Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[CodyRose]

It’s a very remote area, appealing to the public isn’t really a consideration I wouldn’t have thought unless there was real evidence of an abduction.

Maybe the other child would be safer in town when they get as mobile as Gus.

 

[CodyRose]

Yes the silence on this is deafening. Cops are digging now imo.

A missing child is everyone's business regardless of how private families want to be.

 

[maggiethecat]

A missing child is everyone's business regardless of how private families want to be.

Exactly.. think about Fred and rosemary West

 

[Percel]

A missing child is everyone's business regardless of how private families want to be.

Define “everyone’s business”

Is that in regards to sharing of information?

 

[CodyRose]

Define “everyone’s business”

Is that in regards to sharing of information?

Yes, if someone knows something even go to crime stoppers anonymously. They shouldn't let a concern slide, thinking that if it was important someone else would have brought it up. Even one jigsaw piece can alter the perception of a puzzle. The SA police also encouraged members of the public with factual concerns (real facts , not opinions) to contact them directly or through crime stoppers. So sharing is the best course of action. Children's safely is everyone's business. I hope no-one is holding information waiting for a reward offer. I've read that sometimes happens.

 

[Percel]

Yes, if someone knows something even go to crime stoppers anonymously. They shouldn't let a concern slide, thinking that if it was important someone else would have brought it up. Even one jigsaw piece can alter the perception of a puzzle. The SA police also encouraged members of the public with factual concerns (real facts , not opinions) to contact them directly or through crime stoppers. So sharing is the best course of action. Children's safely is everyone's business. I hope no-one is holding information waiting for a reward offer. I've read that sometimes happens.

I imagine anyone who had information would have, it’s the very nature of people. As well as the investigative team who are working through many scenarios to understand what happened.

I have no issues not knowing details through a collect and investigation, as it’s not my patch, you just have to trust the process.

And this is not a Tyrell or West case. Not now.

 

[31550]

And this is not a Tyrell or West case. Not now.

What's the difference, and when does it become one?

 

[CodyRose]

What's the difference, and when does it become one?

IMO there is a dearth of information available about the players (people around e.g. family, workers, friends, helpers) in Gus's case. In the William Tyrrell case we had a lot more information about lots of people. There is no evidence of anything except he's nowhere to be found. Radio silence everywhere. Going to take a break for a week! Happy sleuthing.

 

[31550]

IMO there is a dearth of information available about the players (people around e.g. family, workers, friends, helpers) in Gus's case. In the William Tyrrell case we had a lot more information about lots of people. There is no evidence of anything except he's nowhere to be found. Radio silence everywhere. Going to take a break for a week! Happy sleuthing.

Zero factual evidence in either case IMO.

 

[dc3]

Zero factual evidence in either case IMO.

All quiet on the western front , seems everyone has lost the appetite

 

[31550]

All quiet on the western front , seems everyone has lost the appetite

Sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.

 

[Underarrest_]

All quiet on the western front , seems everyone has lost the appetite

Still waiting/hoping for some new information and hoping they can find Gus.

 

[Kurve]

I will let my brother know that he's got 3 to many gates

Show him these.

 

[31550]

Some snippets of information coming through in this article:

GUS LAMONT SEARCH: Indigenous tracker and former detective share theories

As SA Police continue investigating the disappearance of Gus Lamont, experts are sharing their thoughts on the case.

www.nowtolove.com.au

Gus was last seen playing on a dirt mount near the house on the evening of September 27 by his grandmother Shannon.​

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At the time she was also watching Gus’s little brother Ronnie, one, while Gus’s mother and other grandparent tended to their sheep about ten kilometres away.​

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Shannon realised Gus was missing thirty minutes later and the family began frantically searching the 60,000-hectare property for three hours before reporting him missing to the police.​

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I hadn't read about the mother and other grandparent being 10km away before.

Of course, this is all still narrative, not proven fact.

 

[FR0GGY]

Some snippets of information coming through in this article:

GUS LAMONT SEARCH: Indigenous tracker and former detective share theories

As SA Police continue investigating the disappearance of Gus Lamont, experts are sharing their thoughts on the case.

www.nowtolove.com.au

Gus was last seen playing on a dirt mount near the house on the evening of September 27 by his grandmother Shannon.​

​

At the time she was also watching Gus’s little brother Ronnie, one, while Gus’s mother and other grandparent tended to their sheep about ten kilometres away.​

​

Shannon realised Gus was missing thirty minutes later and the family began frantically searching the 60,000-hectare property for three hours before reporting him missing to the police.​

​

I hadn't read about the mother and other grandparent being 10km away before.

Of course, this is all still narrative, not proven fact.

Yeah I posted this awhile ago from an article I read.
Could be suspicious or it could be the reason why he’s gone missing with no one watching him directly.

 

[dc3]

Yeah I posted this awhile ago from an article I read.
Could be suspicious or it could be the reason why he’s gone missing with no one watching him directly.

Yep as stated by a few it’s the public interest when child goes missing

More toddler last week being found by polair in neighbours pool….but when Happens in the suburbs if acted on soon real high chance to find (dead/alive)

When a child goes missing on a remote station and there is zero sign of life it’s almost unprecedented or explained

Someone knows something …

 

[Underarrest_]

I’m still trying to work out where the gates are.
Is there only one gate leading into the property off a road that’s shared with other station owners and how far is it from the homestead to the road?

 

[Underarrest_]

I’m still trying to work out where the gates are.
Is there only one gate leading into the property off a road that’s shared with other station owners and how far is it from the homestead to the road?

All I can work out is that from Yunta the main way to the station would be to go down the Barrier Highway turn onto Sturtvale Rd then onto Oakpark road. I think. Is there other back roads to/from the highway or in between properties?

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Some snippets of information coming through in this article:

GUS LAMONT SEARCH: Indigenous tracker and former detective share theories

As SA Police continue investigating the disappearance of Gus Lamont, experts are sharing their thoughts on the case.

www.nowtolove.com.au

Gus was last seen playing on a dirt mount near the house on the evening of September 27 by his grandmother Shannon.​

​

At the time she was also watching Gus’s little brother Ronnie, one, while Gus’s mother and other grandparent tended to their sheep about ten kilometres away.​

​

Shannon realised Gus was missing thirty minutes later and the family began frantically searching the 60,000-hectare property for three hours before reporting him missing to the police.​

​

I hadn't read about the mother and other grandparent being 10km away before.

Of course, this is all still narrative, not proven fact.

Hmm, 'The Family began searching'.
So Grandma Shannon is home with a 1yo and a 4yo.
The 4yo is out playing in the dirt for 30 minutes before being noticed missing.
Mum and a 2nd Grandparent are 10km away tending sheep.

This all takes place around 5pm pre daylight savings time, so dusk is approaching.

At this point, Grandma Shannon wouldn't be considering that Gus would still be missing a month later, so I imagine she goes looking close by initially by herself. You wouldn't be calling people back from 10km away initially as Gus may be close by.

So I wonder wether they were summonsed back after a failed initial search or did they arrive back during the initial search by Grandma Shannon?

How long after Gus was discovered missing did the 'Family' which I assume includes Mum and Grandparent 2, actually start searching?

 

[passball]

Hmm, 'The Family began searching'.
So Grandma Shannon is home with a 1yo and a 4yo.
The 4yo is out playing in the dirt for 30 minutes before being noticed missing.
Mum and a 2nd Grandparent are 10km away tending sheep.

This all takes place around 5pm pre daylight savings time, so dusk is approaching.

At this point, Grandma Shannon wouldn't be considering that Gus would still be missing a month later, so I imagine she goes looking close by initially by herself. You would be calling people back from 10km away initially as Gus may be close by.

So I wonder wether they were summonsed back after a failed initial search or did they arrive back during the initial search by Grandma Shannon?

How long after Gus was discovered missing did the 'Family' which I assume includes Mum and Grandparent 2, actually start searching?

If Grandma Shannon went to call Gus in for dinner at 5.30 would that mean Grandma Josie and Gus's mum would have been on their way home for dinner at 5.30?
Could their story be true but didnt happen the day the police were called?
When was the last time anyone other than the family saw Gus?
When did his dad last see him?
When was the last time his dad spoke to him?

Going to ask the same questions that were asked about William Tyrrell (im basically waiting for the day the coroner comes back on William's case)

Why would there be a cover up with Gus's disappearance. What do they have to lose for there to be a cover up?
Who would they cover for?
Where is the mum in all of this?

Are the police looking in to other scenarios or are we assuming they are?
I could be a little bit worried because this is in South Australia and there is a track record of missing kids in the state, historically

 

[Cataholic]

Hmm, 'The Family began searching'.
So Grandma Shannon is home with a 1yo and a 4yo.
The 4yo is out playing in the dirt for 30 minutes before being noticed missing.
Mum and a 2nd Grandparent are 10km away tending sheep.

This all takes place around 5pm pre daylight savings time, so dusk is approaching.

At this point, Grandma Shannon wouldn't be considering that Gus would still be missing a month later, so I imagine she goes looking close by initially by herself. You would be calling people back from 10km away initially as Gus may be close by.

So I wonder wether they were summonsed back after a failed initial search or did they arrive back during the initial search by Grandma Shannon?

How long after Gus was discovered missing did the 'Family' which I assume includes Mum and Grandparent 2, actually start searching?

I wonder how old / mobile / agile GM Shannon is, how acute her eyesight is, and in particular, her hearing?

How far away from Gus was she whilst she monitored Ronnie?

Did mum and GP No. 2 use the main access in / out of the property, and if so, how did they not see / hear any intruder, or were they out in the paddocks well away from the access road?

Did they use that road to return, or did they return cross country?

I'm thinking an intruder wouldn't have stopped to close the gates as they fled because time would've been of the essence to them, and if so, you'd think mum and GP No. 2 would've found the open gates and been troubled.....if they returned via that route.

 

[Lady O]

I wonder how old / mobile / agile GM Shannon is, how acute her eyesight is, and in particular, her hearing?

How far away from Gus was she whilst she monitored Ronnie?

Did mum and GP No. 2 use the main access in / out of the property, and if so, how did they not see / hear any intruder, or were they out in the paddocks well away from the access road?

Did they use that road to return, or did they return cross country?

I'm thinking an intruder wouldn't have stopped to close the gates as they fled because time would've been of the essence to them, and if so, you'd think mum and GP No. 2 would've found the open gates and been troubled.....if they returned via that route.

Are they actual gates or grids and gates (ie grids for vehicles)?

 

[Underarrest_]

I don’t know if abduction is possible but Oak Park is a huge station.
Could there be broken fencing and ways to enter the property on a bike.
I saw some footage of fences being checked. Some of the surrounding stations seem busy, some with visitors going to the properties and bikes are often used to tend to the sheep.

 

[Cataholic]

Are they actual gates or grids and gates (ie grids for vehicles)?

Good question.

 

[Jim Cricket]

Given how quiet it would be on that station in the middle of nowhere I'd be surprised if a vehicle could enter the property and not be heard or noticed. I wonder how good or bad the grandmother's hearing is? Even if it's poor someone would probably need to know this before driving up and taking a child and they'd also need to know the other adults weren't there.