. I dont think this should be at the draft either. You are going to lose Larkey in that grouping by the time they are effective.

If we do seriously move up the ladder the draft should be now filling out very specialist roles.

Speed in specialist positions - small forwards, half forwards/wings, half backs and small defenders imo.

 

[JZTIME!]

I think Thredgold is a little out of sight out of mind.

People need to remember we have invested quite a lot into KPD's at the draft, regardless of where you think Whitlock should be.

We don't have a bonafide superstar there yet, but I wouldn't say it's a key priority anymore, we need to develop what we have and then if it's an issue look for a FA or Trade target imo.

I think we should be done for key backs for now at the draft.

I'd argue Darlings replacement is much more important in the medium term. I dont think this should be at the draft either. You are going to lose Larkey in that grouping by the time they are effective.

If we do seriously move up the ladder the draft should be now filling out very specialist roles.

Speed and specialist positions - small forwards, half forwards/wings, half backs and small defenders imo.

Yep Thredgold and Dawson are going to be the two types we need. A high leaping, quick moving interceptor and a man mountain to play on the gorillas. We have got by on undersized KPP for the best part of a decade. We need to give these guys some time

 

[chubbspeterson]

But what do we actually need?

A CHF
A running back
Another Small Forward!?

It's easier to list the types we don't need
- No Rucks (Xerri Goad Trembath)
-No Mids (McKercher,LDU,FOS,Sheez,Wardlaw, Stephens)
- No Half Forwards (Zur,PC)
I reckon we're ok for
-Tall Backs (Comben, Dawson, Pink, Logue)

So yeah FF/CHF (Jedi) and HBFr (Ash) would be my choice.

Key back depth - longer term upgrades on Pink/Logue
Small and Medium defenders with athleticism/speed who can lock down and rebound
Half back distributor with elite tank/speed and kicking efficiency
Transition two-way runner(s) through the midfield/wing
Another gun small fwd to pair with Lachie (can probably hold off 12 mths with Banch/Spargo/JK)
Key fwd/ruck - Darling role replacement
Ruck - CCJ replacement

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

I would try and tempt Carlton on Weitering. First and Future first. It’s over’s but you got to get it done. Offer him good coin. Would be perfect for us the next 5 years. He is 28. He is the Beta to Choms Alpha.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I think Thredgold is a little out of sight out of mind.

People need to remember we have invested quite a lot into KPD's at the draft, regardless of where you think Whitlock should be.

We don't have a bonafide superstar there yet, but I wouldn't say it's a key priority anymore, we need to develop what we have and then if it's an issue look for a FA or Trade target imo.

I think we should be done for key backs for now at the draft.

I'd argue Darlings replacement is much more important in the medium term. I dont think this should be at the draft either. You are going to lose Larkey in that grouping by the time they are effective.

If we do seriously move up the ladder the draft should be now filling out very specialist roles.

Speed in specialist positions - small forwards, half forwards/wings, half backs and small defenders imo.

Blake is not out of sight out of mind for me. Rated him highly and wanted him since his first game for SA as I saw huge potential with him, well before anyone was even talking about him.

We have invested in kpd's at the draft, but it doesn't hurt to keep adding developing kpd's as we're eventually going to need to replace Corr/Pink/Logue. And Comben with his injury history you can't exactly bank on him.
Will Dawson, Thredgold and Comben can hopefully hold it down for us.
If we're able to get in with future picks or slide in the order to get some more selections in this draft, then any defenders should be considered (be it a kpd like Hodgson/Ladbrook etc. or medium defender like Darcy Szerzyn, Wigmore etc.) in that 20-35 pick range.

I don't care where Whitlock plays. He's a swingman, excelled at either end as a junior.
Just saying if you got Walter then Whitlock might be more likely to play in our side down back.
Who gets paired with Comben and Thredgold is likely the question.

I would agree with filling specialist roles at draft, but sometimes you have a prospect there too good to pass up.
Wing/hbf and small/medium defenders would be highest priority I would say, whether trade/FA/SSP or draft.
Adding another small fwd with elite speed (don't have that in our F50) and goal sense to pair with Lachie.
Transition two-way running mid/wings with speed/endurance another issue for us.

Have to wait and see I guess with what we can attract during trade week, as that will change draft needs.

 

[zoomba23]

I doubt he leaves, Kids getting a few regular games now and is somewhat locked into the b23 at GWS

Which is brutal, because right up until about R22 last year, he'd had **** all time in the seniors

 

[muttley45]

I doubt he leaves, Kids getting a few regular games now and is somewhat locked into the b23 at GWS

With Hogan, Stringer, Brown, and Riccardi, someone will probably have to make way for Cadman when he is back

 

[koshari]

His 2025 highlights are almost entirely free kicks. Quite strange viewing.

So off to Hawthorne?

 

[LB2Snake]

Lots to like about him, tough, courageous,
Accountable and knows how to play both lockdown and offensive roles in the back half. Another booming left footer too. Have heard that he is a tier 1 character too.

Would compliment Hardeman perfectly moving forward.

Of the highest character. Terrific kid.

 

[LB2Snake]

From everything I've seen, Wilson's an outstanding athlete but just an okay footballer.

On the wings, we have Simpkin and Stephens, who are more than fine, Scott, who is okay as depth, and of course FOS too.

Half forwards we're even more stocked in.

Sentimentality of BFNAAK aside, I think it'd be a poor use of draft picks to pay much more than a third rounder for a winger/flanker surplus to needs.

Only caveat would be if the club thinks Jy genuinely wants to leave and we can unexpectedly get overs for him.

I’d swap Jy for Darcy in a heart beat.

 

[Dinkers]

Ask her about his kicking...

You're a very rude man Michael, and I did ponder how I'd have gone if posters bagged him, oh boy nn would be back from the dead.

His kicking was far from flash, his mechanics look solid enough. Hope we get him tbh.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I’d swap Jy for Darcy in a heart beat.

Unless you mean Sam Darcy, I gotta to ask - why?

He's just as iffy at kicking as Jy, and far less hard around the contest.

 

[shinboner magic]

Let’s trade one guy that can’t kick ( Jy) for another in Wilson.

As pykie mentioned this guy has kicked bags of 5+3. Think only 2-3 guys on our list have kicked more 5 for us - so nothing to be sneezed at.

Bailey is from tas - should re-sign with lions for a couple of years then get the big deal at the devils

 

[Makeshift Park]

Bailey is from tas - should re-sign with lions for a couple of years then get the big deal at the devils

Zac Bailey? He's from Darwin via Adelaide.

 

[gerry101101]

Perhaps unpopular opinion: we have all the draftees we need (not all current playing 1s; some still to come on/in) and should now be seeking to secure almost exclusively established high end trade talent.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Perhaps unpopular opinion: we have all the draftees we need (not all current playing 1s; some still to come on/in) and should now be seeking to secure almost exclusively established high end trade talent.

There's still some work to do on the list, which is why I'd be a little hesitant to go chips in with trading multiple R1's.
I'm not sure we'll be front of the queue for high end trade talent just yet, so it might be more your Wilson, Gruzewski, Gothard and Harry Oliver types, if anything.
But generally we should be targeting talented guys who are getting squeezed out of the best 23 of other teams.

 

[shinboner magic]

Zac Bailey? He's from Darwin via Adelaide.

My bad - for some reason thought he was a Tassie boy

 

[Makeshift Park]

My bad - for some reason thought he was a Tassie boy

All good mate.
I post incorrect shit here every second day.