Past #26: Tarryn Thomas [Part III] - [C.Twomey] AFL rules TT is eligible to play in all competitions as of 14 October

[Devington]

Even if the woman went to Eddies son, he still would have had to cross check it with the AFL for accuracy.

You're giving the esteemed veteran journalist checks notes Xander Maguire (yes relation) more credit than I would.

 

[Val Keating]

You're giving the esteemed veteran journalist checks notes Xander Maguire (yes relation) more credit than I would.

Yeah I know, gross. He reported that he’d been summoned to front the AFL over the allegations, that’s just not something you go with without knowing for sure that it’s true.

 

[Passmore]

Yep redemption elsewhere, what a bitter pill that would be for us. He can get all the redemption he needs at North.

Hopefully he sorts his shit out as a North player. If not, what can you do? The Clarko bus is in overdrive and one needs to keep up. Not the other way around.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Yeah I know, gross. He reported that he’d been summoned to front the AFL over the allegations, that’s just not something you go with without knowing for sure that it’s true.

It shouldn’t have got to him in the first place is the point

All involved should be kept quiet during the investigation and only made public after if there even is any wrongdoing

Just like the clarko situation

 

[The Talent Scout]

It shouldn’t have got to him in the first place is the point

All involved should be kept quiet during the investigation and only made public after if there even is any wrongdoing

Just like the clarko situation

Well only one word comes to mind....

 

[Samsquanch]

It shouldn’t have got to him in the first place is the point

Setting aside the details of the TT case in terms of the accusation and/or the outcome, the fact that a journalist had details (which were at least in part factual) must be investigated to find the source(s) of the leak and to identify the circumstance(s) that enabled the leaker(s) to inform the journalist(s). The integrity of this case and many others have been compromised by the apparent loose lips of people involved who have to know better and who must do better.

I've worked in places where major leaks of sensitive facts have appeared regularly in newspapers to the commercial or reputational detriment of the company and in one or two cases, have been involved in tracking down the sources. Despite the damage the leakers knew would be caused they appear to have spilled the stories to the journalist not for money, but because they got a kick out of being able to demonstrate to somebody that they were "in the know" and the particular journo was giving them an emotional Tender Touch over beers in the bar around the corner from work. It should only end one way.

 

[gustaaf]

The leak had to have come from the AFL. The AFL would have contacted the complainant to give her an assurance that her complaint would be treated seriously and that it would be thoroughly investigated. Most likely she would have been invited to provide any further evidence to substantiate her allegations and also would have been told that she would be contacted if the investigative committee required further information or clarification from her. What she wouldn't have been told is when the hearing with TT would take place because in my experience complainants are never provided with details or updates of the investigative process, partly due to the right of privacy by the person against whom the complaint is made. I hope TT's lawyers are holding the AFL to account on how the detailed information found its way to the media.

The other thing I find curious is that the article states that the police dropped a charge of threatening to distribute an intimate image of another person, but also stated that the AFL will have to balance those allegations and Thomas' previous conduct with its respect and responsibility code. If the police dropped the charge then surely the AFL can't still hold the original allegation against TT as that complaint clearly lacked the veracity for the police to proceed. Surely only previous concerns that have sufficient proof can be used against TT when considering any new conduct concerns that might be in breach of the respect and responsibility code.

 

[Dan]

Imagine he goes back to her when this is over......

 

[Shermanator]

Imagine he goes back to her when this is over......

Could be worse.. Scotts picks him up for free in the off-season and he wins a flag with the *Scum-of-the-earth..

 

[The Nostradamus]

Imagine he goes back to her when this is over......

That would be so stupid

So yes I can imagine that

 

[Passmore]

Imagine he goes back to her when this is over......

Winx odds

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[The Talent Scout]

 

[Val Keating]

It shouldn’t have got to him in the first place is the point

All involved should be kept quiet during the investigation and only made public after if there even is any wrongdoing

Just like the clarko situation

100%

 

[outwecome2play]

The leak had to have come from the AFL. The AFL would have contacted the complainant to give her an assurance that her complaint would be treated seriously and that it would be thoroughly investigated. Most likely she would have been invited to provide any further evidence to substantiate her allegations and also would have been told that she would be contacted if the investigative committee required further information or clarification from her. What she wouldn't have been told is when the hearing with TT would take place because in my experience complainants are never provided with details or updates of the investigative process, partly due to the right of privacy by the person against whom the complaint is made. I hope TT's lawyers are holding the AFL to account on how the detailed information found its way to the media.

The other thing I find curious is that the article states that the police dropped a charge of threatening to distribute an intimate image of another person, but also stated that the AFL will have to balance those allegations and Thomas' previous conduct with its respect and responsibility code. If the police dropped the charge then surely the AFL can't still hold the original allegation against TT as that complaint clearly lacked the veracity for the police to proceed. Surely only previous concerns that have sufficient proof can be used against TT when considering any new conduct concerns that might be in breach of the respect and responsibility code.

When a police investigation is happening the organisation will put their investigation on hold. In some cases even though the police have found no case to answer the organisation can continue with their investigation.

 

[justroyal]

Should TT return. I wonder if we’ll see snippets of training footage like Nat Edwards has posted with Clayton Oliver

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saying ‘He’s back! Good to see.’

 

[shintemaster]

You're giving the esteemed veteran journalist checks notes Xander Maguire (yes relation) more credit than I would.

Why you gotta be all tall poppy syndrome like that?

I mean a kid grinds away for years, working their way from the bottom to the top and this is the credit they get?!

 

[sruss]

Should TT return. I wonder if we’ll see snippets of training footage like Nat Edwards has posted with Clayton Oliver saying ‘He’s back! Good to see.’

Tbf, Oliver hasn’t hurt or threatened anybody else’s safety apart from his own - different to what TT has been accused of

 

[Del191229]

I wouldn't be leaking it to the media.

So I have no idea what you are talking about re privacy.

If there's no case to answer for there's no case to answer for..... why is this a bad thing?

I'm not automatically dismissing something though as no case to answer for before listening to the issue....

What?

You think as an employer you have the right to get involved in your employees personal relationships?

You think your employees have no right to privacy.

 

[Del191229]

Well done. How about you report Brad for deciding on the ‘crumbs from the table’ NMFC draft assistance of 2023 while being both a disgruntled former employee of our club and actively in negotiations with our main rivals in *?


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Hmmm, not sure we want that when a happily gruntled ex employee just gave us a bunch of ripper picks and will be running the joint soon.

 

[Del191229]

The fact that the club have allegedly stood him down might suggest that any accusations may have at least some basis in reality, no?

No.

When the club stood Tarryn down last year, they did it formally.

There has been no formal statement here - telling me that no, they don't think this latest stuff has any basis.

Does your willingness to believe each and every anonymous accusation against an indgeinous man as spouted by racist media like the Hun and Nine make you racist?

Hmmm.

To what extent and severity is yet to be determined since we don't have any of the facts but that doesn't stop people in here going immediately to the "woman bad muh freedom of speech" whinge.

When I communicate I do it far more articulately than that, so clearly this comment is not directed at me.

For what it's worth my own first impression is that it's probably on the less severe side hence the dilly dallying about, but I won't be jumping the gun with proclamations of injustice until I know more info.

It's quite frustrating how the process is drawn out however.

On this we agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Del191229]

They're a publicity driven business where external perception is huge.

Indeed, hence this charade.

Its a bit different to a business that isn't going to be a headline on the news based on how they handle this.

Which makes Sphynx claim he'd starting poking around in his employees' private lives even more disturbing.

 

[Intothewind]

The players have their phones taken away during games, so to maximise the safety of Tarryn's ex the AFL just needs to force him to play every game.

 

[Del191229]

Yeah I know, gross. He reported that he’d been summoned to front the AFL over the allegations, that’s just not something you go with without knowing for sure that it’s true.

This is a very interesting point.

Any organisation of actual integrity, so not the AFL, would very firmly neither confirm or deny that a complaint had been laid until announcing it on their own terms.

I've been personally involved in that process many many times and very serious matters.

That said, maybe she just showed him screenshots like I posted above ...

 

[motlopfan]

Tbf, Oliver hasn’t hurt or threatened anybody else’s safety apart from his own - different to what TT has been accused of

Oliver’s driving licence was suspended after he had a seizure. He has to be medically cleared before resuming driving. Oliver was caught driving on suspended licence. This action did threaten his and others safety. A medical episode whilst driving could be shocking.

 

[Del191229]

Why you gotta be all tall poppy syndrome like that?

I mean a kid grinds away for years, working their way from the bottom to the top and this is the credit they get?!

Thank God there's institutions like Melbourne Grammar willing to take a chance on these kids.