Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[dc3]

I was giving somebody an idea of what sometimes transpires,
In no way was I trying to solve the case.
Sorry if you misunderstood.

No you are right to say which makes this even weird as it’s just barren salt bush land

Unless those dams haven’t been searched thoroughly what’s the most likely to have happened?

Accident that’s been covered up
Foul play
Abducted
Trafficked

 

[Sqotty from office works]

No you are right to say which makes this even weird as it’s just barren salt bush land

Unless those dams haven’t been searched thoroughly what’s the most likely to have happened?

Accident that’s been covered up
Foul play
Abducted
Trafficked

Walking off and getting bitten by a snake?
Little kids unfortunately are so easily not seen.

I would also be interested in the local backtracking Koori and would 1st like to hear his take on the tracks, direction, weather and distances involved. Especially towards house and shedding.

 

[dc3]

Walking off and getting bitten by a snake?
Little kids unfortunately are so easily not seen.

I would also be interested in the local backtracking Koori and would 1st like to hear his take on the tracks, direction, weather and distances involved. Especially towards house and shedding.

You are forgetting all these things like bitten can be eliminated due to no evidence at all in an area 500 square kilometers

 

[31550]

I’m not sure if police have stated when they were called but they’ve stated that Grandma has told them that she went out to call Gus in around 5.30pm.

Police began searching the 60,000ha property shortly after Gus disappeared at about 5pm on September 27.

Despicable conspiracy theory about Gus, 4, is slammed

August 'Gus' Lamont was last seen playing in a mound of dirt near his grandparents' homestead on a sheep station 40km south of Yunta last Saturday, September 27.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Sqotty from office works]

You are forgetting all these things like bitten can be eliminated due to no evidence at all in an area 500 square kilometers

William Callaghan 14yo autistic non verbal boy missing on Mt disappointment was located after 2 days of looking by police and ses.
Callaghan was found within 200 metres of a packed car park full of police.

I've got others.
Don't presuppose.

 

[dc3]

William Callaghan 14yo autistic non verbal boy missing on Mt disappointment was located after 2 days of looking by police and ses.
Callaghan was found within 200 metres of a packed car park full of police.

I've got others.
Don't presuppose.

No you mentioned a snake bite
Which can be ruled out , no body, no tracks = no evidence

So given no body, no tracks, no evidence gathered by trackers, helicopters and 7 days of searching

Brings us back to Whats the most likely to have happened ?

 

[Underarrest_]

Police began searching the 60,000ha property shortly after Gus disappeared at about 5pm on September 27.

Despicable conspiracy theory about Gus, 4, is slammed

August 'Gus' Lamont was last seen playing in a mound of dirt near his grandparents' homestead on a sheep station 40km south of Yunta last Saturday, September 27.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I’m not sure, the officer in the video on the link says Grandma came out about 5.30pm to call Gus in.

 

[31550]

I’m not sure, the officer in the video on the link says Grandma came out about 5.30pm to call Gus in.

Just quoting what the DM article says. Can't find any official source for anything concerning the verified timeline.

 

[Underarrest_]

Walking off and getting bitten by a snake?
Little kids unfortunately are so easily not seen.

I would also be interested in the local backtracking Koori and would 1st like to hear his take on the tracks, direction, weather and distances involved. Especially towards house and shedding.

Would it have been harder for him, at least tracks, after searchers went over the property?

 

[latinoheat]

Just quoting what the DM article says. Can't find any official source for anything concerning the verified timeline.

I read somewhere that they called police after 3 hours of the family searching themselves

 

[Percel]

The fact given the station is that remote and that all they have found is 1 foot print

As someone just said , given all of this then foul play is likely the most possible outcome and given there is no people for miles you’d have to think someone in the family circle knows more then they are letting on

What else did they find?

 

[Kurve]

I think wombat holes has been
Ruled out as there aren’t any

He's wearing bush colours, grey and blue. That's going to make it even harder to spot him out there.

 

[DemurePrincess]

So the guy who helped the father search day and night, has 20 years experience in SES searches and knows the land has ruled out conspiracies of a wedge tail eagle picking up the child. No wild dogs, wild pigs or foxes in the area - has said it’s been searched and he’s just not there….. then where is the child?

 

[DemurePrincess]

He's wearing bush colours, grey and blue. That's going to make it even harder to spot him out there.

Grey maybe - sure but blue would stand out against the brown of the land. From video footage there is nothing out there bar salt bushes and crevices. It’s not like you’re dealing with thick scrub or tall trees. Surely from above you’d have a decent view of what’s below

 

[shorsky]

So true, makes you wonder how some coexist with others day to day.

As you said Percel ‘when there’s nothing else to go on’. .. I don’t think people mean to be cruel, for the most part people are just trying to ‘fathom’.

I’m sure all the suggested scenarios have been examined by the Police ( not much use as investigators if not !)

The issue arises when said comments are Public, and reach the ears of those who are grieving. I think it important that we recognise the ‘scope’ of stuff these days - were not just sitting around a secluded table sharing thoughts with friends ( even though it often seems that way )

I’m interested in your thoughts re this terribly sad situation. I grew up in a remote location (also sheep) with a home ‘settlement’ of 2 houses, various sheds, yards etc.
There was a reasonably long drive from house to high boundary gate (I’m hopeless with distance, but it’d be close to 2 blocks I think) and then a dirt road went L & R for miles !
We kids learnt by correspondence, and in free time would go off with our stick horses & roam the home paddock (never near the dam as that was banned ) Oh the memories !

Apologies for the ramblings. I guess they started due to my concern for & confusion over what has happened to young Gus. .. more so because he is said to be a ‘bush kid’ .

But is he really ?

Grandma noticed him missing.
Dad apparently built the local community centre or something (according to a lady who has asked everyone to lay off their comments because her family & Gus’s go back 5 generations as neighbours) and he was out searching with old mate, who’s adamant that Gus is not on the property ? ?

 

[shorsky]

IMO a 4 yo would walk away from buildings/roads etc if they were exploring etc. probably already seen everything there is to see at home… also could he possibly be neurodiverse, then anything classed as normal behaviour is out the window. He may have become hyper focused and walked a long long way on a mission, not turning back or even being concerned he was lost…

I agree Shonnie, kids can easily ‘go on a mission’, follow an animal etc.

However it’s the time of day that has me wondering. As a bush kids I would think he would’ve noticed it starting to get dark and been expecting to go inside pretty soon & get cleaned up for dinner.

I keep wondering if he was expecting someone to arrive, so went to look for them .
If he did that, he would have followed the road off the property - did they say 6 gates ? A little kid like him will have slipped through the wires / panels whatever.

IMO.

 

[shorsky]

Police began searching the 60,000ha property shortly after Gus disappeared at about 5pm on September 27.

Despicable conspiracy theory about Gus, 4, is slammed

August 'Gus' Lamont was last seen playing in a mound of dirt near his grandparents' homestead on a sheep station 40km south of Yunta last Saturday, September 27.

www.dailymail.co.uk

According to many reports, Gus was last seen by his grandmother around 5 pm playing in the dirt pile. When she came out again at around 5.30pm he was gone. Family searched for sometime, then called Police - who arrived ‘around 9 pm’ ( varying reports of time from 8.30 - 9.30) * note that in remote areas it will take Police some time to get there from their more built-up area (especially on a Sat night when the hoons come out to play )

It’s also important to remember that searching rural areas with so many out buildings takes time ( to the people who say they will have called police after 20 mins )

There is a huge difference between city living & rural - more so remote rural. In some respects that makes this so much more baffling, imo.

Losing a child is the most unbearable, unexplainable & unfathomable pain. My heart breaks for his family and I hope they can get much needed answers very soon.

 

[Shonnie]

I agree Shonnie, kids can easily ‘go on a mission’, follow an animal etc.

However it’s the time of day that has me wondering. As a bush kids I would think he would’ve noticed it starting to get dark and been expecting to go inside pretty soon & get cleaned up for dinner.

I keep wondering if he was expecting someone to arrive, so went to look for them .
If he did that, he would have followed the road off the property - did they say 6 gates ? A little kid like him will have slipped through the wires / panels whatever.

IMO.

At 4 yo I doubt he would have any concept of time or notice the time of day. Well not any 4 yo I know, nor do I know any child that is thrilled about coming in for a bath and dinner, if they did notice. Regardless, I’ve checked the sunset time in that area which is approx 7:15pm so it’s highly unlikely it was even starting to look like it was getting dark.
In saying this it also makes it more reasonable about the delay before calling police as it was daylight.
If they expected they were going to find him it probably took a good minute to make the huge decision to involve police as they would asking them to helicopter in… I don’t think you would make that lightly. In hindsight sight yes, call asap but in the moment they had quite a bit to cover just with the homestead.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

He's wearing bush colours, grey and blue. That's going to make it even harder to spot him out there.

Just saw an overview of the property on the news.
It's partially covered by 2 foot high scrub and there's no way every bush has been looked under as it would take weeks.
As I stated earlier, you would be amazed where a 4 yo can fit.
People saying the property was searched are half right, it's been walked over by searchers and now a thorough search needs to be done.

 

[31550]

According to many reports, Gus was last seen by his grandmother around 5 pm playing in the dirt pile. When she came out again at around 5.30pm he was gone. Family searched for sometime, then called Police - who arrived ‘around 9 pm’ ( varying reports of time from 8.30 - 9.30) * note that in remote areas it will take Police some time to get there from their more built-up area (especially on a Sat night when the hoons come out to play )

I still haven't seen any 'official' report of the timeline, but if the above is correct then police search activities would not have commenced until it was pretty dark, so only a limited area could have been covered until daylight. This means Gus was missing (and potentially wandering) for at least several hours before anyone could properly search. If he wandered for say, two hours between 5pm and sunset (7pm), would he have gotten so far way he couldn't see the lights of the homestead and police lights searching for him? By that time he may have been exhausted, or possibly injured. Would he have continued to wander in the darkness away from lights and searchers? I don't think so. So by morning, he shouldn't have been too far away from the homestead. An aerial search next morning or infrared search that night should have located him IMO.

There is no rational explanation for why he hasn't been found if he was last seen at 5pm in the sandpit IMO.

 

[DemurePrincess]

I’d be interested to know when was the last time he was seen by someone other than his family prior to reports of him missing?

 

[31550]

I’d be interested to know when was the last time he was seen by someone other than his family prior to reports of him missing?

In that location it might be days or even weeks before the disappearance, so I don't think that's relevant.
I'd be more interested in whether there is any CCTV which may have captured vehicles entering or leaving the property.
Also whether there are any potential 'dodgy' characters who may be connected to (perhaps even identified by) the immediate family.

There is absolutely no reason to cast shade at the immediate family, (not suggesting you were doing that, but others may have). I am still wondering why we haven't seen a public appeal from a family member to assist with the search, especially now that police have officially stopped searching. But they are absolutely entitled to their privacy, and they may have very good reasons for remaining private. At this stage it's unlikely to help poor Gus anyway.

 

[dc3]

So the guy who helped the father search day and night, has 20 years experience in SES searches and knows the land has ruled out conspiracies of a wedge tail eagle picking up the child. No wild dogs, wild pigs or foxes in the area - has said it’s been searched and he’s just not there….. then where is the child?

Yep spot on

As someone else said we are not trying to be cruel it’s just hard to fathom

If he is under some salt bush etc then how come there is no evidence of him at all ? Helicopters , ses line walks, motorbikes, locals with knowledge, indigenous trackers , cadever dogs etc

If he’s not on the property and there are 6 gates to the main road what is the likeliest scenario here ?

 

[DemurePrincess]

I just find it odd that a child would continue to wander once it got dark especially with autism. So if a chopper was in the air within hours of little Gus being reported missing and I’m assuming thermal imaging would have been used then at this point, he would still be alive and able to be tracked unless he was hurt badly and succumbed to those injuries. But then the ground searchers would have found his body but haven’t.

So I would assume he would of been pin pointed if he was still on the property bc even it was many hours… I’m not sure how far a 4 yo child would actually continuing travelling in the dark unless totally dis-oriented, he would have been scared and hungry/thirsty at this point so would surely have stopped. Plus the family stated he’d never done this before even though he’s adventurous so why now?

Makes me think he isn’t on the property at all . And I’m definitely not trying to be negative but it’s now 9 days…. Someone knows where he is? Either that being family or someone else

 

[Kurve]

So the guy who helped the father search day and night, has 20 years experience in SES searches and knows the land has ruled out conspiracies of a wedge tail eagle picking up the child. No wild dogs, wild pigs or foxes in the area - has said it’s been searched and he’s just not there….. then where is the child?

This might sound a bit off but if he's died and there's wedgetails out there, they will hang about the body. Rescuers are likely to see swooping and gathering around it. Same with crows.

I've seen wedgetails doing this in central north Queensland on roadkill, there one day when I've gone past and still there the next. I haven't seen them flying off with anything, if that doesn't mean they don't or they can't.