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Past #26: Tarryn Thomas [Part III] - [C.Twomey] AFL rules TT is eligible to play in all competitions as of 14 October

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Roosurgence said:
Which brings up the question…… what is the motivation?

Is the motivation to make herself feel safe or is the motivation to ruin someone’s career?

You do the math.

I don’t know about other people, but if I felt in anyway intimidated or threatened then the police are involved.

Im not saying Thomas isn’t a dick and a pretty average human being, but I do also question what is the motive here?

It’s a slippery slope when an employer starts getting involved in something that is very much a personal matter. Are they now going to interject every time an AFL player goes through a bad breakup?

Again not defending Thomas here, but questioning the involvement of the AFL and how they have become judge, jury and executioner in a private matter between two individuals.
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100% agree and it’s pretty telling that in this era you had to state multiple times that you are not defending him.
 

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‘Would do again’: Tarryn Thomas’ shocking text messages exposed​

Damning text messages sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media in which the North Melbourne player said he had abused women and “would do again”.
Brooke Grebert-Craig

February 20, 2024 - 5:50PM

Damning texts sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media as the AFL is set to hand down sanctions to the North Melbourne player over fresh allegations of domestic violence.
A screenshot of a message, circulating on Instagram and obtained by the Herald Sun, showed Thomas speaking about abusing women.
“And for them girls I abuse I would do again,” he wrote to a woman.
“After what they did to me if you do me wrong I will let you have it.”
It comes as a source close to another woman, who was previously linked to Thomas, detailed his allegedly abusive nature.
“He harassed, stalked, abused and made threats against her,” they said.
“He made her feel worthless and small with his nasty words.”
The source said the woman was “fearful” of Thomas and isolated her from family and friends.
Thomas’ career at the Kangaroos could be over within days with the AFL expected to suspend him of up to 18 weeks.
On Monday, the AFL said its investigation into the new allegations of domestic violence was not yet resolved.
But it’s understood a suspension of that length had been raised in discussions with the AFL and North Melbourne.
Last year, Thomas escaped conviction after threatening to share an explicit video of his ex-partner Jamai Curran.
Instead, he was ordered to pay $1000 to charity.
At the time, Ms Curran told the Herald Sun that she believed Thomas never faced harsh consequences for his behaviour.
“I think he believes the way he treats women is justified because of his status and power,” she said.
“I think he believes he’s entitled to treat women however he wants.
“North Melbourne and the justice system not punishing him just reinforces it is OK because he never faces consequences.”
Ms Curran said the AFL were “letting women down” by prioritising players and their reputations.
“I think the AFL are letting women down and at this point, need to be held responsible,” she said.
“The AFL and clubs talk so much about domestic violence and taking it seriously but when push comes to shove they don’t do anything about it because it’s more important to protect players and reputations.
“It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if AFL finally matches its actions with its words.”
An 18-week suspension could give the Kangaroos cause to cut ties with Thomas.
He is in the last season of a lucrative contract, currently being paid between $600,000 to $700,000.
 
Better Loosen Up said:
You know we could come out with the message that we are committed to helping TT become a better person whilst as a footballer and for life after football rather than just kicking him to the curb to eventually be picked up by another club...

A statement like that in my mind would be consistent with a club with a strong culture.
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I would hope the club actually does do that, not for the fear of losing him for nothing to another club, but understanding that a bloke who, although a flog, has essentially been under the Roos' care since he was 16.

It's not about whether he deserves the help, it's about being the team we probably are when we tell parents at draft interviews that we'll take care of their kid.
 
the big lebowski said:
Do you deal a lot with people sending text messages to other people?
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I deal with people who are victims, and at times perpatrators, of abuse. Verbal abuse easily one of the more common varieties. Does texting not count or something?
 
My Left Foote said:
Looking very much like the 18 week ban 'leak' was the AFL testing the waters to see how the greater football world reacted, be interesting to see if they dial it back a couple of weeks or not.
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I don't think the AFL leaked it
 
Sillygit said:
I deal with people who are victims, and at times perpatrators, of abuse. Verbal abuse easily one of the more common varieties. Does texting not count or something?
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I guess a better question would be, in your rough estimation, what percentage of cases you deal with do not include

  • physical abuse
  • sexual abuse
 
Makeshift Park said:

‘Would do again’: Tarryn Thomas’ shocking text messages exposed​

Damning text messages sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media in which the North Melbourne player said he had abused women and “would do again”.
Brooke Grebert-Craig

February 20, 2024 - 5:50PM

Damning texts sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media as the AFL is set to hand down sanctions to the North Melbourne player over fresh allegations of domestic violence.
A screenshot of a message, circulating on Instagram and obtained by the Herald Sun, showed Thomas speaking about abusing women.
“And for them girls I abuse I would do again,” he wrote to a woman.
“After what they did to me if you do me wrong I will let you have it.”
It comes as a source close to another woman, who was previously linked to Thomas, detailed his allegedly abusive nature.
“He harassed, stalked, abused and made threats against her,” they said.
“He made her feel worthless and small with his nasty words.”
The source said the woman was “fearful” of Thomas and isolated her from family and friends.
Thomas’ career at the Kangaroos could be over within days with the AFL expected to suspend him of up to 18 weeks.
On Monday, the AFL said its investigation into the new allegations of domestic violence was not yet resolved.
But it’s understood a suspension of that length had been raised in discussions with the AFL and North Melbourne.
Last year, Thomas escaped conviction after threatening to share an explicit video of his ex-partner Jamai Curran.
Instead, he was ordered to pay $1000 to charity.
At the time, Ms Curran told the Herald Sun that she believed Thomas never faced harsh consequences for his behaviour.
“I think he believes the way he treats women is justified because of his status and power,” she said.
“I think he believes he’s entitled to treat women however he wants.
“North Melbourne and the justice system not punishing him just reinforces it is OK because he never faces consequences.”
Ms Curran said the AFL were “letting women down” by prioritising players and their reputations.
“I think the AFL are letting women down and at this point, need to be held responsible,” she said.
“The AFL and clubs talk so much about domestic violence and taking it seriously but when push comes to shove they don’t do anything about it because it’s more important to protect players and reputations.
“It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if AFL finally matches its actions with its words.”
An 18-week suspension could give the Kangaroos cause to cut ties with Thomas.
He is in the last season of a lucrative contract, currently being paid between $600,000 to $700,000.
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Yuck
 
Makeshift Park said:

‘Would do again’: Tarryn Thomas’ shocking text messages exposed​

Damning text messages sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media in which the North Melbourne player said he had abused women and “would do again”.
Brooke Grebert-Craig

February 20, 2024 - 5:50PM

Damning texts sent by Tarryn Thomas have emerged on social media as the AFL is set to hand down sanctions to the North Melbourne player over fresh allegations of domestic violence.
A screenshot of a message, circulating on Instagram and obtained by the Herald Sun, showed Thomas speaking about abusing women.
“And for them girls I abuse I would do again,” he wrote to a woman.
“After what they did to me if you do me wrong I will let you have it.”
It comes as a source close to another woman, who was previously linked to Thomas, detailed his allegedly abusive nature.
“He harassed, stalked, abused and made threats against her,” they said.
“He made her feel worthless and small with his nasty words.”
The source said the woman was “fearful” of Thomas and isolated her from family and friends.
Thomas’ career at the Kangaroos could be over within days with the AFL expected to suspend him of up to 18 weeks.
On Monday, the AFL said its investigation into the new allegations of domestic violence was not yet resolved.
But it’s understood a suspension of that length had been raised in discussions with the AFL and North Melbourne.
Last year, Thomas escaped conviction after threatening to share an explicit video of his ex-partner Jamai Curran.
Instead, he was ordered to pay $1000 to charity.
At the time, Ms Curran told the Herald Sun that she believed Thomas never faced harsh consequences for his behaviour.
“I think he believes the way he treats women is justified because of his status and power,” she said.
“I think he believes he’s entitled to treat women however he wants.
“North Melbourne and the justice system not punishing him just reinforces it is OK because he never faces consequences.”
Ms Curran said the AFL were “letting women down” by prioritising players and their reputations.
“I think the AFL are letting women down and at this point, need to be held responsible,” she said.
“The AFL and clubs talk so much about domestic violence and taking it seriously but when push comes to shove they don’t do anything about it because it’s more important to protect players and reputations.
“It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if AFL finally matches its actions with its words.”
An 18-week suspension could give the Kangaroos cause to cut ties with Thomas.
He is in the last season of a lucrative contract, currently being paid between $600,000 to $700,000.
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If that is his attitude he has the brain of a 10 year old. Geez . He needs serious help .
 
Sillygit said:
I deal with people who are victims, and at times perpatrators, of abuse. Verbal abuse easily one of the more common varieties. Does texting not count or something?
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From memory one of Ben Cousins jail sentences was for his relentless abusive texting of his ex while on meth
 

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the big lebowski said:
I guess a better question would be, in your rough estimation, what percentage of cases you deal with do not include

  • physical abuse
  • sexual abuse
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Hard to put a percentage to it, especially becuase often there may be a history of those two experiences, but not necessarily presenting in their current relationship. Also i dont work in crisis, where those present far higher.

But yea, very frequently when there's verbal abuse it will include text messages because it's a remote form of control. Don't even have to be in the same place as them and control can be maintained through abuse.

It's particularly awful becuase it's often paired with isolation as well. Which makes it harder for the person being abused to question it, seek support to change it, etc.

Of course, it's also one of the most easily traceable forms of verbal abuse, it's documented on both phones.
 

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Those texts are pretty off but **** me dead if this now the standard for killing careers rhe AFL is going to find itself in a real jam very soon.

Coz every girl who feels done over by a footy player she rooted is going to start screenshotting their deadshit texts
 
Sillygit said:
Hard to put a percentage to it, especially becuase often there may be a history of those two experiences, but not necessarily presenting in their current relationship. Also i dont work in crisis, where those present far higher.

But yea, very frequently when there's verbal abuse it will include text messages because it's a remote form of control. Don't even have to be in the same place as them and control can be maintained through abuse.

It's particularly awful becuase it's often paired with isolation as well. Which makes it harder for the person being abused to question it, seek support to change it, etc.

Of course, it's also one of the most easily traceable forms of verbal abuse, it's documented on both phones.
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Ok it’s hard to put a % on it.

But would you say it’s common for you to deal with victims of domestic violence that have never been physically or sexually abused by the perpetrator of the domestic violence?
 
The Warlord said:
I think we leaked it.
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I think TT's camp leaked it as a clumsy hail-mary attempt at saving face and generating outrage before the punishment was endorsed and confirmed.
 

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