Player Watch 32 Travis Cloke

[Finnishpie]

When is Keeffe allowed back to train? After pre-season or before?

 

[MagpieJoel]

Just another collingwood superstar Buckley has ruined.

Rubbish.

 

[jscan]

White has been overall better than Cloke this year.
Too say that, wow, poor old Cloke, the cliff has come.....
Shame, but it happens

Cloke's performance has been on a downward slope for a while, aside a one game revival. It's not all his fault, clearly it's also got to do with our 'game plans', 'coach' and poor basic skills from our players.

I think he could do better at another club who has players that can actually kick the ball properly + a coach who knows how to coach and form a game plan.

Although At best I see him as a 20-30 goal a year player, only at a club that actually has the above attributes.
I doubt his accuracy will get much better as well, he still has the desire to boot the ball outside the stadium when 20-30 meters from goal.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Cloke's performance has been on a downward slope for a while, aside a one game revival. It's not all his fault, clearly it's also got to do with our 'game plans', 'coach' and poor basic skills from our players.

I think he could do better at another club who has players that can actually kick the ball properly + a coach who knows how to coach and form a game plan.

Although At best I see him as a 20-30 goal a year player, only at a club that actually has the above attributes.
I doubt his accuracy will get much better as well, he still has the desire to boot the ball outside the stadium when 20-30 meters from goal.

You've convinced me.
I was wrong, I thought Cloke could use his tank, use his strength, impose himself, take lots of marks, contested marks, put on big tackles, use his long kicking. Get into the game.
Nah none of that.
Just that coaching box who instruct him to do not much just let people hang off you.
Ok

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Cloke for Michael Walters seems like a win win for both clubs

 

[TW Sherrin]

cloke will be a dog next year.

 

[Horaceg]

I still think he is not done, a fresh opportunity may be what he needs but I hope (a lot of hope) he finishes his career strongly at Collingwood.

I can't picture Trav in any other colours, mind you seeing Heater in orange was and still is shocking.

 

[slugger01]

When is Keeffe allowed back to train? After pre-season or before?

The suspension expires in February 2017. Until that time, he is not allowed to train officially, or be associated with anything official with the team.

 

[jmac70]

cloke will be a dog next year.

Which breed?

 

[CFC2010]

I was in the car and heard the Balme interview on SEN............the heading of the article below is poetic license at its best!



Collingwood
Collingwood would consider trading Travis Cloke for the right price

Jay Clark, Herald Sun
August 12, 2016 10:48am

COLLINGWOOD would consider trading Travis Cloke if a rival club proposed an advantageous trade deal, according to football manager Neil Balme.

Cloke, 29, is contracted next season but is “more upset than anyone” about being dropped to the VFL team for the third time this season, casting a dark cloud over his future at the Pies.

Balme said the Pies were happy to keep Cloke next season but would listen to rival clubs about a potential trade for the premiership spearhead.

But they won’t actively seek out a trade themselves.

“That will be totally determined by what Travis wants to do … and then it has to suit us and what we want to do,” Balme said on SEN.

“Who knows what’s going to happen and we are all open to whatever is going to happen but I guarantee you he has a contract and we are more than happy to have him because that is what we entered into four years ago.”

But he is adamant that it will only be considered if a club comes to the Magpies - not the other way around.

“No, no,” Balme declared when asked if a trade would be sought.


“We’re committed to him. He’s got a contract and we’re happy with the contract.”

Speculation has been abound that Cloke could seek out a trade at the end of the season for a fresh start, but Balme said there is plenty more to throw into the mix.

“Can he get back the form that we need to see, how far off is he? How far off does he think he is compared to what we do?,” he said.

“He has played OK, but not OK enough and not quite doing what we need. There is pressure on us to perform as a team.

media_cameraTravis Cloke has struggled all season for Collingwood. Picture: Getty Images
“We want him to play as well as he can. But if he can’t quite do it, what do we do? Is it chicken or egg? Wait for him or make a decision on it?

“It’s not personal but it’s pretty tough. It’s tough on him but it’s tough to make the decisions.”

Balme said clubs work together to make mutually beneficial deals.

“Clubs aren’t bloody-minded enough to be nasty about things. The reality is you’ve got to look after each other,” he said.


“Travis has had a wonderful time at the footy club and no one is more upset than he is about the fact that he is not playing quite as well, and he may not quite agree.

“But the reality is you don’t pick a team to pick a bad team.”

 

[Apex36]

The suspension expires in February 2017. Until that time, he is not allowed to train officially, or be associated with anything official with the team.

I thought they were allowed to return to training slightly earlier? Of course I could be completely mistaken...

 

[slugger01]

I thought they were allowed to return to training slightly earlier? Of course I could be completely mistaken...

actually, you are right.
The pair cannot return to AFL competition until February 9 2017 but can begin training with an AFL club after December 9 2016.

Cheers.

 

[jmac70]

I don't blame Cloke for being upset. He is a far better option than White who has been awful recently.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I don't blame Cloke for being upset. He is a far better option than White who has been awful recently.

Where did you hear Cloke was upset?

 

[jmac70]

Where did you hear Cloke was upset?

Balme said it apparently.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Balme said it apparently.

I listened to Balme, can't recall him saying that, unless it was the general view that "no player likes to be dropped"

 

[Anzacday]

I don't blame Cloke for being upset. He is a far better option than White who has been awful recently.

Interesting comparison, (Cloke is on the left)...

 

[The Dawes]

I was in the car and heard the Balme interview on SEN............the heading of the article below is poetic license at its best!



Collingwood
Collingwood would consider trading Travis Cloke for the right price

Jay Clark, Herald Sun
August 12, 2016 10:48am

COLLINGWOOD would consider trading Travis Cloke if a rival club proposed an advantageous trade deal, according to football manager Neil Balme.

Cloke, 29, is contracted next season but is “more upset than anyone” about being dropped to the VFL team for the third time this season, casting a dark cloud over his future at the Pies.

Balme said the Pies were happy to keep Cloke next season but would listen to rival clubs about a potential trade for the premiership spearhead.

But they won’t actively seek out a trade themselves.

“That will be totally determined by what Travis wants to do … and then it has to suit us and what we want to do,” Balme said on SEN.

“Who knows what’s going to happen and we are all open to whatever is going to happen but I guarantee you he has a contract and we are more than happy to have him because that is what we entered into four years ago.”

But he is adamant that it will only be considered if a club comes to the Magpies - not the other way around.

“No, no,” Balme declared when asked if a trade would be sought.


“We’re committed to him. He’s got a contract and we’re happy with the contract.”

Speculation has been abound that Cloke could seek out a trade at the end of the season for a fresh start, but Balme said there is plenty more to throw into the mix.

“Can he get back the form that we need to see, how far off is he? How far off does he think he is compared to what we do?,” he said.

“He has played OK, but not OK enough and not quite doing what we need. There is pressure on us to perform as a team.

media_cameraTravis Cloke has struggled all season for Collingwood. Picture: Getty Images
“We want him to play as well as he can. But if he can’t quite do it, what do we do? Is it chicken or egg? Wait for him or make a decision on it?

“It’s not personal but it’s pretty tough. It’s tough on him but it’s tough to make the decisions.”

Balme said clubs work together to make mutually beneficial deals.

“Clubs aren’t bloody-minded enough to be nasty about things. The reality is you’ve got to look after each other,” he said.


“Travis has had a wonderful time at the footy club and no one is more upset than he is about the fact that he is not playing quite as well, and he may not quite agree.

“But the reality is you don’t pick a team to pick a bad team.”

so we're open to offers on a trade?

he's gone.

 

[Anzacday]

so we're open to offers on a trade?

he's gone.

Yep and now we're open for bids.

 

[BEEG]

so we're open to offers on a trade?

he's gone.

He was gone the last time he was dropped.

 

[Old Spice]

Has the 5th year been triggered?

 

[CFC2010]

Has the 5th year been triggered?

NO........targets not achieved!

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Has the 5th year been triggered?

According to Balme he is contracted for next year

 

[MightyPies2010]

Interesting comparison, (Cloke is on the left)...
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One very important statistic is missing from this analysis......

The guy on the lefts stats cost the CFC approximately $800k , the guy on the right approximately $350k (maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less).

 

[Old Spice]

Perhaps it's a case of we can choose to keep him for a 5th year but he can't demand it.